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Van Persie won't be going anywhere anytime soon, Wenger really, really admire him.
At the moment, Van Persie and Adebayor up front works well, maybe throw on Eduardo and Walcott when Ade has exhausted the defenders by constantly moving around in the box.
@Toure.
The guy fires some serious cannons from time to time, but I hope they starts hitting the net soon.
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Wenger's mind is not working properly... *coughovermarscough*
Marc Overmars .. Yeah, Wenger really wasn't thinking straight. But during that time, Arsenal's books weren't looking too great. And they already won the league at that time, so Arsenal was in a very vulnerable position at the time.
95 Final against Ajax
95 Final against Ajax
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 11 2007, 10:47 PM)
Wenger's mind is not working properly... *coughovermarscough*
LOL.
Do you really think he's gonna sell Van Persie?
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Oct 12 2007, 09:27 AM)
LOL.
Do you really think he's gonna sell Van Persie?
Do you really think he's gonna sell Van Persie?
If he gets an offer around 30 million pound, sure he will.
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Oct 12 2007, 06:27 PM)
LOL.
Do you really think he's gonna sell Van Persie?
Do you really think he's gonna sell Van Persie?
Yes. He's done it before and I don't see why he wouldn't it again... I'm not saying I'm 100% sure he'd do it but I wouldn't be so confident if I was a real Arsenal fan! The past says he'd do it...
Plus he's getting old... he's already 24!
For Milan though he hasn't even been born yet! 
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 12 2007, 07:28 PM)
Plus he's getting old... he's already 24! For Milan though he hasn't even been born yet!
For Milan though he hasn't even been born yet! dst has a point
Strange move to bring in Lehmann a couple of seasons ago, then.
80 million pound offer? We earn over 3 million pounds from each match held at the Emirates. And then you have the sponsorship with Fly Emirates, other sponsors, CL bonus etc.
Besides, the board has confirmed that Wenger have 70 million at his disposal for bringing in players.
So, money is not an issue.
80 million pound offer? We earn over 3 million pounds from each match held at the Emirates. And then you have the sponsorship with Fly Emirates, other sponsors, CL bonus etc.
Besides, the board has confirmed that Wenger have 70 million at his disposal for bringing in players.
So, money is not an issue.
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Oct 12 2007, 11:12 PM)
Strange move to bring in Lehmann a couple of seasons ago, then.
Oh come on... wasn't that a strange move!?!??! Lehmann's picture is what appears next to the definition of "the exception that proves the rule"!!
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Oct 12 2007, 11:12 PM)
So, money is not an issue.
It wasn't with Overmars either. Not with Vieira too.
Remember, Lehmann was outstanding during the 05 and 06 seasons.
And Vieira wanted to leave as he was confident Arsenal would never manage to win the one trophy still eluding him; Champions League.
And Vieira wanted to leave as he was confident Arsenal would never manage to win the one trophy still eluding him; Champions League.
It is my belief that Arsenal do not want a certain type of player on their team, players that play for themself rather than the team.
This is why the likes of Anelka, Henry, Overmars, Cole and Vieira were allowed to leave. Yet a guy like Bergkamp was allowed to stay on. It's nothing to do with money in my opinion, just the attitude of the player.
I personally see van Persie leaving at some point in the future, but I don't think Fabregas will be sold, he'll retire a Gunner or leave to finish off his career with a team he likes in Spain or something.
This is why the likes of Anelka, Henry, Overmars, Cole and Vieira were allowed to leave. Yet a guy like Bergkamp was allowed to stay on. It's nothing to do with money in my opinion, just the attitude of the player.
I personally see van Persie leaving at some point in the future, but I don't think Fabregas will be sold, he'll retire a Gunner or leave to finish off his career with a team he likes in Spain or something.
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Oct 13 2007, 12:09 AM)
Remember, Lehmann was outstanding during the 05 and 06 seasons.
And Vieira wanted to leave as he was confident Arsenal would never manage to win the one trophy still eluding him; Champions League.
And Vieira wanted to leave as he was confident Arsenal would never manage to win the one trophy still eluding him; Champions League.
But what does that have to do with anything? Of course old footballers can produce... see Serie A! But Arsenal do not buy old players... Lehmann was only an exception, don't you agree?
Yes but Wenger wanted him to go too. That's why Arsenal sold him for nothing.
Anyway, I'm only saying that in my view van Persie would be allowed to go if a good offer came in and he wanted to. That's just how I see it... At the moment I only see Fabregas as untransferable!
