16 teams that qualifyed automaticly + 16 that qualifyed today will be drawn with help from Uefa standings to 8 groups with 4 teams

The automatically qualified teams are:


FC Barcelona
Real Madrid
FC Chelsea London
Manchester United
Inter Milan
AS Rom
Olympique Lyon
Girondins Bordeaux
Bayern München
Werder Bremen
FC Porto
PSV Eindhoven
Olympiakos Piräus
RSC Anderlecht
Celtic Galsgow

Yeah, I get it now. Thanks.

We wont draw Liverfool with us in the same group stage .. But I'll be more than happy to kick their asses in a semi-final, when the occasion is extremely intense

you think they'll get to the semis. I really doubt

You think we'll get to the semis?

I'm not sure about that. Obviously we had a better team last season, but I wouldn't say we have no chance this year. Sheva or non-Sheva, we'll still play a good football and make another great season.

this year it's going to be hard and tasty , we are not ranked when the draw is held, so that means we'll verse top teams.

ps. i hope we verse chelsea and barca

What you are talking about? We are ranked first
We can meet Chealse but no Barca for you

oh my bad i knew that we were ranked first in EU. but i thought since we went in through qualifiers, we wouldn't be ranked in the draw

Yes
And more serously YES, and we can further (if not eliminated in the group stage )

If we get through the group stage then I think we will definately get there, Ancelloti is a genius when it comes to 2 legged knock-out games, so I think we still have a big chance to getting through to the semis yes.

But considering our luck we will get the group of death so, I think it will be an ordeal just to get out of the group.

With this team? Defence and attack? The SEMIS of CL?

We'll be lucky if we reach the quarter-finals.

If we change our tactical system then yes we can do it, our defense won't be Cafu-Simic-Billy-serginho for the whole seaseon, I hope you know that.

If no striker comes then we will play the xmas tree, nothing to worry about, we don't need Sheva to play with that formation.

Even with Xmas tree... do you think we have any chance vs. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Inter or Chelsea?

I don't think so.

Dont go on making Inter look good they dream of bieng like us and every time our name is said A.C.Milan they cringe in fear!

I'm just looking at the squads. Not the past.

Inter could have the best f@cking squad in the world and they would still suck...

I definetely agree. The Round of 16 will be good sadly ...

Inter are going nowhere!!!!!

These are the 8 groups:
Group A:

FC Barcelona

FC Chelsea

Werder Bremen

Levski Sofia




Group B:

Inter Milan

Bayern München

Sporting Lissabon

Spartak Moskau


Group C:

FC Liverpool

PSV Eindhoven

Girondis Bordeaux

Galatasaray Istanbul


Group D:

FC Valencia

AS Rom

Olympiakos Piräus

Schachtjor Donezk


Group E:

Real Madrid

Olympique Lyon

Steaua Bukarest

Dynamo Kiew


Group F:

Manchester United

Celtic Glasgow

Benfica Lissabon

FC Kopenhagen


Group G:

Arsenal London

FC Porto

ZSKA Moskau

Hamburger SV


Group H:

AC Milan

OSC Lille

AEK Athen

RSC Anderlecht

I like it....Barca and Chelsea and Bremen. Kick @ss Klose!!!

Why can't we play any good teams...!!!???

Cause we're lucky!

Since when have Inter become a contender and a treath, if you can remeber correctly thay have always spent a lot of money on transfers but always failed and they usually get the easiest draws from the rest of the Italian teams. Inter did nothing but buy 2 strikers, 1 of them has already proven that he will fail there (Crespo, I guess he was REALLY desperate to come back to Italy for him to chose Inter) and you already know that I'm not an Ibra fan and I think that he won't have a good season at Inter. I might be wrong about this and he will have a great season but that is highly unlikely. Oh and I forgot about Virera or as dst put it Patrick unlucky Viera

We'll see what Real can do against Lyon, last year Lyon trashed Real and I know that we can't compare this season to the last one concernig Real with the signings that they have made, but for one Cappello doesn't convince me anymore especially in the CL and now we'll really see if all those signings where worth it for them.

And Chelsea proved just how beatable they are yesterday, they might spend sh!t loads of money to get all the stars but the cracks in their squad have already started to show with Lampard and Ballack reportedly not being the best of friends and some of the players that where already there like Lampard and Terry have already started to show that they are not happy with the difference between their salaries and the ones Sheva and Ballack have.

Barca imo oppinion are the only ones that I consider being the biggest treath for us, they reinforced their weakpoints and didn't try to scoop up any new supertars just strengthened what was already a very strong team.

I don't know why people don't like the xmas tree so much in 02/03 we played a lot of games with that formation and look where that got us, yep qe won the CL, and even in 04/05 we played a lot of games with that formation especially when Sheva had to have surgery in his face

Totally agree. The matches against Manchester U. were two of our best games that season. If we don't sign a new striker, we definitely should play with the Xmas tree.

