Full Version: El Shaarawy
Choosing NOT to play El Shaarawy AGAINST Napoli is pretty much unforgiven, stupid, and uncalled for by Allegri.
Well, SES played badly, and did so continually.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 16 2013, 08:26 PM) 
Well, SES played badly, and did so continually.
Yet he should have started against Napoli.
As much as I'd love to nail Allegri for not playing him he's between a rock and a hard place.
Does he stamp his authority on the dressing room (whether I think he had control of it in the first place is another issue
) OR does he try and focus on our objective of getting to second?
I might be inclined to say the latter but without discipline the entire cause might be lost so Allegri might see the merits of sacrificing him in this one game to make a point.
That said I'm f**king tired of sooo many players having run ins with the coach....one or two is fine but not this many....something is clearly wrong somewhere.
Does he stamp his authority on the dressing room (whether I think he had control of it in the first place is another issue
) OR does he try and focus on our objective of getting to second?I might be inclined to say the latter but without discipline the entire cause might be lost so Allegri might see the merits of sacrificing him in this one game to make a point.
That said I'm f**king tired of sooo many players having run ins with the coach....one or two is fine but not this many....something is clearly wrong somewhere.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 16 2013, 08:26 PM)
Well, SES played badly, and did so continually.
I thought Robinho and Niang did too?
Then who to choose? He who has been hot most of season, or the ones who haven't at all?
So SES just stated he wants to be Milan for life? Deja Vu?
A very interesting comment someone posted on Facebook:
I completely agree with him, except the last sentence, as I believe he's better suited as a SS. But everything else? Spot on.
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I respect El Shaarawy because he is a milanista, at least he says so, but he too, coincidentally, has become easygoing ever since he met Esther (his girlfriend). Since the arrival of Balotelli he's scored only one goal with many negative performances, to say the least. And do not tell me that he runs back and forth, because then even Niang should not be criticized cos he runs each game back and forth like a scooter.
One is not omitted from criticizing a player because seven months ago he made us win games. We're discussing the El Shaarawy of now, that is not the one from the beginning of the season, but a different one, who opened an Instagram account in order to post 3000 photos. For what? To read the comments of horny 15 year olds? And even if it's acceptable for a player to become social at 360°, get your act together man! You're becoming like Boateng...
For example, Ronaldo is a model for Armani, he's a real model that is overpaid to do it. But he's a professional, as it was with Kaká at the time, who also modeled for Armani. However, when they both enter the pitch, they give it all, not giving a damn about hair and manicure. They're two WINNERS. And Ronaldo and Kaká do not put pictures of themselves shirtless or in their underwear on Instagram...
El Shaarawy has yet to prove much, everything. But above all, he has to demonstrate that he cares more about the shirt than his goddamn hair.
EL92 + 25 million for Tevez? Let's not even talk about it. Stephan must remain, must change his attitude and go back to being the player who worked his @ss off for this shirt. But not because El is an irreplaceable phenomenon, because he isn't neither a phenomenon, nor is he irreplaceable, but because he is the player on which we are building the future of our team, and because of this it makes no sense to switch from 4-3-3 to 4-3-1-2.
One is not omitted from criticizing a player because seven months ago he made us win games. We're discussing the El Shaarawy of now, that is not the one from the beginning of the season, but a different one, who opened an Instagram account in order to post 3000 photos. For what? To read the comments of horny 15 year olds? And even if it's acceptable for a player to become social at 360°, get your act together man! You're becoming like Boateng...
For example, Ronaldo is a model for Armani, he's a real model that is overpaid to do it. But he's a professional, as it was with Kaká at the time, who also modeled for Armani. However, when they both enter the pitch, they give it all, not giving a damn about hair and manicure. They're two WINNERS. And Ronaldo and Kaká do not put pictures of themselves shirtless or in their underwear on Instagram...
El Shaarawy has yet to prove much, everything. But above all, he has to demonstrate that he cares more about the shirt than his goddamn hair.
