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Jack Sparrow
^^^

laugh.gif For a second I thought you meant Milan. I read through Pot 4 twice looking for AC Milan.
Habitant
we couldd potentially get a very tough group, with 2-3 quality opponents.
acid911
QUOTE (Habitant @ Oct 3 2008, 09:31 PM) *
we couldd potentially get a very tough group, with 2-3 quality opponents.

Which is never a bad thing, IMHO. wink.gif If you have to win a competition, win it by beating quality teams!
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 3 2008, 12:00 PM) *
^^^

laugh.gif For a second I thought you meant Milan. I read through Pot 4 twice looking for AC Milan.

Twice Captain...jeez! laugh.gif
I mean I feel for it the first time as well...but as I came across Villa I instantly remember it was Kurt, so I put 2 and 2 together.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 3 2008, 12:36 PM) *
Which is never a bad thing, IMHO. wink.gif If you have to win a competition, win it by beating quality teams!

+1 I couldn't have said it better...
Besides were a CL quality side that just happened to turn up to the wrong tournament this time, thats all. huh.gif
No excuses!!! (theres no side 'too' tough for us)
acid911
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Oct 3 2008, 09:52 PM) *
Twice Captain...jeez!
I mean I feel for it the first time as well...but as I came across Villa I instantly remember it was Kurt, so I put 2 and 2 together.

Pirates aren't particularly good with maths. tongue.gif For them 2 and 2 together is 22.

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Oct 3 2008, 09:54 PM) *
+1 I couldn't have said it better...
Besides were a CL quality side that just happened to turn up to the wrong tournament this time, thats all.
No excuses!!! (theres no side 'too' tough for us)

Exactly. cool.gif No team was too tough for us when we were in the Champions League, more so seeing that we're the number one ranked club in the world. Same should be the case in the UEFA Cup. Like you put: No excuses!
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 3 2008, 01:15 PM) *
Pirates aren't particularly good with maths. tongue.gif For them 2 and 2 together is 22.

Ohh I see. ohmy.gif wink.gif
LOL - now it makes sense! laugh.gif
Locke Lamora
QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 3 2008, 07:15 PM) *
seeing that we're the number one ranked club in the world. Same should be the case in the UEFA Cup. Like you put: No excuses!


Not anymore, Boca has pulled level.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 3 2008, 04:00 PM) *
^^^

laugh.gif For a second I thought you meant Milan. I read through Pot 4 twice looking for AC Milan.

laugh.gif

QUOTE (Habitant @ Oct 3 2008, 04:31 PM) *
we couldd potentially get a very tough group, with 2-3 quality opponents.



QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 3 2008, 04:36 PM) *
Which is never a bad thing, IMHO. wink.gif If you have to win a competition, win it by beating quality teams!

Yep, the sooner the team gets into the habit of putting in 100% against good teams the better. you don't want an easy road to the SFs or something where you haven't had to do much, then some other team is already in the grove of things while you still aren't prepared to play properly.

I would actually like Milan and Villa to be drawn in the same group. Since the top 3 go through, I don't think us having one top team would hurt too much. We'd lose to Milan for sure, but I'm hardly scared of most of the teams in pots 2 and 3, only a few we'd struggle against I think. Hopefully it's played at Villa Park too, so I can get to see Milan at last! biggrin.gif
acid911
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Oct 3 2008, 11:46 PM) *
Not anymore, Boca has pulled level.

True, but we still were the number one team in UEFA standings the last time I checked. biggrin.gif That's good enough for me!
dst
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Oct 3 2008, 09:46 PM) *
Not anymore, Boca has pulled level.

??? What? When did that happen? Anyway it's for the better, now we'll remove that silly tag...
Locke Lamora
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 4 2008, 02:06 PM) *
??? What? When did that happen? Anyway it's for the better, now we'll remove that silly tag...


They won their 4th Recopa Sudamericana in august.
Darunia
QUOTE
Tottenham Hotspur may be bottom of the Premier League but they find themselves among the top-rated teams for Tuesday's UEFA Cup group stage draw.

The north Londoners are in Pot 1 alongside six-times European champions AC Milan, 2006 and 2007 UEFA Cup winners Sevilla, 2004 winners Valencia and 2005 champions CSKA Moscow.

Portuguese giants Benfica, German side Schalke - UEFA Cup winners in 1997 - and Hamburg round off the top pool.

