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milanistar
Now he's eledted I only hope Milan will stop all that b/s about suspicious transfers and other scandals, cause with this guy in charge (and his Milan hate) we'll have no benefit of a doubt!
han2503
He batter not change the rules to only 3 clubs from Italy England and Spain because now we would have to fight for third place mad.gif
milanistar
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 26 2007, 02:19 PM)
He batter not change the rules to only 3 clubs from Italy England and Spain because now we would have to fight for third place  mad.gif
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I think with la Juve coming back in Serie A, he'll give them a coupls of years to get in top again laugh.gif
Anyway, even if he does that, it will be applied in the next season!

But I'm more worried about all the disciplinary things, I mean he's the one who said "Milan has nothing to do in CL" because we were convicted in the Calciopoli scandal!
dst
I just hope he doesn't harm Milan in any way...
misha
We need a former Milan player there and not former Juve player smile.gif
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 26 2007, 09:19 AM)
He batter not change the rules to only 3 clubs from Italy England and Spain because now we would have to fight for third place  mad.gif
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i'm pretty sure he cant change the rules midway thru the season, so if changes were to be made it would be for next season. and if the future milan cant at least make 3rd place then we dont deserve to be called milan!
bigmacmtl
anyways i really dint wanna see platini win this, seeing as he is Blatter's puppet.
dst
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jan 26 2007, 06:41 PM)
i'm pretty sure he cant change the rules midway thru the season, so if changes were to be made it would be for next season. and if the future milan cant at least make 3rd place then we dont deserve to be called milan!
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we were left out of the CL twice in the 90's and surprisingly enough we're still called Milan... rolleyes.gif
milanistar
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 26 2007, 07:35 PM)
we were left out of the CL twice in the 90's and surprisingly enough we're still called Milan...  rolleyes.gif
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What's that supposed to mean huh.gif
dst
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 26 2007, 09:50 PM)
What's that supposed to mean huh.gif
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I don't know... what does this mean:

QUOTE (bigmacmtl)
and if the future milan cant at least make 3rd place then we dont deserve to be called milan!
milanistar
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 26 2007, 08:05 PM)
I don't know... what does this mean:

QUOTE (bigmacmtl)
and if the future milan cant at least make 3rd place then we dont deserve to be called milan!

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Ok, when I read that first I understood something like "we don't deserve to be in the CL if we dont make 3rd place"

I was in Platini mode tongue.gif he always says things like " if you can't beat this team you have nothing to do in that competition" laugh.gif
dst
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 26 2007, 10:10 PM)
I was in Platini mode tongue.gif he always says things like " if you can't beat this team you have nothing to do in that competition" laugh.gif
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I hate that French!! mad.gif

How big is he in your country??
milanistar
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 26 2007, 08:13 PM)
I hate that French!!  mad.gif

How big is he in your country??
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He has a big influence, when he says something it's like the whole media is behind him sad.gif

I dont like him too, basically because he hates Milan and it's so obvious, do you know how he used to call Sheva?

Chachenko dry.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jan 26 2007, 05:42 PM)
anyways i really dint wanna see platini win this, seeing as he is Blatter's puppet.
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Exactly. Blatter + Platini, the worst thing ever.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 27 2007, 02:29 AM)
Exactly. Blatter + Platini, the worst thing ever.
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Nah I think they r a level up from Inter biggrin.gif
dst
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 26 2007, 10:35 PM)
Chachenko dry.gif
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and what does that mean??

I love it that he hates us... wink.gif
LaPalma
Am I really the only one who prefers Platini to that old jerk Johannson? That he wants to change the qualification rules for the CL is a good idea, cause it's the CHAMPIONS League and not the Inter League for teams that placed second. I think he shows a lot of courage changing the structure of European Football (which is absolutely necessary I think). Football is a game and not a busniness. I know it's a also a huge business, but it's only a huge business because people like the game. Platini understood that, Johansson obviously not.
It's also obvious to me that Platini is the worst nightmare for that stupi @ss Blatter. Johansson was just looking at Blatter and said "Ok....as long as we earn money..." I really hope Platini will make a difference.

