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Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 17 2007, 06:07 PM)
Buffon and Cech are better than Dida.
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All on top-form? I don't think so. Anyway, I just want Dida to be 150% to get back to the first 11.
KillerMax
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 17 2007, 12:07 PM)
Buffon and Cech are better than Dida.
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They are all in the same league. Buffon is NUMBER friggin' 1 in the world though.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 17 2007, 09:07 PM)
Buffon and Cech are better than Dida.
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Dida is a CL winner .. DIda is a WC winner .. Dida on one-on-one situations is better. Dida has some howlers sometimes, but all-in-all, is more experienced and is a Rossoneri !! Therefore he is #1

Buffon, just recently wont the WC. And is a GREAT GK .. But in my book there is only Dida, if he was to leave us, then Buffon would be the next in line .. But so far, I feel relaxed with Dida at the posts !

Cech ?! Who ?! Yeah a ver good GK .. But hasn't impressed me much when I compare him to Dida and Buffon ..Sure he has a promising future, but so does Casillas wink.gif
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 17 2007, 01:04 PM)
Who wanted him ahead of Dida ?! I dont think anyone would !! Dida is Dida; in my opinion, the best in the world !! F@ck Buffon ! We have Dida, who has beaten Buffon, head to head on many occassions !
Storari is a 3rd GKeeper .. God have mercy in Celtic park !
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Oh i know. i dont think anyone here on milan fan wanted him but i read the responses of some fans elsewhere and thought he should be ahead of dida LOL i bet none of them had even herd of him before. rolleyes.gif but ya on all thre goals he doesnt know what he doing, then 2nd was a good shot but he jumps the wrong way so he made it impossible to save, just a terrible game by him (even tho i dint see the full game). and this guy has to play the celtic game mad.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Feb 17 2007, 09:20 PM)
Oh i know. i dont think anyone here on milan fan wanted him but i read the responses of some fans elsewhere and thought he should be ahead of dida LOL i bet none of them had even herd of him before. rolleyes.gif but ya on all thre goals he doesnt know what he doing, then 2nd was a good shot but he jumps the wrong way so he made it impossible to save, just a terrible game by him (even tho i dint see the full game). and this guy has to play the celtic game mad.gif
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That is where I am worried sad.gif

Dida please come back sad.gif
bigmacmtl
i have this scary image in my head of nakamura taking a free kick and storari completly misjugding it, or missing it and watching it float into the goal... i'm sure they're gonna pepper him with shots.
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 17 2007, 11:13 AM)
This is not our defence!! We have Nesta and we have Maldini and we have Oddo... with Cafu and Kaladze at the back it's like we're fielding a 9-men squad!!
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A team like milan should have subs that can deal with siena... come on they were terrible... we obviously need more reinforcements because we are going to be losing more guys at the end of the season.
X-Offender
Holy crap, what's wrong with you people? Are you actually telling me Siena's goals were Storari's fault? Come on, don't be so lame. He could have done better, of course, but go and hit him hard like that for 3 taken goals? Every goalie in the world would have taken them. You could blame our defense for being so rusty today, but how in the world can you blame the goalie? I'm pretty sure Dida wouldn't have done better. Actually, I'm afraid he might have made some blunder which would have cost us the whole game... again. rolleyes.gif
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 17 2007, 01:36 PM)
Holy crap, what's wrong with you people? Are you actually telling me Siena's goals were Storari's fault? Come on, don't be so lame. He could have done better, of course, but go and hit him hard like that for 3 taken goals? Every goalie in the world would have taken them. You could blame our defense for being so rusty today, but how in the world can you blame the goalie? I'm pretty sure Dida wouldn't have done better. Actually, I'm afraid he might have made some blunder which would have cost us the whole game... again. rolleyes.gif
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1st and 3rd goal the shot goes right thru him...
bigmacmtl
2 goals and an assist for ronaldo... just amazing...
X-Offender
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Feb 17 2007, 07:45 PM)
1st and 3rd goal the shot goes right thru him...
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On the first goal he might have done something... if he was taller. In the second, nobody in the world would have stopped that shot. On the third, maybe he could have done better, but it's not his fault Maccarone was all alone in the area. I'm saying it again, stop blaming the goalie.

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Feb 17 2007, 07:47 PM)
2 goals and an assist for ronaldo... just amazing...
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han2503
GREAT ratings Max, agree with everything.

And also a very interesting read cool.gif

Our patched up defence was in shambles, Kaladze was way out of it and I think it's too much to expect Bonera to lead the defensive line, even though he has been amazing this month. Cafu wasn't that bad going forward but was horrible in defence same for Janku. The defence was again not playing as a unit and I think it all comes down to the fact that we keep messing around with the 2 in the center. But because of the situation we have atm we have no choice since resting Maldini for Celtic was more important.