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 13 2007, 12:29 AM)
I don't think Fabregas will be sold, he'll retire a Gunner or leave to finish off his career with a team he likes in Spain or something.
Really? I think Fabregas will be gone in 6 years maybe even sooner.
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Oct 12 2007, 11:09 PM)
Vieira wanted to leave as he was confident Arsenal would never manage to win the one trophy still eluding him; Champions League.
If he went to Inter for the CL then he's not that smart to say the least
@dst.
Gallas wasn't exactly young either when he was brought in, but apart from those two, your'e right.
At the moment, I can't see why Van Persie would want to leave, but of course he will if he's unhappy and receives a good offer.
@mishale.
Well...I never said he was a bright one...just a terrific midfielder.
Gallas wasn't exactly young either when he was brought in, but apart from those two, your'e right.
At the moment, I can't see why Van Persie would want to leave, but of course he will if he's unhappy and receives a good offer.
@mishale.
Well...I never said he was a bright one...just a terrific midfielder.
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Oct 13 2007, 06:04 PM)
@dst.
Gallas wasn't exactly young either when he was brought in, but apart from those two, your'e right.
At the moment, I can't see why Van Persie would want to leave, but of course he will if he's unhappy and receives a good offer.
@mishale.
Well...I never said he was a bright one...just a terrific midfielder.
Gallas wasn't exactly young either when he was brought in, but apart from those two, your'e right.
At the moment, I can't see why Van Persie would want to leave, but of course he will if he's unhappy and receives a good offer.
@mishale.
Well...I never said he was a bright one...just a terrific midfielder.
Arsenal bought Gallas, Milan bought Pato... sh!t happens!!
No van Persie has no reason to leave (I guess). I'm only saying that if a good offer came and he liked it, Wenger would probably let him go...
Great midfielder no doubt. But he made a wrong move... it's not like Juventus (and then Inter) are the usual European suspects... I really enjoyed it that Arsenal eliminated Giuve and reached the final the season after he left! And I would love to seem them repeat that again (unless of course they find Milan on their way) cause I never liked Henry and I like him even less now that he's gone!
A very pleasing January transfer window rumour.
Villa are rumoured to be preparing a bid for want away Liverpool star Jon Arne Riise. John Carew has told him that he would be very welcome, and would fit in well, at the Midlands club.
I think there's about 1% chance of it happening. One can always dream.
EDIT: Something I was unaware of..
Riise sold his house this past summer, as he was on the brink of a move to Villa. The deal fell through when his replacement, Heinze, was unable to join Liverpool. Maybe it's more likely than I first thought!
Villa are rumoured to be preparing a bid for want away Liverpool star Jon Arne Riise. John Carew has told him that he would be very welcome, and would fit in well, at the Midlands club.
I think there's about 1% chance of it happening. One can always dream.
EDIT: Something I was unaware of..
Riise sold his house this past summer, as he was on the brink of a move to Villa. The deal fell through when his replacement, Heinze, was unable to join Liverpool. Maybe it's more likely than I first thought!
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 17 2007, 12:51 AM)
A very pleasing January transfer window rumour.
Vill are rumoured to be preparing a bid for want away Liverpool star Jon Arne Riise. John Carew has told him that he would be very welcome, and would fit in well, at the Midlands club.
I think there's about 1% chance of it happening. One can always dream.
Vill are rumoured to be preparing a bid for want away Liverpool star Jon Arne Riise. John Carew has told him that he would be very welcome, and would fit in well, at the Midlands club.
I think there's about 1% chance of it happening. One can always dream.
I think he is an integral part of Liverpool. He no longer plays at left back there, Benitez has played him mostly in midfield, so he has to face competition for first team football. In that case there might be that 1% chance
It's about time he left !! Bolton are in a real mess now !!!
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 17 2007, 11:47 AM)
He's single handedly turned them from a UEFA Cup/mid-table team to a relegation threatened team, what a useless manager.
In other news, goal.com is running an articles saying RvP is injured, while playing for the NT. The knee from the looks of it. And they're saying he could be out for a month. I must have this rotten tongue, coz just last week I was wondering if Arsenal had replaced their Henry fixation with something Dutch.
I guess I'll find out. In an way I'm excited coz I'll get to see Eduardo(am I right Locke?) and Bendtner(
). The latter being the guy I want to see. English media's been quite, but reliable sources tell me this boy could be big.