Anyway...they should have elected Franz Beckenbauer....no one can hate Franz Beckenbauer tongue.gif
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 26 2007, 03:05 PM)
I don't know... what does this mean:

QUOTE (bigmacmtl)
and if the future milan cant at least make 3rd place then we dont deserve to be called milan!

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I mean generally making 3rd place and above isnt tough for milan and we can at least aim for that. so his decision to have 3 teams in the top leagues play in CL shouldnt effect us and if it does it means future milan squad arent maintaining that excellency and shouldnt be considered true milanista.(of course i ment that in a figurative sense)
dst
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jan 27 2007, 06:06 AM)
I mean generally making 3rd place and above isnt tough for milan and we can at least aim for that.
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Yes I understood what you meant but we (including me of course) shouldn't overreact...
milanistar
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 27 2007, 12:40 AM)
and what does that mean??
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It's not supposed to mean anything, he's just deforming his name!

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jan 27 2007, 01:34 AM)
Am I really the only one who prefers Platini to that old jerk Johannson? That he wants to change the qualification rules for the CL is a good idea, cause it's the CHAMPIONS League and not the Inter League for teams that placed second. I think he shows a lot of courage changing the structure of European Football (which is absolutely necessary I think). Football is a game and not a busniness. I know it's a also a huge business, but it's only a huge business because people like the game. Platini understood that, Johansson obviously not.
It's also obvious to me that Platini is the worst nightmare for that stupi @ss Blatter. Johansson was just looking at Blatter and said "Ok....as long as we earn money..." I really hope Platini will make a difference.

Anyway...they should have elected Franz Beckenbauer....no one can hate Franz Beckenbauer tongue.gif
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I just dont like the guy because he hates us, but it's clear that he wants to change the rules to give more chance to the "smaller" teams, which in a certain way is not bad at all!
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 27 2007, 06:37 PM)
It's not supposed to mean anything, he's just deforming his name!
I just dont like the guy because he hates us, but it's clear that he wants to change the rules to give more chance to the "smaller" teams, which in a certain way is not bad at all!
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I don't know .. I'm rather pessemistic about Platini huh.gif I have this gut feeling that we will suffer in Europe
dst
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 27 2007, 05:37 PM)
It's not supposed to mean anything, he's just deforming his name!
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Oh... but even so it is disgusting... but I so love it that he's jealous of everything red&black!! biggrin.gif
dst
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 27 2007, 05:46 PM)
I don't know .. I'm rather pessemistic about Platini  huh.gif I have this gut feeling that we will suffer in Europe
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Well I really don't think he can or will do anything to harm Milan... but maybe Giuve will win the CL for a change! rolleyes.gif
HasanHasanly
The fact that he is a Juve player cheers me up. Even if we suffer, we suffer with inter smile.gif
milanistar
QUOTE (HasanHasanly @ Jan 27 2007, 04:30 PM)
The fact that he is a Juve player cheers me up. Even if we suffer, we suffer with inter smile.gif
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ohmy.gif huh.gif
HasanHasanly
@milanistar

i just wanna see inter suffer immediately, not in 5 years biggrin.gif
milanistar
QUOTE (HasanHasanly @ Jan 27 2007, 04:35 PM)
@milanistar

i just wanna see inter suffer immediately, not in 5 years biggrin.gif
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Yeah, but why should we do the same? huh.gif
HasanHasanly
Its inevitable (with platini of course) wink.gif
LaPalma
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 27 2007, 05:26 PM)
Well I really don't think he can or will do anything to harm Milan... but maybe Giuve will win the CL for a change!  rolleyes.gif
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I really think Platini is has enough of a professional not to give any advantages to Juve. He's the UEFA President now, and not a Juve official. I know for some people it doesn't matter, but I have high hopes for Platini.
Johannson was an old man, 77 years old, it was the time for a change. It's that simple.
HasanHasanly
"There is not only politics, business, violence, hooliganism and corruption in football. There are also very nice things in football, and I belong to those people who defend these things. Football is also a game, we should not forget that." from uefa.com

sounds optimistic :|
dst
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jan 27 2007, 06:50 PM)
I really think Platini is has enough of a professional not to give any advantages to Juve.
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He already said something about Agnelli which I didn't take the time to read...