Manchester City are in Pot 3 alongside Rosenborg, Udinese, Feyenoord, Braga, Slavia Prague, Galatasaray and Sampdoria, while Portsmouth and Aston Villa are in the fourth pot with Hertha Berlin, Partizan Belgrade, Nancy, Racing Santander, FC Copenhagen and Dinamo Zagreb.

Standard Liege, who dropped into the UEFA Cup after losing to Liverpool in the Champions League qualifiers, are in the fifth pot despite knocking Everton out of the competition in the first round last week.

UEFA have stated that teams from the same country will not be drawn together into the same group.

There will be eight groups of five teams, with each team playing two home games and two away games. The top three teams from each group progress to the knockout stage, where they are joined by the eight teams finishing third in the Champions League group phase to make up the last 32.

Draw takes place at 11am on Tuesday, October 7th.

POT 1: AC Milan (ITA), Sevilla (ESP), Valencia (ESP), Benfica (POR), Schalke 04 (GER), CSKA Moscow (RUS), Tottenham Hotspur (ENG), Hamburg (GER)

POT 2: VfB Stuttgart (GER), Ajax (NED), Olympiacos (GRE), Deportivo La Coruna (ESP), Club Brugge (BEL), Spartak Moscow (RUS), Paris Saint-Germain (FRA), SC Heerenveen (NED)

POT 3: Rosenborg (NOR), Udinese (ITA), Feyenoord (NED), SC Braga (POR), Slavia Prague (CZE), Manchester City (ENG), Galatasaray (TUR), Sampdoria (ITA)

POT 4: Hertha Berlin (GER), Partizan Belgrade (SRB), AS Nancy (FRA), Portsmouth (ENG), Aston Villa (ENG), Racing Santander (ESP), FC Copenhagen (DEN), Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)

POT 5: Saint-Etienne (FRA), VfL Wolfsburg (GER), Standard Liege (BEL), FC Twente (NED), NEC Nijmegen (NED), FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR), Lech Poznan (POL), MSK Zilina (SVK)



Psh.. they need to get it right.
acid911
dry.gif Bumbling bumblebees! I still believe it was eight times: Oh, Istanbul!
vahid


An average group!
Devillito
That's not looking good dry.gif
Playin with such team, with Carlo playing 2DMFs,
and all the hype and expectation to see a giant winning,
a panic button and Bob is your uncle..

Well, lets hope for a tactical reshuffle.
Carlo simply need to step up. Kaka too.
R80 too. Pato too. Urgh, everyone for that matter!!
acid911
QUOTE (vahid @ Oct 7 2008, 07:18 PM) *
An average group!

You can say that again! wink.gif I wanted Villa in the group stages!
Tennie
So, Milan won their game. smile.gif

Here are the full results for today:

Matchday 1 - 23 October 2008

Schalke 3-1 PSG
Twente 1-0 Racing
Galatasaray 1-0 Olympiacos
Hertha 1-1 Benfica (Di Maria with the Benfica goal)
Sevilla 2-0 Stuttgart
Partizan 1-2 Sampdoria smile.gif
Udinese 2-0 Tottenham 96.gif (Di Natale and Pepe goals. Spurs were dreadful).
Dinamo Zagreb 3-2 NEC smile.gif
Heerenveen 1-3 Milan 96.gif 96.gif 96.gif
Braga 3-0 Portsmouth
Žilina 1-2 Hamburg (Hamburg goals by the Croatian strikers Petric and Olic)
Aston Villa 2-1 Ajax smile.gif (Villa goals by Laursen and Barry)
København 1-3 St Etienne
Rosenborg 0-0 Club Brugge
CSKA Moskva 3-0 Deportivo
Nancy 3-0 Feyenoord
Habitant
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 24 2008, 12:28 AM) *
So, Milan won their game. smile.gif

Here are the full results for today:

Matchday 1 - 23 October 2008

Schalke 3-1 PSG
Twente 1-0 Racing
Galatasaray 1-0 Olympiacos
Hertha 1-1 Benfica (Di Maria with the Benfica goal)
Sevilla 2-0 Stuttgart
Partizan 1-2 Sampdoria smile.gif
Udinese 2-0 Tottenham 96.gif (Di Natale and Pepe goals. Spurs were dreadful).
Dinamo Zagreb 3-2 NEC smile.gif
Heerenveen 1-3 Milan 96.gif 96.gif 96.gif
Braga 3-0 Portsmouth
Žilina 1-2 Hamburg (Hamburg goals by the Croatian strikers Petric and Olic)
Aston Villa 2-1 Ajax smile.gif (Villa goals by Laursen and Barry)
København 1-3 St Etienne
Rosenborg 0-0 Club Brugge
CSKA Moskva 3-0 Deportivo
Nancy 3-0 Feyenoord

ohmy.gif i have a buddy who is a braga fan, he must be delighted.
kurtsimonw
Slavia Prague 0-1 Villa, Carew. We made alot of changes to the team, dropping the likes of Friedel, Laursen, L Young, Barry, Milner and Petrov from the team but a really good result. Brad Guzan was simply outstanding in goal, made 2 or 3 top class saves, good stuff.