And what about Persie and his injuries?!! And it always seems to strike at the wrong moments!! Remember the comments that Czech med staff made about Rosicky's condition, and how the Gunners med staff didn't have the competency to diagnose or treat the problem!! Wierd...
And did Babel play in the qualifiers against Slovenia? I heard rumours him and MvB had a fall out! I find this wierd since MvB had said the bloke could easily be better than Henry.
I guess I'll find out. In an way I'm excited coz I'll get to see Eduardo(am I right Locke?) and Bendtner(
). The latter being the guy I want to see. English media's been quite, but reliable sources tell me this boy could be big. And what about Persie and his injuries?!! And it always seems to strike at the wrong moments!! Remember the comments that Czech med staff made about Rosicky's condition, and how the Gunners med staff didn't have the competency to diagnose or treat the problem!! Wierd...
And did Babel play in the qualifiers against Slovenia? I heard rumours him and MvB had a fall out! I find this wierd since MvB had said the bloke could easily be better than Henry.
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2007, 08:05 PM)
Bendtner(). The latter being the guy I want to see. English media's been quite, but reliable sources tell me this boy could be big.
). The latter being the guy I want to see. English media's been quite, but reliable sources tell me this boy could be big.
.................... Like Ash would say, watching paint dry is more exciting than Bendtner! That lad is one of the worst football players Wenger has ever brought to Arsenal!QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2007, 08:05 PM)
And did Babel play in the qualifiers against Slovenia? I heard rumours him and MvB had a fall out! I find this wierd since MvB had said the bloke could easily be better than Henry.
Well if he adopted the Henry attitude as well then MvB was right to exclude him from his plans! But I don't even know if he played!
Really? I even heard Wenger didn't let the kid go out on a loan, and even got rid of Aliadiere to let him play more...my sources and your sources obviously hate each other.
I've watched the guy play... I'm surprised he's with Arsenal, he doesn't even have the technique to be there.
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I'm surprised he's with Arsenal, he doesn't even have the technique to be there.
Sounds like Inzaghi in Milan
Well his wiki reads as if all he can do is score goals. Unfortunately football thanks to modern tactics has been relegated to a battle of strategy and strength. Very few teams really have that great blend of technical ability and sound strategy. Milan on their day have both. Arsenal mostly have the first, but not the second. Seeing Bolton under Big Sam was the reverse.
This footballing era sucks. Thank god for Pirlo and Kaka, otherwise I might even have to go watch
ice-hockey.
@Jackie boy.
I expect Wenger to field Adebayor up front with Eduardo as strike partner.
Bendtner ain't experienced enough and Walcott works best as a late substitute.
Shame about Van Persie, he'll be out for over a month...international matches be damned!
As for Rosicky, he's suffering from a recurring hamstring, but seeing as we have a wealth of midfielders to choose from already, we can cope without him.
@dst.
1. He's just 19 years old, give him time.
2. Iv'e never said this guy is the next Maradona or anything.
If he turns out to be just an above-average striker, then fine by me.
I expect Wenger to field Adebayor up front with Eduardo as strike partner.
Bendtner ain't experienced enough and Walcott works best as a late substitute.
Shame about Van Persie, he'll be out for over a month...international matches be damned!
As for Rosicky, he's suffering from a recurring hamstring, but seeing as we have a wealth of midfielders to choose from already, we can cope without him.
@dst.
1. He's just 19 years old, give him time.
2. Iv'e never said this guy is the next Maradona or anything.
If he turns out to be just an above-average striker, then fine by me.
I'll give him as much time as you want but if he turns out to be just an above-average striker, I'd be surprised!
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 19 2007, 09:02 PM)
I'll give him as much time as you want but if he turns out to be just an above-average striker, I'd be surprised!
Why?
Cause he hasn't shown any promise... of course I'm not Wenger, he knows great talent when he sees it and he has help develop so many great footballers... I'm going to have to see what he makes of Bendtner too.
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 19 2007, 09:45 PM)
Cause he hasn't shown any promise... of course I'm not Wenger, he knows great talent when he sees it and he has help develop so many great footballers... I'm going to have to see what he makes of Bendtner too.
I think we all have to.
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2007, 02:34 PM)
Sounds like Inzaghi in Milan
Well his wiki reads as if all he can do is score goals. Unfortunately football thanks to modern tactics has been relegated to a battle of strategy and strength. Very few teams really have that great blend of technical ability and sound strategy. Milan on their day have both. Arsenal mostly have the first, but not the second. Seeing Bolton under Big Sam was the reverse.