QUOTE (HasanHasanly @ Jan 27 2007, 06:54 PM)
sounds optimistic :|
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sounds fake and "plastic" too...
HasanHasanly
@dst

some hope, at least...
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 27 2007, 07:26 PM)
Well I really don't think he can or will do anything to harm Milan... but maybe Giuve will win the CL for a change!  rolleyes.gif
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harm us !!! ohmy.gif we'll have to see
misha
Platini confirms Champions League to be overhauled

PARIS (AFP) - Newly-elected UEFA chief Michel Platini confirmed he intends to reduce the number of clubs that England, Spain and Italy are allowed to qualify for the Champions League.

Platini beat incumbent chief Lennart Johansson to take over the presidency of European football´s ruling body on Friday.

The 51-year-old Frenchman said his proposal was only "a minor" part of his overall project as head of UEFA over the next four years.

However, Platini has effectively confirmed the fears emanating from England, Spain and Italy by saying that of 2009 he hopes to allow only the top three finishers from the domestic league in England, Spain and Italy to qualify for Europe´s premier club competition.

"We need a re-balancing between the countries with big clubs and the clubs in other (UEFA) countries," Platini said.

"England, Spain and Italy are currently allowed to qualify two plus two (two for direct qualification, two for the third preliminary round) but I´m proposing that three clubs be qualified directly for the competition, starting in 2009."

Platini´s plan will likely anger the likes of Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson and German legend Franz Beckenbauer, now a top official with Bayern Munich and who openly opposed the Frenchman´s bid for the presidency.

Ferguson said after Platini was voted in: "The Champions League has been good.

"If you take away the fourth place teams, the only way to address that is by reducing the competition or by giving other countries two places.

"But the appeal of the Champions League is when the giants of Spain or Italy or England come up against each other."

Platini however said the Champions League was only a small part of his wider ambitions.

And he suggested his detractors should concentrate on qualifying for the competition by finishing third in their respective leagues.

"There are many more important issues to focus on than who is going to be the fourth team in 2009," he added.

"They should just concentrate on finishing third."

During his campaign Platini was branded a "social romantic" by the German federation president, Theo Zwanziger.

However, the Frenchman said the issue of "solidarity" would remain a constant during his tenure.

"Today we give a lot of money to the smaller federations. But it´s not always a question of money," said the former France and Juventus legend.

"Why don´t we, for example, invite coaches from countries like Georgia to come and reap the benefits of the French national training centre for two weeks ... all at the expense of UEFA?"

Platini said he had already brushed off criticism of his plans from England and Germany.

"The important thing is to work for the greater good of football."

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han2503
If he does this I wouldn't be surprised to see the G14 clubs would unite and compete in that Super league they have been talking about
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 29 2007, 03:53 PM)
If he does this I wouldn't be surprised to see the G14 clubs would unite and compete in that Super league they have been talking about
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Hah ... That would be sweet !!!!!!!!
LaPalma
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 29 2007, 01:53 PM)
If he does this I wouldn't be surprised to see the G14 clubs would unite and compete in that Super league they have been talking about
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Nah...I don't think so. No G14 club really wants that league, they just use it to blackmail the UEFA. A few weeks ago Bayern even considered to leave the G14.
And to be honest, I really don't want to see that league.
han2503
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jan 29 2007, 03:02 PM)
Nah...I don't think so. No G14 club really wants that league, they just use it to blackmail the UEFA. A few weeks ago Bayern even considered to leave the G14.
And to be honest, I really don't want to see that league.
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They have nothing to lose and everything to gain if this where to happen. Think of the money they would get from the TV rights alone.