Spurs won 4-0, Bent hat-trick and Huddlestone.

Man City beat Steve McClarens FC Twente 3-2, great goals from Robinho and SWP included.
acid911
acid911
QUOTE (Habitant @ Oct 24 2008, 07:30 AM) *
i have a buddy who is a braga fan, he must be delighted.

I bet he isn't too delighted now, is he? rolleyes.gif A goal in the 93rd minute, baby, a la inter!
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 22 2008, 07:20 PM) *
This made me laugh for some reason. Imagine us going to the final there again, even though it's not the CL I would still hope that we could win a final there. Or maybe the stadium is cursed for us

Um, actually there are two stadiums in Istanbul. huh.gif This one isn't that one, it's a smaller capacity (50,000 versus the 70,000 seater in that game against Livepool), and one solely built for football as opposed to football and athletics. Plus, it's the home of Fenerbahçe, and is on the UEFA 5-star stadium list, so I'm not complaining:



On a related note, I'm surprised to see England only has one UEFA 5-star stadium. biggrin.gif The Old Trafford. Wonder why is that, there should be a couple more, at least. Italy has two (the obvious ones), and both Germany and Spain have five stadiums each on the list. Skittles, Portugal has three of them, for Pete's sake.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 17 2008, 09:18 AM) *
On a related note, I'm surprised to see England only has one UEFA 5-star stadium. biggrin.gif The Old Trafford.

Wembley and the Eimirites aren't 5-star? unsure.gif
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 17 2008, 06:14 PM) *
Wembley and the Eimirites aren't 5-star?

Nope. smile.gif And I was really surprised to see that today. I'd have expected at least 3-4, if not more in the top, seeing as both Germany and Spain has them. Even Portugal has three, and from first sight they don't come across as overly big or famous when compared to Wembley and Emirates. Shtick, even Scotland has two. So does Turkey.

kurtsimonw
I think there must be a mistake with that then, because the 4-star rated stadia in England are: Villa Park, Anfield, St. Mary's Stadium, the Stadium of Light and the City of Manchester Stadiu. I just can't see Wembley or the Eimirites being any lower than that. unsure.gif

laugh.gif @ St. James' Park not even being the highest rated stadium in the North East! biggrin.gif
LaPalma
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 17 2008, 02:49 PM) *
I think there must be a mistake with that then, because the 4-star rated stadia in England are: Villa Park, Anfield, St. Mary's Stadium, the Stadium of Light and the City of Manchester Stadiu. I just can't see Wembley or the Eimirites being any lower than that. unsure.gif

laugh.gif @ St. James' Park not even being the highest rated stadium in the North East! biggrin.gif

Especially since the new Wembley is known as the best football stadium in the world blink.gif It was five times as expensive as the Allianz Arena in Munich.....has to be highest category.
Milan Are Brilliant
Yeah that's got to be wrong the new Wembley is one of the most prestigious in the game now.

I mean it certainly beats most of the ones listed.
kurtsimonw
UEFA Cup - Group A

FC Twente Enschede 2 - 1 Schalke
Manchester C. 0 - 0 Paris S.G.


UEFA Cup - Group B

Hertha BSC 0 - 1 Galatasaray
Metalist Kharkiv 1 - 0 Olympiakos Piraeus


UEFA Cup - Group C

Sevilla 3 - 0 Partizan Belgrade
Standard Liege 3 - 0 Sampdoria


UEFA Cup - Group D

Spartak Moscow 1 - 2 NEC Nijmegen
Udinese 2 - 1 Dinamo Zagreb
kurtsimonw
UEFA Cup - Group E

SC Heerenveen 1 - 2 Braga
Wolfsburg 3 - 2 Portsmouth


UEFA Cup - Group F

Aston Villa 1 - 2 Zilina
Slavia Prague 0 - 2 Hamburger SV


UEFA Cup - Group G

FC Copenhagen 1 - 1 Rosenborg
Valencia 1 - 1 Club Brugge


UEFA Cup - Group H

Lech Poznan 1 - 1 Deportivo La Coruna
Nancy 3 - 4 CSKA Moscow

Can't believe we lost tonight. Zilina had about 2 attempts on goal. rolleyes.gif

The most amazing thing though, is the referees incompetence in the game. Ashley Young was fouled about 8/9 times, 6 or 7 was from behind.. 1 red card? What a joke.