This footballing era sucks. Thank god for Pirlo and Kaka, otherwise I might even have to go watch ice-hockey.
Well his wiki reads as if all he can do is score goals. Unfortunately football thanks to modern tactics has been relegated to a battle of strategy and strength. Very few teams really have that great blend of technical ability and sound strategy. Milan on their day have both. Arsenal mostly have the first, but not the second. Seeing Bolton under Big Sam was the reverse.
This footballing era sucks. Thank god for Pirlo and Kaka, otherwise I might even have to go watch
ice-hockey. hehe if you guys understood hockey and watched it enough you would love it. hey kurt is british and he loves hockey. edit sorry he's E-N-G-L-I-S-H
btw calling it ice-hockey sounds retarded, thats like saying outdoor football
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Oct 19 2007, 10:54 PM)
Shame about Van Persie, he'll be out for over a month...international matches be damned!
Yeah that is a real shame ... Especially with United and Liverpool around the corner ..
Still, Dudu will do good IMO
C'mon u Gunners
Thanks Rossoneri7.
By the way, Wenger has extended his contract 'till 2011, and there's work going on to sculpt a bronze bust of him to be placed beside the bust of Chapman...
By the way, Wenger has extended his contract 'till 2011, and there's work going on to sculpt a bronze bust of him to be placed beside the bust of Chapman...
Yup I heard about that and Arsene deserves more tbh
He didn't extend that contract for no reason
p.s. what is the situation with Lehmann ?! I know Wenger wants to keep the same side for the sake of continuity, but do u think he will leave ?!
He didn't extend that contract for no reason
p.s. what is the situation with Lehmann ?! I know Wenger wants to keep the same side for the sake of continuity, but do u think he will leave ?!
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Lerner: O'Neill would succeed for England
Aston Villa chairman Randy Lerner believes Martin O'Neill would make a great England manager.
The former Celtic and Leicester City manager was in the reckoning for the England post last year and is likely to be tipped for the job again should Steve McClaren leave.
McClaren's position is under scrutiny with England in danger of failing to qualify for Euro 2008.
"I have no doubt that he could be a highly-successful national coach," said American billionaire Lerner.
"I think what Martin has undoubtedly is very difficult to define - passion to lead and passion to compete. He is able to express his ideas very effectively and in a way which is very compelling.
"Martin is integral to our plans for Villa. If he left, it would leave us needing to get to work pretty quickly I suppose - but it is something I have never speculated upon.
"It is not unthinkable but it is something you do not want to spend too much time on because it is not something you can prepare for. It would have to be dealt with if and when it happened."
O'Neill took charge at Villa Park in the summer of 2006 shortly before Lerner completed his takeover of the club.
Lerner is impressed with the way O'Neill is steering the team in the Barclays Premier League but he insists he would not block his path should England call.
He said: "I would not stand in his way. I don't know if I necessarily have any great insight on that subject. That would be between Martin and the FA."
Premier League Official Site
Aston Villa chairman Randy Lerner believes Martin O'Neill would make a great England manager.
The former Celtic and Leicester City manager was in the reckoning for the England post last year and is likely to be tipped for the job again should Steve McClaren leave.
McClaren's position is under scrutiny with England in danger of failing to qualify for Euro 2008.
"I have no doubt that he could be a highly-successful national coach," said American billionaire Lerner.
"I think what Martin has undoubtedly is very difficult to define - passion to lead and passion to compete. He is able to express his ideas very effectively and in a way which is very compelling.
"Martin is integral to our plans for Villa. If he left, it would leave us needing to get to work pretty quickly I suppose - but it is something I have never speculated upon.
"It is not unthinkable but it is something you do not want to spend too much time on because it is not something you can prepare for. It would have to be dealt with if and when it happened."
O'Neill took charge at Villa Park in the summer of 2006 shortly before Lerner completed his takeover of the club.
Lerner is impressed with the way O'Neill is steering the team in the Barclays Premier League but he insists he would not block his path should England call.
He said: "I would not stand in his way. I don't know if I necessarily have any great insight on that subject. That would be between Martin and the FA."
Premier League Official Site
He was in the running last time, so he'll sure be one of the favourites this time round.
Villa comes before England, I'd rather England keep McClaren than take MON from us!