And I would prefer the CL to stay the same, this might sound bad but I would rather see the CL have 4 big teams from the big leagues rather then having those 4 teams be from leagues like Russia and so on. Call me selfish but I think that would reuce the quality of the Champions league.
LaPalma
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 29 2007, 07:08 PM)
They have nothing to lose and everything to gain if this where to happen. Think of the money they would get from the TV rights alone.

And I would prefer the CL to stay the same, this might sound bad but I would rather see the CL have 4 big teams from the big leagues rather then having those 4 teams be from leagues like Russia and so on. Call me selfish but I think that would reuce the quality of the Champions league.
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The teams that won't play the CL will be in the UEFA Cup. I really liked the UEFA Cup in the 90ies, but it became a championship for the boring clubs that didn't make it to the CL. All the Eastern European teams play in the UEFA Cup, and the ones from Western Europe in the CL. That's not good IMO. I want to a more interesting UEFA Cup again!
naurif
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jan 30 2007, 12:58 AM)
The teams that won't play the CL will be in the UEFA Cup. I really liked the UEFA Cup in the 90ies, but it became a championship for the boring clubs that didn't make it to the CL. All the Eastern European teams play in the UEFA Cup, and the ones from Western Europe in the CL. That's not good IMO. I want to a more interesting UEFA Cup again!
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yes, and i thnk this way will help in makin UEFA cup more interesting than its now
dst
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jan 27 2007, 03:34 AM)
It's also obvious to me that Platini is the worst nightmare for that stupi @ss Blatter.
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What !?? Platini is the worst nightmare for Blatter !??

Hey pal are you from Mars or what?? Platini is Blatter's puppet, the day he was elected was probably the saddest for football cause it meant the only fort still safe fell on that cheap and dirty man's hands. Platini is Blatter's clone. Blatter's infulence on him is evident. Same politics, same rhetoric and delivery talk, same ideas, same bozoism! Platini went, thewed by his mentor, in every single "little" federation and taking advantage of the fact that the Eastern Bloc felt thrust aside by the Nyon establishment ( rolleyes.gif ) he promised to give them everything... Extra spots on the CL, extra spots on the Euro and Paolo knows what else. Hmm... Reminds me of what Blatter had promised to the Caribbean and Southeastern Asia countries for the World Cup... rolleyes.gif

Even their stupid ideas are so much alike. Someday Blatter had suggested the World Cup should be played every two years. Someday Platini had suggested that the CL should be played with a tableu (just like in tennis), from #1 to #128... Which means Milan for example should begin the competition by playing with some San Marino team, Man U with some Afghanistan one and so on... Johansson is not the best president ever but at least he's not an artful driveller! Now UEFA will be handled just like every other Blatter store, which is what he's been wishing for... he always slobbered for UEFA's cash-desk!

What Platini plans for the CL is so utterly stupid and so highly doubtable that even the newly-elected or re-elected members of the executive committee will not certainly support it (the colloquy [spelling] begins in April). I won't even comment on whether or not the sponsors and broadcasters will support it with their own palpable way... The fourth CL spot Italy, Spain and England have is not a problem in any way. If that fourth team deserves it then it will go through and it is what the tournament needs. If not then 9 times out of 10 it is thrown out, on August! Just like Everton last year. Just like Osasuna and Chievo this year. Just like Mallorca some years ago. No structure ever kept Rapid Wien, Molde, HJK, Maccabi Tel Aviv or whichever team out of the CL.

