I do like that one too.EDIT: here is the link to the Chiellini vid. Very funny.
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I think it may even beat Rino chasing the guy around the parking lot. I do like that one too.
EDIT: here is the link to the Chiellini vid. Very funny.
I do like that one too.EDIT: here is the link to the Chiellini vid. Very funny.
What in the name of **** was that? Could anyone give a short explanation please?
Scherzi A Parte is a sort of celebrity candid camera show on Italian telly.
In this one, Chiellini goes to what he thinks is a book editor's office, thinking that the editor wants to write his biography. He's shown into the office early -- and instead of an editor, there's a parrot. Chiellini says some undiplomatic things ('what a crappy office', insults the photo of the editor's wife, talks about the hot photo of the secretary, etc), then the editor comes in. They start 'negotiations' and then the parrot starts 'talking' -- repeating what Chiellini said and then coming out with various anti-Juve sayings (called him a 'gobbo' at least once). The editor gets insulted, Chiellini apologizes and hilarity ensues.
In this one, Chiellini goes to what he thinks is a book editor's office, thinking that the editor wants to write his biography. He's shown into the office early -- and instead of an editor, there's a parrot. Chiellini says some undiplomatic things ('what a crappy office', insults the photo of the editor's wife, talks about the hot photo of the secretary, etc), then the editor comes in. They start 'negotiations' and then the parrot starts 'talking' -- repeating what Chiellini said and then coming out with various anti-Juve sayings (called him a 'gobbo' at least once). The editor gets insulted, Chiellini apologizes and hilarity ensues.
I've seen some Scherzi episodes before, Gattuso's and Panucci's among others, but even though I understood maybe 4% of this one the parrot kept cracking me up.
He didn't actually apologize, but he denied he had said those things, which, some of them he did say, but most were spoken by his freinds, who then left the office and Chiellini got all the blame. Classic. 
So in other news:
Robben probebly can still play at the WC It isn't as bad as expected.
I think he should aim on the knock out stage. The group stage is ours anyway
Robben probebly can still play at the WC
It isn't as bad as expected.I think he should aim on the knock out stage. The group stage is ours anyway
Pirlo could also play the knockout round, or even the 3rd match of the group stage.
so everyone is suddenly healing...
Drogba might play also... though, I find it very riskful decision?
Drogba might play also... though, I find it very riskful decision?
that's the show that made balotelli wear the rossoneri jersey
EDIT: that was striscia
EDIT: that was striscia
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jun 7 2010, 03:31 AM) 
that's the show that made balotelli wear the rossoneri jersey
No, that show is called Striscia la Notizia.
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jun 6 2010, 11:32 PM)
so everyone is suddenly healing...
Drogba might play also... though, I find it very riskful decision?
Drogba might play also... though, I find it very riskful decision?
I hope Drogba makes it. With Essian out he's probably the biggest name African player in the competition, so it'd be a shame if he was to miss the whole thing. Very risky though.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 7 2010, 04:16 AM)
I hope Drogba makes it. With Essian out he's probably the biggest name African player in the competition, so it'd be a shame if he was to miss the whole thing. Very risky though.
Don't forget Eto'o.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 7 2010, 03:31 AM)
Don't forget Eto'o.
I must admit I didn't even realise they were in it.
Eto'o is such a pr*ck, he came under some criticism from Roger Milla a while ago, saying Eto'o had, so far, done nothing special for Cameroon, and Eto'o replied by this sulk: "Maybe I should retire from the NT then. Considering my carreer I don't really need to be here".
That's national pride and commitment for you.
That's national pride and commitment for you.
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Jun 7 2010, 12:35 PM)
Eto'o is such a pr*ck, he came under some criticism from Roger Milla a while ago, saying Eto'o had, so far, done nothing special for Cameroon, and Eto'o replied by this sulk: "Maybe I should retire from the NT then. Considering my carreer I don't really need to be here".
That's national pride and commitment for you.
That's national pride and commitment for you.
The guy is such a cry baby, it's ridicilous. Because one person was critical to you, you are giving the f to your national team? Wtf, Milla is not NT coach and also not a player nowadays.
And you expect more from a nerazzurro?
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jun 7 2010, 03:45 PM)
And you expect more from a nerazzurro?
He already was a cry baby at Barça too, and who knows before that also...