EL92 + 25 million for Tevez? Let's not even talk about it. Stephan must remain, must change his attitude and go back to being the player who worked his @ss off for this shirt. But not because El is an irreplaceable phenomenon, because he isn't neither a phenomenon, nor is he irreplaceable, but because he is the player on which we are building the future of our team, and because of this it makes no sense to switch from 4-3-3 to 4-3-1-2.
I completely agree with him, except the last sentence, as I believe he's better suited as a SS. But everything else? Spot on.
Good read, mostly agree with it.
He's absolutely right about the "you're becoming like Boateng" bit.
http://youtu.be/Q46jOIxU-z0?t=51s
What's wrong with these guys? They're football players, not top models!
http://youtu.be/Q46jOIxU-z0?t=51s
What's wrong with these guys? They're football players, not top models!
El Shaarawy: 'I'd never leave Milan'
Stephan El Shaarawy has no regrets about turning down a Premier League move. “I have been a Milan fan since childhood.”
The Little Pharaoh rejected a big proposal from an English club, believed to be Chelsea, over the summer and insisted he was happy with the money he earns.
“How close was I to leaving? No, I’ve always been convinced of my decisions, so I never thought about changing team,” he told Tuttosport.
“I have been a Milan fan since childhood, so being here is a dream come true. I would never have left, not even faced with an offer from Real Madrid. I’d have said no to any team.
“It’s also true that concrete requests from the so-called ‘big’ clubs never really developed. I want to be here for a long time and write Milan history.”
El Shaarawy’s form plummeted after Mario Balotelli’s arrival in January, leading some to suggest they are tactically incompatible.
“Mario and I are more than just teammates, we are true friends. We are always together and also talked about this. I’ve never listened to anyone who said my problem was him. In fact, he was one of the people who stayed closest during my difficulties and encouraged me.
“There’s no jealousy between us. I am convinced that I can do well with or without him on the field. I also think it’s normal for a 20-year-old player to not necessarily score every week. Opponents also got to know me and studied me more carefully.
“Massimiliano Allegri tells me I’m more predictable when I cut in from the left, so I should play more as an out and out striker. I’ll know how to adapt, even though I do find it easier to start from the left, as that’s where I started out. I’m enthusiastic.
“I also want to clarify there has never been a row with Allegri. When he dropped me against Napoli, he explained his ideas and I accepted them calmly. I was fully aware that I wasn’t the same El Shaarawy as a few months earlier. I was on the bench, there was no need to stir up the chaos that followed in the media.
“I’ve learned from that experience for the future. I learned that football can change from one day to the next, whether it turns positive or negative. You have to keep a level head in success and failure.”
Source: football-italia.net
Stephan El Shaarawy has no regrets about turning down a Premier League move. “I have been a Milan fan since childhood.”
The Little Pharaoh rejected a big proposal from an English club, believed to be Chelsea, over the summer and insisted he was happy with the money he earns.
“How close was I to leaving? No, I’ve always been convinced of my decisions, so I never thought about changing team,” he told Tuttosport.
“I have been a Milan fan since childhood, so being here is a dream come true. I would never have left, not even faced with an offer from Real Madrid. I’d have said no to any team.
“It’s also true that concrete requests from the so-called ‘big’ clubs never really developed. I want to be here for a long time and write Milan history.”
El Shaarawy’s form plummeted after Mario Balotelli’s arrival in January, leading some to suggest they are tactically incompatible.
“Mario and I are more than just teammates, we are true friends. We are always together and also talked about this. I’ve never listened to anyone who said my problem was him. In fact, he was one of the people who stayed closest during my difficulties and encouraged me.
“There’s no jealousy between us. I am convinced that I can do well with or without him on the field. I also think it’s normal for a 20-year-old player to not necessarily score every week. Opponents also got to know me and studied me more carefully.