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 20 2007, 01:43 AM)
He was in the running last time, so he'll sure be one of the favourites this time round.
Villa comes before England, I'd rather England keep McClaren than take MON from us!
He's a good manager ... And I hope Villa keep him, cuz it wont be easy finding someone as motivated has him to keep Villa on it's current course.
With that said, there are numerous well experienced winning coaches out there. Off of the top of my head: Lippi, Mourinho (though he is not the man for knock-outs), Capello, etc .. These are the coaches without a job and England NT is a very appealing job atm.
The FA will undoubtedly fire McClaren once his team is officially knocked out of the qualifying .. Which might be as soon as England are knocked out, if so then O'Neill would be tied with Villa till the summer (at least). So in that sense, I don't see O'Neill leaving Villa
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 19 2007, 10:55 PM)
p.s. what is the situation with Lehmann ?! I know Wenger wants to keep the same side for the sake of continuity, but do u think he will leave ?!
Wenger will keep on playing Almunia, I really can't see Lehmann coming back.
He has used his little 'injury break' in the worst way imaginable; saying how Almunia "never has won anything important" and so on.
The guy sees himself as a pillar of the entire club and I hope Wenger will ship him off in January and bring on Jarstein as third choice keeper, advance Fabianski to second choice and stick with Almunia until Fabianski is ready.
Well, dst would be happy right now. It's halftime at the Merseyside derby and Everton lead the Scousers 1-0 through a Sami Hyypia own goal.
1-1. Hibbert sent off, Kuyt scores the penalty (I didn't see it myself)
Kuyt just made the most ridiculous two footed high tackle and should have been sent off!
Kuyt just made the most ridiculous two footed high tackle and should have been sent off!
Benitez needs the sak if Liverpool want any chance of winning the league any team soon.
You're drawing 1-1 against 10 men, so you bring Gerrard off and put on Lucas, a kid with zero experience. Genius.
You're drawing 1-1 against 10 men, so you bring Gerrard off and put on Lucas, a kid with zero experience. Genius.
Did Gerrard dive to get the penalty? Seems like he went down AWFULLY easily....
Last minute penalty, Phil Neville made an acrobatic save on the line in stoppage time.
Kuyt scores. Once again Liverpool cheat points out of opponents. Gunners for the title I hope. England don't need cheating shi!t like Liverpool or United representing our country
Kuyt scores. Once again Liverpool cheat points out of opponents. Gunners for the title I hope. England don't need cheating shi!t like Liverpool or United representing our country
Everton denied a blatent penalty in the last minute!
So it wasn't a penalty on Gerrard?
Liverpool won it. 3 points.
PS: Lucas Leiva >>> Momo Sissoko (good defending but can't pass)
Liverpool won it. 3 points.
PS: Lucas Leiva >>> Momo Sissoko (good defending but can't pass)
Lucky fops, Kuyt should have been sent off and Everton should have got a penalty at the end.
In situations like this, why the heck don't they use video evidence?
Those three points can make a huge difference at the end of the season.
In situations like this, why the heck don't they use video evidence?
Those three points can make a huge difference at the end of the season.
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Oct 20 2007, 01:47 PM)
Lucky fops, Kuyt should have been sent off and Everton should have got a penalty at the end.
In situations like this, why the heck don't they use video evidence?
Those three points can make a huge difference at the end of the season.
In situations like this, why the heck don't they use video evidence?
Those three points can make a huge difference at the end of the season.
The only in game video-evidence I'd agree with in goal-line stuff to see whether it crossed the line. If you bring too much it, it will ruin the game. It's what makes it the best sport in the World.
I wouldn't worry though Locke, Liverpool struggled to beat 9-men today, needed to cheat to even get a point. I'm sure you'll get 6 points off 'em this season, they're a major disappointment.
Boro 0-1 Chelsea. Drogba with the goal.
Man City keep up there superb home form 1-0 against Birmingham at the moment.
Man City keep up there superb home form 1-0 against Birmingham at the moment.
Arsenal 2-0 Bolton.
Absolute screamer from Toure and a...goal by Rosicky.
McCann has been acting like a complete psycho, but what the hee, we won.
Absolute screamer from Toure and a...goal by Rosicky.
McCann has been acting like a complete psycho, but what the hee, we won.
Villa 1 - 0 United.Very nice goal from Agbonlahor.
Go Villa...gabbi rocks...this time I'm not trying to pull Kurt's legs...
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