Eto'o... brrrr... can't stand the guy
He chooses clubs which suits him well though
"And what about the magnificent rumour, recounted in The Observer this weekend, that Maradona selected Ariel Garcé - a journeyman defender with four caps (three back in 2003) to his name - because he had a dream that Argentina had won the World Cup, and Garcé's face was the only one he could remember. "
--That's hilarious.. Argentina winning the World Cup?
--That's hilarious.. Argentina winning the World Cup?
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 7 2010, 06:59 PM)
--That's hilarious.. Argentina winning the World Cup?
That's indeed hilarious.
You need a reliable coach to win the World Cup, Maradona is far FAR from this.
That's a shame really, Argentina have a lot of quality players but the idiot goes and picks up Palermo and friends.
Too early to say. You know..I'm a little suspicious about Argentina. They've got a great team, and Maradona might have left people shocked at his exclusions, but the fact is his core team has remained the same for a long long time now- unlike Italy/England/France. I can only think of Spain where the composition has been so uniform. They just might be waiting to peak.
Isn't half (or over) of Italy's team is the same from 2006?
Yes...but the dynamics have all changed. Different fullbacks..weaker defence, no big forward, no Pirlo etc.
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Jun 8 2010, 07:02 AM)
Isn't half (or over) of Italy's team is the same from 2006?
Not really. There are only 9 WC winners out of 23 players.
Nani to miss the WC as well. They're falling like flies.
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 8 2010, 05:52 AM)
Too early to say. You know..I'm a little suspicious about Argentina. They've got a great team, and Maradona might have left people shocked at his exclusions, but the fact is his core team has remained the same for a long long time now- unlike Italy/England/France. I can only think of Spain where the composition has been so uniform. They just might be waiting to peak.
Depends what you mean by core or how far back you go. if anything the main reason people hate the FA is because it's the same players getting picked over and over. We pretty much have the same team all the time.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 8 2010, 02:31 PM)
Nani to miss the WC as well. They're falling like flies.
He won't be missed. He's a pretty average player most the time.
So, even though Kurt may want to throw things at me (or the tv), others who have access to streams from the US version of ESPN Classic may want to take note. Tomorrow (june 9) they'll be showing classic games from the past including both the 1986 and 1998 England-Argentina games (1998 at 6.30 eastern; 1986 at 10.30 eastern.) If you aren't old enough to have watched Maradona in his prime, the latter game may be worth tivo'ing or staying up for (it's got the hand of god goal in it).
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jun 8 2010, 07:20 PM)
So, even though Kurt may want to throw things at me (or the tv), others who have access to streams from the US version of ESPN Classic may want to take note. Tomorrow (june 9) they'll be showing classic games from the past including both the 1986 and 1998 England-Argentina games (1998 at 6.30 eastern; 1986 at 10.30 eastern.) If you aren't old enough to have watched Maradona in his prime, the latter game may be worth tivo'ing or staying up for (it's got the hand of god goal in it).
oooo I have that channel, I think I might just check it out, just to watch England lose
If you want to see why Beckham was burned in effigy, watch the 1998 game at 6.30 eastern. That one was entertaining to watch, from a more or less neutral pov.
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jun 8 2010, 07:36 PM)
If you want to see why Beckham was burned in effigy, watch the 1998 game at 6.30 eastern. That one was entertaining to watch, from a more or less neutral pov.
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jun 8 2010, 07:20 PM)
So, even though Kurt may want to throw things at me (or the tv), others who have access to streams from the US version of ESPN Classic may want to take note. Tomorrow (june 9) they'll be showing classic games from the past including both the 1986 and 1998 England-Argentina games (1998 at 6.30 eastern; 1986 at 10.30 eastern.) If you aren't old enough to have watched Maradona in his prime, the latter game may be worth tivo'ing or staying up for (it's got the hand of god goal in it).
Ha, I don't mind.
Funnily enough I've just been watching ESPN Classic, a replay of the '66 Final with Martin Peters and George Cohen.
Obviously we aren't happy about it, but we don't really care all that much anymore, given the most recent games:
Argentina 2-3 England - Epic biased commentary for our 2 last minute goals.
Argentina 0-1 England - Redemption for Becks.
Spain played Poland in a friendly today. FT Spain 6-0 Poland. Six different scorers (Villa, Silva, Xabi Alonso, Fabregas, Torres, and Pedro).
That is fairly impressive.
Guys in the UK, ESPN (us) has signed Martin Tyler as lead commentator for the World Cup. Is he any good or should I listen to the games in Spanish?
I think Tyler is the best commentator in English football personally. He usually does the Sunday afternoon commentary with Andy Gray on Sky Sports, I'm sure you'd recognise his voice.