“Massimiliano Allegri tells me I’m more predictable when I cut in from the left, so I should play more as an out and out striker. I’ll know how to adapt, even though I do find it easier to start from the left, as that’s where I started out. I’m enthusiastic.
“I also want to clarify there has never been a row with Allegri. When he dropped me against Napoli, he explained his ideas and I accepted them calmly. I was fully aware that I wasn’t the same El Shaarawy as a few months earlier. I was on the bench, there was no need to stir up the chaos that followed in the media.
“I’ve learned from that experience for the future. I learned that football can change from one day to the next, whether it turns positive or negative. You have to keep a level head in success and failure.”
Source: football-italia.net
Underwent surgery, out for ten weeks.
But even so,
Still perfect hair.
But even so,
Still perfect hair.
I just hope so dumb big club who probably scouts using FIFA ratings comes in and signs him for money he's not worth.
He'll be good if he regains match-fitness. But he's slowly becoming the new Pato.
This is what bothers me so much. Not the spoiled brats, not the amount of thugs in our roster, not even Allegri's dilettantism. It's the thing that we actually tried to sell (and did that with some success as well) the story of a new Arsenal. The word epic fail comes to mind now: not only did we select the wrong talents and the wrong coach to form a individualized tactic for all levels of Milan, we simply cannot do even the small things right.
Bottom line is, MilanLab has to be up for some serious changes. In the past chief doctors have been pulled and switched, but the same result remained. Now we have to do some different changes, structural I guess. Especially the youth section starts to look problematic for me.
This is what bothers me so much. Not the spoiled brats, not the amount of thugs in our roster, not even Allegri's dilettantism. It's the thing that we actually tried to sell (and did that with some success as well) the story of a new Arsenal. The word epic fail comes to mind now: not only did we select the wrong talents and the wrong coach to form a individualized tactic for all levels of Milan, we simply cannot do even the small things right.
Bottom line is, MilanLab has to be up for some serious changes. In the past chief doctors have been pulled and switched, but the same result remained. Now we have to do some different changes, structural I guess. Especially the youth section starts to look problematic for me.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 28 2013, 05:18 PM)
I just hope so dumb big club who probably scouts using FIFA ratings comes in and signs him for money he's not worth.
Yes please!
El Shaarawy's recovery is going well (next consultation in Amsterdam is on March 17). He's still not expected to return before April
Source: Milanello
Does anyone know what exactly happened to this guy? He's been out for six months.
Source: Milanello
Does anyone know what exactly happened to this guy? He's been out for six months.
Why bother, he'd probably be out in six months. 
Golden geese and all.
Golden geese and all.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 26 2014, 05:45 PM)
El Shaarawy's recovery is going well (next consultation in Amsterdam is on March 17). He's still not expected to return before April
Source: Milanello
Does anyone know what exactly happened to this guy? He's been out for six months.
Source: Milanello
Does anyone know what exactly happened to this guy? He's been out for six months.
Didn't he fracture his foot during training?
hes basically missed a whole season in development such a shame i would have liked to see him at the WC could this be another Pato type player we ruin...i hope not.
Cofie, Lazarevic and El Shaarawy, then and now:
SES looks more mature back then. No ridiculous haircut and all.
I seriously hope players are gonna start styling theirs hairs dildo style and shave a middle finger on the back of their heads. It will set all you old-fashioned know it alls right.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 14 2014, 10:47 PM)
SES looks more mature back then. No ridiculous haircut and all.
I barely even recognised him without it
SES: "The last few benches pissed me off. But they were technical decisions"
Link
Well, maybe you need to step up your game a bit, young lad.
Link
Well, maybe you need to step up your game a bit, young lad.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 18 2014, 12:57 PM)
SES: "The last few benches pissed me off. But they were technical decisions"
Link
Well, maybe you need to step up your game a bit, young lad.
Link
Well, maybe you need to step up your game a bit, young lad.