On a brighter note for us. Nathan Delfouneso scored on his full debut, he's only 17 and it was a great 20 yard volley. Had this been a 17 year old from Barca, Liverpool, etc. you'd be hearing about he's the next Pele. rolleyes.gif
Habitant
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 5 2008, 12:14 AM) *
UEFA Cup - Group E

SC Heerenveen 1 - 2 Braga
Wolfsburg 3 - 2 Portsmouth


UEFA Cup - Group F

Aston Villa 1 - 2 Zilina
Slavia Prague 0 - 2 Hamburger SV


UEFA Cup - Group G

FC Copenhagen 1 - 1 Rosenborg
Valencia 1 - 1 Club Brugge


UEFA Cup - Group H

Lech Poznan 1 - 1 Deportivo La Coruna
Nancy 3 - 4 CSKA Moscow

Can't believe we lost tonight. Zilina had about 2 attempts on goal. rolleyes.gif

The most amazing thing though, is the referees incompetence in the game. Ashley Young was fouled about 8/9 times, 6 or 7 was from behind.. 1 red card? What a joke.

On a brighter note for us. Nathan Delfouneso scored on his full debut, he's only 17 and it was a great 20 yard volley. Had this been a 17 year old from Barca, Liverpool, etc. you'd be hearing about he's the next Pele. rolleyes.gif

ya i encountered him when i was managing leeds, i was raiding everyone's youth academies devilsmiley.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Habitant @ Dec 4 2008, 11:21 PM) *
ya i encountered him when i was managing leeds, i was raiding everyone's youth academies devilsmiley.gif

Stop stealing our kids! dry.gif

Anyways, the standings as of now:

MizNelson
Milan have dropped to second in UEFA Cup Group E as a David James error helped Wolfsburg secure a thrilling 3-2 victory over Portsmouth.

The Rossoneri are guaranteed to progress to the last 32 after rescuing a 2-2 draw with Portsmouth last week.

But Italian-inspired German outfit Wolfsburg have taken control in Group E after a dramatic win over Pompey in a five-goal thriller.

The Bundesliga side led through Edin Dzeko in just the third minute but Jermain Defoe levelled eight minutes later.

Portsmouth led through Arnold Mvuemba, but Christian Gentner equalised.

An error from Portsmouth goalkeeper David James proved costly as Zvjezdan Misimovic was left with an open goal and he clinched the three points.

The result ensures that Portsmouth are out of the UEFA Cup after Portuguese side Braga saw off hapless Heerenveen 2-1.

Milan have the chance to win the group when they host Wolfsburg on December 17.

(Channel 4)

James has always had a nasty habit of doing that. When we played them, he was way out of his penalty area and was saved only by Pippo chipping the ball onto the top of the net.
LaPalma
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Dec 5 2008, 04:50 AM) *
Milan have dropped to second in UEFA Cup Group E as a David James error helped Wolfsburg secure a thrilling 3-2 victory over Portsmouth.

The Rossoneri are guaranteed to progress to the last 32 after rescuing a 2-2 draw with Portsmouth last week.

But Italian-inspired German outfit Wolfsburg have taken control in Group E after a dramatic win over Pompey in a five-goal thriller.

The Bundesliga side led through Edin Dzeko in just the third minute but Jermain Defoe levelled eight minutes later.

Portsmouth led through Arnold Mvuemba, but Christian Gentner equalised.

An error from Portsmouth goalkeeper David James proved costly as Zvjezdan Misimovic was left with an open goal and he clinched the three points.

The result ensures that Portsmouth are out of the UEFA Cup after Portuguese side Braga saw off hapless Heerenveen 2-1.

Milan have the chance to win the group when they host Wolfsburg on December 17.

(Channel 4)

James has always had a nasty habit of doing that. When we played them, he was way out of his penalty area and was saved only by Pippo chipping the ball onto the top of the net.