So...don't fuss with listening in Spanish, then? (Long as Andy Grey doesn't come along, him I don't like.)
(Long as Andy Grey doesn't come along, him I don't like.)
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jun 9 2010, 04:16 AM)
So...don't fuss with listening in Spanish, then? (Long as Andy Grey doesn't come along, him I don't like.)
(Long as Andy Grey doesn't come along, him I don't like.)Yeah, I'd at least listen to him a few times. If you don't like him you can always listen the Spanish commentary for the latter games.
Not always a big fan of the "If Carlsberg.." adverts, but I think this England Team Talk one is really good.
You should listen to them in Spanish anyways, at least you'd get some emotion in the narration 
.
It's funny, when I see a goal, I want somebody to yell "GOOOOOOL" at the top of their lungs. When I listen to english narrations, all I get is "Ooh, that was absolutely fantastic." Every time too, it's like they only know three adjectives (fantastic, brilliant, incredible), and one adverb (absolutely.)
...and they always have to moan before making a comment!
"Ooh, that was a brilliant play."
"Oooooh, absolutely incredible save by the keeper!"
"Ooooooooooh, fantastic defending right there."
. It's funny, when I see a goal, I want somebody to yell "GOOOOOOL" at the top of their lungs. When I listen to english narrations, all I get is "Ooh, that was absolutely fantastic." Every time too, it's like they only know three adjectives (fantastic, brilliant, incredible), and one adverb (absolutely.)
...and they always have to moan before making a comment!
"Ooh, that was a brilliant play."
"Oooooh, absolutely incredible save by the keeper!"
"Ooooooooooh, fantastic defending right there."
Spanish commentary is awful.
Whenever I watch online streams I'll mute it. I prefer commentary from Asia personally.
Martin Tyler > Any commentator you can think of
The irony. The reason people usually don't like English commentary is because they do show emotion, apparently it's biased.
Talking of biased. Not long after UEFA fucked English teams over, over and over. We got this completely unbiased bit of commentary when Villa knocked Inter out of the UEFA Cup on penalties. Keegan likes Villa
Whenever I watch online streams I'll mute it. I prefer commentary from Asia personally.
Martin Tyler > Any commentator you can think of
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at least you'd get some emotion in the narration
The irony. The reason people usually don't like English commentary is because they do show emotion, apparently it's biased.
Talking of biased. Not long after UEFA fucked English teams over, over and over. We got this completely unbiased bit of commentary when Villa knocked Inter out of the UEFA Cup on penalties. Keegan likes Villa
Oh you're a brit, you're biased towards english commentators. 
I am talking, of course, about latin american spanish, though. No idea how them Spaniards do it.
EDIT: Oh come on, Man U just scored the CL winning goal and he never once utters the word goal!
Try this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWdmxuU_igY...feature=related
I am talking, of course, about latin american spanish, though. No idea how them Spaniards do it.
EDIT: Oh come on, Man U just scored the CL winning goal and he never once utters the word goal!
Try this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWdmxuU_igY...feature=related
My Spanish is pretty bad, though. It's getting better (I do speak Italian and am picking things up cos of that). The Italian commentators (mostly) are quite good. Only problem is, when a game gets really interesting and cool stuff happens, they start talking so quickly that I don't know how anyone can understand them!
Oh, and ESPN (Us version) has also hired a couple of interesting talking heads for World Cup coverage: Jurgen Klinsmann and Ruud Gullit.
Oh, and ESPN (Us version) has also hired a couple of interesting talking heads for World Cup coverage: Jurgen Klinsmann and Ruud Gullit.
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jun 9 2010, 03:34 AM)
Guys in the UK, ESPN (us) has signed Martin Tyler as lead commentator for the World Cup. Is he any good or should I listen to the games in Spanish?
Isn't he the Fifa 09/10 commentator?
I personally like English commentary because I can actually understand it
But I can't stand Andy Gray and his Liverpool/Man U bias.I'll probably watch Italian/Maltese commentary since I'd have to pay for the sports package on cable to watch it in English. Which is not worth it.
As for the GOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL thing the Spanish and Portugese do when anyone scores a goal, I find it incredibly annoying
^^How is Gooooolllll any worse than the Italians orgasming screaming 'Retteeeeeee....Rettteeee!' (spell?)
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 9 2010, 01:29 PM)
^^How is Gooooolllll any worse than the Italians orgasming screaming 'Retteeeeeee....Rettteeee!' (spell?)