My predictions:

A: Barcelona, Chelsea
B: Inter, Bayern
C: Liverpool, Bourdeux
D: Valencia, Roma
E: Real, Lyon
F: ManUtd, Benfica
G: Arsenal, Hamburg
H: Milan, AEK

Inspired by Portugal I would give mine:
A little adventurous

A: Barcelona, Chelsea
B: Inter, Bayern
C: Liverpool, Galatasaray
D: Roma, Valencia,
E: Real, Dinamo Kiev
F: ManUtd, Benfica
G: Arsenal, CSKA
H: Milan, Lille

see Portugal ... he doesn't like Porto ...

Lyon will definitely make it IMO, maybe even be the top seed again.

A: Barcelona, Chelsea
B: Inter, Bayern
C: Liverpool, PSV
D: Roma, Valencia
E: Real, Lyon
F: ManUtd, Benfica
G: Arsenal, Porto
H: Milan, Lille

You probably right but Dinamo Kiev has a very good team this year.

last time we met AEK was the 1994/95 season. Back then we drew 0-0 at Athens and won 2-1 at "home". The return game was not played in San Siro (Milan was suspended for fans throwing objects on Saltzburg's goalkeeper) but instead it was held at Trieste!Both Milan goals were scored by Panucci!!

I live in Porto...

So... predictions for this 1st day of CL group stage?

I'll say the most important matches:

-Chelsea 2-1 Bremen
-Barcelona 4-0 Levski
-Sporting 0-1 Inter
-PSV 0-1 Liverpool
-Roma 1-0 Shaktar

-Lyon 1-2 R.Madrid
-ManUtd 2-0 Celtic
-København 0-1 Benfica
-Porto 2-0 CSKA
-Hamburg 1-2 Arsenal
-Milan 2-0 AEK (already predicted)

I don't know why I said that in the first place but I meant the team not the city!!!


which game would you guys and gals choose to watch from the one scheduled on Tuesday???

The one RAI, mediaset, or the local channels will show, I'll check the TV guides later and get back to you with my choice

btw Portugal, Arsenal won't win and Chelsea will lose to Bremen. Oh and let's not forget, Lyon will win THAT tie.

I've no big preferences in here. I hate the portuguese soccer. Too much mafia on it too, specially in the North... Maybe that's why I prefer the clubs from Lisbon. But I don't give a damn about who win, or who's winning... just watch the matches if I've nothing to do.

The match? Tuesday? Well.. I can see Chelsea, Barça, Inter, Valencia, Bayern and Galatasaray matches live... maybe I'll be zapping between them. Specially the first 3.

I will pick the Chelsea vs Bremen game. Should be very good game. Hope Sheva will score

I checked their TV guide and they'll show only Milan - AEK on Wednesday.

Chelsea will win yeah because of Bremen's sh1tty def mostly and Sheva's exp but Werder will score too ... probably something like 4-3 I'd say
Inter will have a walk in the park ... 0-3
Liverpool will lose 1-0 or maybe draw and Real will definetely be defeated!!! Arsenal will win; they always do so in the group stages!!!


You have not watched the greek one apparently ... Lucky you!!!

well here they'll be broadcasting the Olympiacos-Valencia tie so ... I'll probably be in some bar drinking and watching real football on Tuesday night!!!

I'll most probably watch Bremen-Chelsea on Tuesday. I hope Klose will be able to play, if he is than we can expect a great game! Unfortunately Mertesacker is still injured, so Bremens defence really is a joke....
My predictions:

-Chelsea 2-2 Bremen
-Sporting 0-2 Inter
-PSV 0-0 Liverpool
-Lyon 0-1 R.Madrid
-Hamburg 1-1 Arsenal

Drinking sounds good to me

apparently .........


oh and ... keep your predictions for Serie A; your Moggish acts do not work in the CL!!!

You have no idea, I just have a friend of mine from Switzerland on the phone
"Oh yes Sepp, everything will go as planned...."

Sporting is not a bad team. Lot of young players from their Academy. Maybe Inter will crush them, but that just because it's their first CL match in... 6-7 years? And when you have a team with so many youngsters, they'll probably get too nervous on the first match on the major European competition.

But believe me. They have some good players: no... NOT RICARDO! But Nani (ofensive mid) and Liedson (super-diver but good striker). Moutinho (center mid) is not bad too.

He is great in FM

What is FM? Fidmielder?

Football Manager

you ...


OK ... I'm not saying it is ... but unfortunately I think that Inter is going to have an easy task to take care of over there!!

Yeah I just checked, and apperantly our local stations haven't bought the rights this year. I just hope that Rai show all the Milan matches, because there is no other option. And to watch all the games on cable it cost a ridiculuos ammount of money to subscribe for their sport packages.

And do you know why mediaset aren't showing any matches like they used to? what happened. Rai are only showing ONE match from all those, at least Mediaset used to broascast 2, 1 on tuesday and 1 on wednesday





Don't complain about how bad football is in Greece because that would mean that you haven't witnesses Maltese football. I've tried watching a game but I just can't go through with it, it's that bad. They don't even allow our clubs to even TRY and participate in the CL. Even to go into the UEFA cup they have to go through a million preliminary rounds, and they still lose against teams with names consisting of numbers. That's how bad football is over here. But still everyone is obsessed with it