You know... these days the CL trophy is on tour at the Asian continent. A replica of course cause the real one is still on Barcelona's museum waiting for Puyol to bring it here in Athens on March 9. This also reminds me of Blatter's politics, often implemented by FIFA (just like they did with the WC trophy, another replica of course). I'm not saying that taking the trophy on tour is a bad idea but done this way it's like... you know, like "beads to the aboriginals" ( hope you get what I'm trying to say ). Now tell me, how are the people of Indonesia and China are going to feel when a trophy that is going to be displayed in millions of TVs around the globe on the draw that will take place in Athens on the 9th of March is at the same time going to be displayed at Jakarta and Beijing ? Fatuous to say the least... If this fiasco and the lame two days' CL action is the first sign of the new "Platini Era" I shudder to the thought of what's coming next...

I wish I'm going to be proved a liar and an idiot but I fear everything that was built at UEFA by the technocrats in recent years (the enhanced CL, ΕURO competitions etc) are going to be wasted. I'd rather have a 120 year old Johansson than the occasional Blatter d!ck ( Platini for the moment ). Blatter is coming to destroy everything on the grounds of "divide and govern" that will keep him at the epicentre of the game. UEFA was the last fortress of solemnity left in world football... what we're going to experience is not even imaginable !



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edit: sh1t it took me an hour to put together the right words. huh.gif
Rossoneri7
Great post dst king.gif


But why r u looking at it as if its a controversy ?
dst
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 27 2007, 01:14 PM)
But why r u looking at it as if its a controversy ?
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what do you mean??

And by the way, everyone, sorry for being a bit blatherskite (or should I say blatterskite? rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif ) at the end of my post...
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 27 2007, 03:34 PM)
what do you mean??
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Platini is Blatter's puppet ... Blatter's infulence on him is evident. Same politics, same rhetoric and delivery talk, same ideas, same bozoism!


Here it just seems to me that Blatter is using Platini to continue whatever he had already paved for.

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everything that was built at UEFA by the technocrats in recent years (the enhanced CL, ΕURO competitions etc) are going to be wasted. I'd rather have a 120 year old Johansson than the occasional Blatter d!ck ( Platini for the moment ). Blatter is coming to destroy everything on the grounds of "divide and govern" that will keep him at the epicentre of the game. UEFA was the last fortress of solemnity left in world football... what we're going to experience is not even imaginable !


Thats what I mean .. I know Blatter is a pain, but ur making it look like a controversy of some sorts ..
dst
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 27 2007, 02:55 PM)
Here it just seems to me that Blatter is using Platini to continue whatever he had already paved for.
Thats what I mean .. I know Blatter is a pain, but ur making it look like a controversy of some sorts ..
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I still can't get exactly what you're trying to say. If you read their story intently you can easily understand that they're connected and the real winner of the election is Blatter, not Platini. I don't know how I make it look like a controversy... Blatter desires UEFA's money and he used the only way he could to snatch it. He couldn't have come face to face with Johansson...
dst
Platini wanted to deal with the smaller teams. Lille's president said he'd call him to discuss about what happened in the CL tie against United. Now UEFA rejected Lille's protest (as expected of course) but "have also decided to instigate proceedings against Lille for the improper behaviour of their players immediately after the goal"...

This is Platini's "deal with the minors"... rolleyes.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 27 2007, 04:57 PM)
I still can't get exactly what you're trying to say. If you read their story intently you can easily understand that they're connected and the real winner of the election is Blatter, not Platini. I don't know how I make it look like a controversy... Blatter desires UEFA's money and he used the only way he could to snatch it. He couldn't have come face to face with Johansson...
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Well .. Then I guess it's just me, cuz I have no idea of the politics behind all this.
dst
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 27 2007, 07:43 PM)
Well .. Then I guess it's just me, cuz I have no idea of the politics behind all this.
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I hate politics myself but I hate Blatter more!
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 27 2007, 11:33 PM)
I hate politics myself but I hate Blatter more!
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Is there something I'm missing out on ? Cuz 3/4 of the organizations in this planet earth is corrupt. rolleyes.gif
dst
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 27 2007, 10:37 PM)
Is there something I'm missing out on ? Cuz 3/4 of the organizations in this planet earth is corrupt. rolleyes.gif
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But they're also healthy.
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