Ahhh....Misimovic...what a player. I miss the times when he played for Bochum. A brilliant football player. Wolfsburg vs. Milan is gonna be an interesting match IMO.
kurtsimonw
Well, I'm not looking forward to the game against Hamburg tomorrow.. As we're already through to the last 32, we've decided to rest a few players. Gareth Barry, James Milner, Gabby Agbonlahor, Ashley Young and Martin Laursen haven't even travelled with the squad, Freddie Bouma and John Carew are still out with injury, so this leaves us playing with practically a reserve side.

On the bright side, we've called up 6 of our youth prospects for the game, I don't think any of them will play, but I'm sure the experience of training with some of the first team can dono harm.

Prediction: Hamburg 3-1 Villa
Fillipo Simone
Are you sure Kurt?

My prediction - 2:2
Hope Milan avoids Villa.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 16 2008, 09:03 PM) *
Are you sure Kurt?

My prediction - 2:2
Hope Milan avoids Villa.

I think our style of play suits playing in Europe, particularly away from home.. but that's 6 important players we aren't taking, and in all seriousness we don't have the biggest strongest/squad in the World to cope with it in my opinion.

If Hamburg/Villa is a draw and Ajax win, or Hamburg beat Villa and Ajax win/draw. Combined with a Milan win, it could very well be Milan vs Villa in the last 32. I also don't want that to happen! Istanbul maybe? biggrin.gif
Tennie
Until the final at least, Fillipo. If they meet in the final, I can wear my jersey and fishdoll can wear his flying antlers. biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
As I expected, Hamburg are beating us quite comfortabley (2-0 at the half). But regardless of todays score I'm going to try and not get all worked up about it, in the last 32 of the UEFA Cup while playing a team of reserves in 3 of the games is a decent acheivment for us, hell, getting into the last 32 of the UEFA Cup playing your best team is an acheivement. Hope some of the youth players get a run out.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 16 2008, 08:59 PM) *
Prediction: Hamburg 3-1 Villa

Spot on.

Though the scoreline, and the game was a bit harsh on us. At 2-0 down, their keeper goes in two-footed on Craig Gardner, should have been sent off and a penalty given. Then at probably 2-1 and againt 10 men we'd have a good chance. But no, the referee decides to play on while half of our team is attending to Gardner on the floor, they break and score to make it 3-0. Nathan Delfouneso get his 2nd goal in 2 starts for the club, great future ahead of him. Then to top of the excellent even the referee has, Steve Sidwell gets esnt off for putting his arm on a player who then throws himself to the ground. I would understand this, but when the referee allows two-footed tackles..

Hamburg are a good side, not a bad result considering our line-up and referee. Bring on the last 32 and I hope Gardner is okay.
Habitant
Sampdoria 1 - 0 Sevilla

samp are through to the next round
Tennie
+1 cookie to Cassano & co. Well done to them.
dst
And I think Sevilla are out!?
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Dec 18 2008, 09:46 PM) *
And I think Sevilla are out!?

Yep.

So the draw for the next round is on Friday. Teams that won their group will be paired off against teams that finished 3rd in the group, teams that finished 2nd will be paired off against Champions League drop-outs. As far as I am aware, teams from the same country CAN NOT play each other in the Ro32. Teams that were in the same group can also not play each other.

Group winners
Man City, Metalist, Standard, Udinese, Wolfsburg, Hamburg, St. Etienne, CSKA Moscow.

Champions League drop-outs
Bordeaux, Bremen, Shakhtar, Marseilles, Aalborg, Fiorentina, Dynamo Kyiv, Zenit St. Petersburg.

Group Runners-Up
FC Twente, Galatasary, Stuttgart, Tottenham, Milan, Ajax, Valencia, Deportivo.

Group 3rd place finishers
PSG, Olympiakos, Sampdoria, NEC, Braga, Aston Villa, Copenhagen, Lech
Rossoneri7
^^^

Great ... but who do Milan play out of the three catergories ?
weeeow
ROUND OF 32 AC MILAN VS WERDER BREMEN! ohmy.gif

ROUND OF 16 WINNER OF (AC MILAN VS WERDER BREMEN) VS WINNER OF (OLYMPIAKOS VS SAINT ETIENNE)

Should be interesting...
Zed.D
At least our players will find some motivation in playing Bremen...
Zed.D
I think Bremen will eliminate us.
dst
We might play Olympiacos... that would be interesting...
Zed.D
QUOTE (dst @ Dec 19 2008, 05:20 PM) *
that would be interesting...


Especially for you wink.gif
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