As for Storari, I don't blame him for the goals we conceeded since it was clear he couldn't do anything about them, I would still trust him more then Kalac. The only thing that got me mad was his foolish mistake when he miskicked the ball, these things can't happen

The midfield was great I thought. Brocchi was surprisingly helping out a lot in attack and made some great passes, the one to set up R9 for that missed 1 on 1 was great. Pirlo wasn't as bad as he was last Sunday, hopefully he will step it up a notch against Celtic. Gattuso was Gattuso.

The attack is where we shone, for the first time this season we actually looked like the Milan of old, Kaka is getting back to his best, he was a bit bad in the first half but was great in the second. Oli was everywhere and looks like he is regaining his form, although he does get beaten off the ball quite easily, which is something that comes from the fact that he is used to Spanish football.

Ronaldo was amazing though and I'm really sad that he is cup tied, he was creative, he was selfless, he scored to goals that ultimately helped us win the match. I think this is our Sheva replacement, and considering how the one in England is playing, we have definately got the best deal out of the whole situation.

But you know what I really liked, the late goal, that means that the team never gave up like they have been doing ever since this season started, we haven't done that since the game against Lyon.

Plus this is the first time we've scored 4 goals this season cool.gif
dst
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Feb 17 2007, 08:26 PM)
A team like milan should have subs that can deal with siena... come on they were terrible... we obviously need more reinforcements because we are going to be losing more guys at the end of the season.
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I'm with you my friend...

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 17 2007, 08:36 PM)
Holy crap, what's wrong with you people? Are you actually telling me Siena's goals were Storari's fault? Come on, don't be so lame. He could have done better, of course, but go and hit him hard like that for 3 taken goals? Every goalie in the world would have taken them. You could blame our defense for being so rusty today, but how in the world can you blame the goalie? I'm pretty sure Dida wouldn't have done better. Actually, I'm afraid he might have made some blunder which would have cost us the whole game... again. rolleyes.gif
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That's what I was going to say... last week we were all saying how amazing he was on his debut and now after conceding 3 goals from point blank range he's a lame @ss, worse even than Kalac... pelase... gimme a break! rolleyes.gif

He's not Buffon and he's not Dida either... he's not in that league (didn't we all know that before) and maybe, MAYBE, ONLY they could have done something better!!

I agree with X-Offender for a change!! biggrin.gif cool.gif
dst
QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 17 2007, 09:39 PM)
it all comes down to the fact that we keep messing around with the 2 in the center.
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That has been a big problem.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 17 2007, 09:39 PM)
But you know what I really liked, the late goal, that means that the team never gave up
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that was king.gif

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 17 2007, 09:39 PM)
Plus this is the first time we've scored 4 goals this season cool.gif
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Finally cool.gif
Locke Lamora
I don't know wether to celebrate or cry...
We win, 3 points.
With this defence we'll NEVER win agains't good teams.
han2503
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Feb 17 2007, 08:12 PM)
I don't know wether to celebrate or cry...
We win, 3 points.
With this defence we'll NEVER win agains't good teams.
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Nesta will be back in March so don't lose optimism just yet.

Plus against Celtic Paolo will come in for Kala. Maldini and Bonera have been reat next to eachother and I'm pretty sure we won't conceed any soft goals like we have today and against Livorno last week
dst
QUOTE (Carletto)
We should have marked better in defence but I am thinking about not employing the zonal anymore. We have talked to the players after the game. It's not by chance that we conceded a goal after scoring. There should be no reason for that.

No zonal?? Then what, man marking?? Or will we bring Baresi back? rolleyes.gif This is not a good idea. Kaladze is lame, chaning the line won't change him...

In two consecutive games we conceded 4 goals, each one after scoring ourselves... this should not happen again!! mad.gif

QUOTE (Galliani)
I want to set up a copyright on the three Brazilians we had in attack today: KaRoLi.

Bold jokes. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (acmilan.com)
As for the young French star Gourcuff, it has not been a marvellous period for him but he proved what an important member of the team he is and embodies that never-say-die attitude we have come to expect from Milan.

"has not been a marvelous period" for Gourcuff!?? And I though he was not given a chance to pulls his marvels... rolleyes.gif His attitude was just so Milanish!! king.gif
han2503
Ronaldo: You ain't seen nothing yet

Ronaldo scored two goals in his first start for Milan, but assures the fans he can do so much more this season.

“I am truly happy with this victory, but there’s a lot of work yet to be done. If someone feels cramp, then it means he’s not 100 per cent fit,” said Il Fenomeno.

He was off the pitch for treatment when Siena scored their equaliser, but Massimo Ambrosini’s looping header secured a scintillating 4-3 win at the Stadio Franchi.