It's still not the long drawn out GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
At least rete is made up of more then 1 syllable
Holding out GOOOOLLL until out of breath is pretty much the greatest sports announcement ever. If a game is televised in Spanish (these will be of course), I watch the Spanish version. I can only understand about 25% of the conversation, but they are so much more into the match it is far better than understanding the whole conversation.
(from msn)
QUOTE
Bet on it: England, U.S. ambassadors wager on World Cup clash
Leaked diplomatic correspondence between Washington and London has revealed the latest bump in the so-called “special relationship” -- a high stakes wager between ambassadors over the outcome of their teams’ World Cup clash, The Times writes in its Wednesday edition.
Louis Susman, the American Ambassador to London, approached his British counterpart in Washington through a staff intermediary to offer a bet on the outcome of Saturday’s game between England and the United States.
“We will understand if you decline, given the outcome of the last such encounter,” Philip Breeden, the American press secretary in London gibed.
Martin Longden, his counterpart in Washington, protested ignorance. “Since the history of English football is long and extensive, in contradistinction to U.S. soccer, I regret that I cannot immediately recall the encounter to which you refer.
"No doubt it is remembered fondly on these shores; we have quite forgotten it, however.”
Longden proposed the terms of the wager: dinner at a Washington DC steakhouse if England triumphs; supper at a London pub on Ambassador Nigel Sheinwald’s dime if the U.S. is the winner.
Breeden accepted, reminding Longden of the outcome of last Anglo-American encounter at the World Cup: a 1-0 victory for the U.S. in Brazil.
Longden would not be deterred. “You should know that the Ambassador takes his steak like American soccer victories — somewhat rare,” he retorted.
AT STAKE IS A STEAK: The e-mails in full:
From: Philip Breeden, US Embassy London
To: Martin Longden, British Embassy Washington DC
Subject: World Cup Bet
Mr. Longden, It has not escaped our attention that a certain sporting event is fast approaching, and that our respective nations will soon be meeting on the fields of South Africa.
My Ambassador has asked me to see if your Ambassador might be interested in a small wager? We will understand if you decline, given the outcome of the last such encounter.
Sincerely, Philip Breeden, U.S. Embassy, London
________________________________
From: Martin Longden, British Embassy Washington DC
To: Philip Breeden, US Embassy London
Subject: Re: World Cup Bet
Mr. Breeden,
Even for such an exceptionally optimistic nation as the United States, I am struck by the confidence with which your Ambassador proposes this wager. It is testament, I assume, to the generosity of your great nation - since the British Ambassador does not anticipate paying out.
Your email does not specify the exact terms of the wager. May I suggest that, in the event of an England victory, the US Ambassador agrees to entertain the British Ambassador at a steak-house of his choosing in downtown DC? And in the event that the United States is able to engineer a fortuitous win over England, then my man will entertain yours at a London pub of his choosing. Loser pays.
Your reference to a previous sporting encounter between our two countries puzzles me. Since the history of English football is long and extensive, in contradistinction to US soccer, I regret that I cannot immediately recall the encounter to which you refer. No doubt it is remembered fondly on these shores; we have quite forgotten it, however.
Are you sure you want to do this?
Yours sincerely, Martin Longden British Embassy Washington DC
________________________________
From: Philip Breeden, US Embassy London
To: Martin Longden, British Embassy Washington DC
Subject: Re: World Cup Bet
Mr. Longden ,
It is with great pleasure, and no small measure of anticipation, that the U.S. Ambassador accepts the terms of the wager. I am surprised, given the well known love of the British for history, that you have forgotten what happened the last time the “special relationship” was tested on the pitch. Of course, given the result, you are to be forgiven for having misplaced that particular episode in your memory banks. I refer of course to the victory of the U.S. over England in the 1950 World Cup.
It is true that our soccer (a fine English word we have kindly preserved for you) history is not as long and illustrious as yours. However, as your generals noted during WWII, we have a unique capability for quickly identifying and advancing talent.
Game on!
Sincerely, Philip Breeden
________________________________
From: Martin Longden, British Embassy Washington DC
To: Philip Breeden, US Embassy London
Subject: Re: World Cup Bet
Mr. Breeden,
Very well; it’s a bet!
Incidentally, you should know that the Ambassador takes his steak like American soccer victories - somewhat rare.
Sincerely,
Martin Longden
Leaked diplomatic correspondence between Washington and London has revealed the latest bump in the so-called “special relationship” -- a high stakes wager between ambassadors over the outcome of their teams’ World Cup clash, The Times writes in its Wednesday edition.