95% of fans are outraged by his absence, but while he had a bright enough start to the season, he tailed off quickly and he's no miss right now. He's turning into one of those players who gets better the more he's not in the team, and when he comes in and does nothing, either gets a bye as 'he needs time' or it just gets ignored.
QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 19 2014, 02:14 AM)
He's turning into one of those players who gets better the more he's not in the team
Yep. It's been nearly 2 years now since he had more than about 3 good performances.
Work-rate. That's something we already have plenty of.
Yeah, but work-rate alone is not the only thing necessary to be a good CM. Seriously, I hope this moronic suggestion from Mihajlovic doesn't represent his tactical know-how, otherwise we're fucked.
Well, I too hope it doesn't. But I have a feeling it precisely does, something all our previous coaches also seemed to be fixated on.
SES as a CM would be absolutely the epitome of ridiculous.
And trying to play it off as the Di Maria role is just hilarious
And trying to play it off as the Di Maria role is just hilarious
Next up is Diego Lopez as CF.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 6 2015, 04:29 PM)
Next up is Diego Lopez as CF.
Still beats Matri.
Bye, thanks for the memories! 
Pato #2
Twitter is filled with heartbroken fans absolutely gutted at this.
I'm overjoyed to have got rid of him. Didn't hate him like I did Balo, but equally glad to be shot of him at long last.
I'm overjoyed to have got rid of him. Didn't hate him like I did Balo, but equally glad to be shot of him at long last.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 13 2015, 11:57 PM)
Pato #2
At least Pato won the scudetto with us, scored that Inter goal, had wonderful moments. All what SES got is half a season of good football. Somehow it's a bigger disappointment.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 13 2015, 09:12 PM)
At least Pato won the scudetto with us, scored that Inter goal, had wonderful moments. All what SES got is half a season of good football. Somehow it's a bigger disappointment.
Pato had all the potential in the world, but made some awful decisions. He also wasn't built for Serie A, with Milan's attempts at bulking him up physically actually making him much more fragile.
He was a sad one, who could have been sensational.
I never saw a fifth of that quality in El-Sha.
As usual, you guys are too harsh.
We're speaking about a youngster here. He exploded in 2012-2013, and as expected then had a rough patch. Let's not forget that the team as a whole has been in a rough patch all these years as well. It's only expected, I'd say, of a young talent to not do so well! Then, the last two seasons were just plagued with injuries which was just plain bad luck, err.
I think some of you just take that explosive season, and set that as the standard for him.
What is for certain is the guy has a great finishing touch, and sick speed. He'll succeed in a more stable/nurturing environment in Monaco, you'll see.
We're speaking about a youngster here. He exploded in 2012-2013, and as expected then had a rough patch. Let's not forget that the team as a whole has been in a rough patch all these years as well. It's only expected, I'd say, of a young talent to not do so well! Then, the last two seasons were just plagued with injuries which was just plain bad luck, err.
I think some of you just take that explosive season, and set that as the standard for him.
What is for certain is the guy has a great finishing touch, and sick speed. He'll succeed in a more stable/nurturing environment in Monaco, you'll see.
QUOTE (William405 @ Jul 15 2015, 04:33 PM)
As usual, you guys are too harsh.
We're speaking about a youngster here. He exploded in 2012-2013, and as expected then had a rough patch. Let's not forget that the team as a whole has been in a rough patch all these years as well. It's only expected, I'd say, of a young talent to not do so well! Then, the last two seasons were just plagued with injuries which was just plain bad luck, err.
I think some of you just take that explosive season, and set that as the standard for him.
What is for certain is the guy has a great finishing touch, and sick speed. He'll succeed in a more stable/nurturing environment in Monaco, you'll see.
We're speaking about a youngster here. He exploded in 2012-2013, and as expected then had a rough patch. Let's not forget that the team as a whole has been in a rough patch all these years as well. It's only expected, I'd say, of a young talent to not do so well! Then, the last two seasons were just plagued with injuries which was just plain bad luck, err.