“We cannot keep conceding so many goals, but apart from that aspect, we’re all content with the result. We gave everything we had and I was able to carry on for the 90 minutes despite getting knocked about quite a bit,” he revealed on Sky Italia.

“It’s a shame, as I wasted a good chance in the first half, the kind of finish I usually don’t miss.”

Ronaldo combined brilliantly with fellow Brazilians Kaka and Ricardo Oliveira for a spectacular Milan performance, taking them within two points of the Champions League place currently held by Empoli, who also won today against Roma.

“This team can certainly go far – very far. Not even we know where, as every game has everything to prove. I dedicate this brace to my son. For the rest, I will let my actions speak for me, as those will silence the critics.”

Many have accused the ex-Inter star of being out of shape and a shadow of the player who graced Serie A last in 2002, but in his two appearances so far he has been remarkably impressive.

However, Milan will be forced to do without him for the Champions’ League trip to Celtic Park, as he is Cup-tied from his games with Real Madrid.

“It is a weight on me to be out of that competition, as I cared about it a great deal. I’ll just have to hold on until next season. In any case, I shall remain by my teammates’ side throughout and cheer them on.”
dst
Fatman Turner Overdrive... rolleyes.gif
whoarethepatriots
Lets not be too harsh on Storari, there was nothing much he could

Remember Dida was in poor form for a part of last season

I still have confidence in him
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Feb 18 2007, 01:01 AM)
Lets not be too harsh on Storari, there was nothing much he could

Remember Dida was in poor form for a part of last season

I still have confidence in him
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Storari is only better than Fiori .. Kalac should play ahead of Storari if he recovers in time. At least Kalac kept a clean sheet against Bayern in the Allenz, which gives me more confidence in him.

Storari was never a dependable GK .. He is clearly a second fiddle player
X-Offender
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 17 2007, 11:13 PM)
Storari is only better than Fiori .. Kalac should play ahead of Storari if he recovers in time. At least Kalac kept a clean sheet against Bayern in the Allenz, which gives me more confidence in him.

Storari was never a dependable GK .. He is clearly a second fiddle player
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Please tell me you're joking. Kalac better than Storari? Oh please R7, don't lower yourself like this. I don't understand how can you blame him on today's goals. I watched them over and over and I'm still with the idea nobody could have done better than Storari did. Our problem is not the goalie, but the defense, so let's concentrate on that.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 18 2007, 02:56 AM)
Please tell me you're joking. Kalac better than Storari? Oh please R7, don't lower yourself like this. I don't understand how can you blame him on today's goals. I watched them over and over and I'm still with the idea nobody could have done better than Storari did. Our problem is not the goalie, but the defense, so let's concentrate on that.
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Then think about it this way ... Kalac has held a clean sheet against Bayern last season .. He also has had his share of bad and good games, but when it really matters he has put in a good performance ..


So STorari had a good debut .. Wooohooo ... But Messina havent had the best of times with him in goal too rolleyes.gif So, that is why I'm not too confident with him being ahead of Kalac ..

But why are we talking ?! We'll see on Tuesday if he can really take the heat king.gif
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 17 2007, 06:56 PM)
Please tell me you're joking. Kalac better than Storari? Oh please R7, don't lower yourself like this. I don't understand how can you blame him on today's goals. I watched them over and over and I'm still with the idea nobody could have done better than Storari did. Our problem is not the goalie, but the defense, so let's concentrate on that.
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in the end having a great 2nd or 3rd string GK doesnt matter that much. Dida has been a great GK for us but i think we should get a new GK, mainly cuz dida isnt getting younger and older players are often out injured like what is happening right now. SO if we can get a Gk that doesnt get that isnt always injured, the backup GKers wont have to play. It's true the defense is the main problem. I dint see the game but milan is a possesion team, so the defense isnt under constant pressure and shouldnt make so many mistakes but they are...
X-Offender
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 18 2007, 01:06 AM)
Then think about it this way ... Kalac has held a clean sheet against Bayern last season .. He also has had his share of bad and good games, but when it really matters he has put in a good performance ..
So STorari had a good debut .. Wooohooo ... But Messina havent had the best of times with him in goal too rolleyes.gif So, that is why I'm not too confident with him being ahead of Kalac ..

But why are we talking ?! We'll see on Tuesday if he can really take the heat king.gif
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Well yeah, Kalac has had his on days (outstanding saves) and off days (childish blunders). That's why I don't trust him. What if he makes another blunder like the ones of Bresica or Lille against Celtic? At least Storari is more consistent and doesn't make those kind of errors.
Rossoneri7
X-Offender, it really doesn't matter if it's Kalac or Storari in goal .. I was just drawing a line between the two of them, and the fact that at least Kalac has had a couple of games with Milan and is familiar with the defence. Storari is a virgin in Milan's defence, if Siena could score 3 goals .. I wouldnt want to imagine how much Celtic on their own ground would.