Louis Susman, the American Ambassador to London, approached his British counterpart in Washington through a staff intermediary to offer a bet on the outcome of Saturday’s game between England and the United States.
“We will understand if you decline, given the outcome of the last such encounter,” Philip Breeden, the American press secretary in London gibed.
Martin Longden, his counterpart in Washington, protested ignorance. “Since the history of English football is long and extensive, in contradistinction to U.S. soccer, I regret that I cannot immediately recall the encounter to which you refer.
"No doubt it is remembered fondly on these shores; we have quite forgotten it, however.”
Longden proposed the terms of the wager: dinner at a Washington DC steakhouse if England triumphs; supper at a London pub on Ambassador Nigel Sheinwald’s dime if the U.S. is the winner.
Breeden accepted, reminding Longden of the outcome of last Anglo-American encounter at the World Cup: a 1-0 victory for the U.S. in Brazil.
Longden would not be deterred. “You should know that the Ambassador takes his steak like American soccer victories — somewhat rare,” he retorted.
AT STAKE IS A STEAK: The e-mails in full:
From: Philip Breeden, US Embassy London
To: Martin Longden, British Embassy Washington DC
Subject: World Cup Bet
Mr. Longden, It has not escaped our attention that a certain sporting event is fast approaching, and that our respective nations will soon be meeting on the fields of South Africa.
My Ambassador has asked me to see if your Ambassador might be interested in a small wager? We will understand if you decline, given the outcome of the last such encounter.
Sincerely, Philip Breeden, U.S. Embassy, London
________________________________
From: Martin Longden, British Embassy Washington DC
To: Philip Breeden, US Embassy London
Subject: Re: World Cup Bet
Mr. Breeden,
Even for such an exceptionally optimistic nation as the United States, I am struck by the confidence with which your Ambassador proposes this wager. It is testament, I assume, to the generosity of your great nation - since the British Ambassador does not anticipate paying out.
Your email does not specify the exact terms of the wager. May I suggest that, in the event of an England victory, the US Ambassador agrees to entertain the British Ambassador at a steak-house of his choosing in downtown DC? And in the event that the United States is able to engineer a fortuitous win over England, then my man will entertain yours at a London pub of his choosing. Loser pays.
Your reference to a previous sporting encounter between our two countries puzzles me. Since the history of English football is long and extensive, in contradistinction to US soccer, I regret that I cannot immediately recall the encounter to which you refer. No doubt it is remembered fondly on these shores; we have quite forgotten it, however.
Are you sure you want to do this?
Yours sincerely, Martin Longden British Embassy Washington DC
________________________________
From: Philip Breeden, US Embassy London
To: Martin Longden, British Embassy Washington DC
Subject: Re: World Cup Bet
Mr. Longden ,
It is with great pleasure, and no small measure of anticipation, that the U.S. Ambassador accepts the terms of the wager. I am surprised, given the well known love of the British for history, that you have forgotten what happened the last time the “special relationship” was tested on the pitch. Of course, given the result, you are to be forgiven for having misplaced that particular episode in your memory banks. I refer of course to the victory of the U.S. over England in the 1950 World Cup.
It is true that our soccer (a fine English word we have kindly preserved for you) history is not as long and illustrious as yours. However, as your generals noted during WWII, we have a unique capability for quickly identifying and advancing talent.
Game on!
Sincerely, Philip Breeden
________________________________
From: Martin Longden, British Embassy Washington DC
To: Philip Breeden, US Embassy London
Subject: Re: World Cup Bet
Mr. Breeden,
Very well; it’s a bet!
Incidentally, you should know that the Ambassador takes his steak like American soccer victories - somewhat rare.
Sincerely,
Martin Longden
QUOTE (Linkman @ Jun 9 2010, 06:38 AM)
Oh you're a brit, you're biased towards english commentators.
I am talking, of course, about latin american spanish, though.
I am talking, of course, about latin american spanish, though.
...says someone from Chile.
I think somebody screaming and being lost for words is a bit more passionate than the repetitive 'gol' shout that Spanish speakers do.
As a neutral speaking, I prefer the Italian version, by FAR. There's few things uglier than some rasping taco-voice killing their mic with repeated "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" 's
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Jun 9 2010, 07:38 PM)
As a neutral speaking, I prefer the Italian version, by FAR. There's few things uglier than some rasping taco-voice killing their mic with repeated "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" 's
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