But Kalac isnt an better, cuz he has had his howlers with us this season ... So in the end .. If it aint Dida in goal, then God help our defence.
X-Offender
I'm sure if the defense is in a good day, it won't really matter who's in the goal.
Warchant
all 3 goals were 100% the defenses fault. some of the top goal keepers in the world would have trouble guarding a goal when a striker is wide open.

our defense was horrible...plain and simple horrible

this game also showed why we needed some like ronaldo on our team
misha
QUOTE (Warchant @ Feb 18 2007, 03:39 AM)
all 3 goals were 100% the defenses fault. some of the top goal keepers in the world would have trouble guarding a goal when a striker is wide open.

our defense was horrible...plain and simple horrible
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Exactly. He did everything he could. And BTW he is better than Kalac
arivanjj
QUOTE (mishale @ Feb 18 2007, 03:46 PM)
Exactly. He did everything he could. And BTW he is better than Kalac
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way better... kalac is a flop!
han2503
I was just watching the match again on Milan channel and our last goal was an own goal. The corner Gourcuff put in was perfectly aimed at one of the Siena player's @ss.

From the angle I saw it from it looked very clear that Ambro never got anywhere near the ball, infact he was being fouled and pulled down to the ground, the player that was marking Kaka turned his back and the ball hit him on the @ss and it went in
dst
QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 18 2007, 04:58 PM)
I was just watching the match again on Milan channel and our last goal was an own goal. The corner Gourcuff put in was perfectly aimed at one of the Siena player's @ss.
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I saw that too... it was an @ss goal! biggrin.gif
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 18 2007, 02:59 PM)
I saw that too... it was an @ss goal!  biggrin.gif
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Classy cool.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 18 2007, 05:59 PM)
I saw that too... it was an @ss goal!  biggrin.gif
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Hehe .. good thing for us there isn't a rule against an @ss ball tongue.gif (thinking hand ball) ... Ofcourse if it was turtle's @ss .. Woooohooooo that would have been a sweet goal laugh.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 18 2007, 03:03 PM)
Hehe .. good thing for us there isn't a rule against an @ss ball  tongue.gif (thinking hand ball) ... Ofcourse if it was turtle's @ss .. Woooohooooo that would have been a sweet goal laugh.gif
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Or the ball would have bounced too much and ended up on the roof of the net tongue.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 18 2007, 06:07 PM)
Or the ball would have bounced to much and ended up on the roof of the net tongue.gif
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That too .. or it could get lost in ... Noo I dont even want to think about that ! laugh.gif
misha
QUOTE
Speaking after Real's 0-0 draw with Real Betis, Capello was asked for a reaction to Ronaldo's goal surge: "That's a different championship.

"At the moment, the toughest games are played in the English and Spanish championships."
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biggrin.gif Jealous
milanistar
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Speaking after Real's 0-0 draw with Real Betis, Capello was asked for a reaction to Ronaldo's goal surge: "That's a different championship.

"At the moment, the toughest games are played in the English and Spanish championships."


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han2503
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Speaking after Real's 0-0 draw with Real Betis, Capello was asked for a reaction to Ronaldo's goal surge: "That's a different championship.

"At the moment, the toughest games are played in the English and Spanish championships."


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Yeah right rolleyes.gif

The serie A is the toughest league defensively, if you want to watch a game with no defence then watch the EPL and La Liga rolleyes.gif

I wonder how he feels after practically driving Ronaldo away, when his team can't seem to score if their life depended on it and the guy he said that was finished just scored a brace and made an assist in the weekend laugh.gif
KillerMax
I was just watching Atletico vs. Sevilla and Sevilla's first goal was so easy that I could score it with my broken shin... I mean if they call that a tough league to score in, then I have no idea what they call Serie A, where they break your face if you ever get close to the opposition's goal...
han2503
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Feb 18 2007, 08:46 PM)
I was just watching Atletico vs. Sevilla and Sevilla's first goal was so easy that I could score it with my broken shin... I mean if they call that a tough league to score in, then I have no idea what they call Serie A, where they break your face if you ever get close to the opposition's goal...
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You know Cappello is a stubborn son of a b!tch and will never admit he is wrong.
dst
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Feb 18 2007, 10:46 PM)
... where they break your face if you ever get close to the opposition's goal...
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bigmacmtl
QUOTE (mishale @ Feb 12 2007, 07:01 PM)
We should continue our good form. 0:2 smile.gif
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i wouldnt say good form, i'd say winning form. we havent overly impressed, but we've done enough to win games and get results.
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