I think some of you just take that explosive season, and set that as the standard for him.
What is for certain is the guy has a great finishing touch, and sick speed. He'll succeed in a more stable/nurturing environment in Monaco, you'll see.
A lot of innaccuracies there tbh.
He didn't explode in 2012/2013, he had a good August to November. He didn't carry the team because our results were diabolical - to carry a team is to credit one player with getting the most out of the rest. He simply stood out as the one bright spot, given there was no expectation on him. Thereafter, there was, and he couldn't live up to it.
He was complete rubbish from about December that year onwards, and has barely had an ounce of form since.
As for pace - where does this myth come from? He's far from quick - above average pace but no more.
He'll suit France though - I think he'll do well in the less pressured environment of Ligue 1 - France love their football but not like Italy. It never got into French blood the way Italians live for football.
I wish him well, and hope he has a good career over there, but he could have stayed five more years at Milan and never delivered.
QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 16 2015, 04:18 AM)
I wish him well, and hope he has a good career over there, but he could have stayed five more years at Milan and never delivered.
Shush now, Danny, he might actually come back.
Possibilities!
QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 16 2015, 01:18 AM)
A lot of innaccuracies there tbh.
He didn't explode in 2012/2013, he had a good August to November. He didn't carry the team because our results were diabolical - to carry a team is to credit one player with getting the most out of the rest. He simply stood out as the one bright spot, given there was no expectation on him. Thereafter, there was, and he couldn't live up to it.
He was complete rubbish from about December that year onwards, and has barely had an ounce of form since.
As for pace - where does this myth come from? He's far from quick - above average pace but no more.
He'll suit France though - I think he'll do well in the less pressured environment of Ligue 1 - France love their football but not like Italy. It never got into French blood the way Italians live for football.
I wish him well, and hope he has a good career over there, but he could have stayed five more years at Milan and never delivered.
He didn't explode in 2012/2013, he had a good August to November. He didn't carry the team because our results were diabolical - to carry a team is to credit one player with getting the most out of the rest. He simply stood out as the one bright spot, given there was no expectation on him. Thereafter, there was, and he couldn't live up to it.
He was complete rubbish from about December that year onwards, and has barely had an ounce of form since.
As for pace - where does this myth come from? He's far from quick - above average pace but no more.
He'll suit France though - I think he'll do well in the less pressured environment of Ligue 1 - France love their football but not like Italy. It never got into French blood the way Italians live for football.
I wish him well, and hope he has a good career over there, but he could have stayed five more years at Milan and never delivered.
And, I agree with all of this.
The part about "he could've stayed for five more years at Milan and never delivered", well that depends. It seems one of the main reasons he left was that he wasn't in Miha's project. He wanted to shift his role, play him in midfield..a position we all agree is not optimal for him.
Just the only difference I won't proclaim him a failure just because he didn't work out in this MESSED(I had another word on my mind:P) up Milan team.
The problem with SES is that he was never a winger.
His pace is the only reason why he was even used there to begin with. However the fact that his dribbling is sub-par is why his longevity in that position was non-existent.
That first season he took most teams by surprise in that position, but they easily found a way to nullify him and isolate him wide on the wing. The terrible midfield he had behind him certainly didn't help in that respect.
Problem is, he was never really used in his proper position upfront.
Monaco will most likely also use him as a winger, but defences in the French league won't pose the same problems for him that Serie A defenders did.
Also, saying someone was a complete failure in the 4 years or so is a major overstatement.
His 1st year Zlatan was still here and he was just the kid brought on from a Serie B side. So most of that season was spent on the bench
His 2nd season he was one of the very few players who actually performed and his goals were crucial to us getting important points which in the end got us that 3rd place finish
His 3rd and 4th season was spent out injured with some sporadic showings where he couldn't amass a decent run of consecutive games
His pace is the only reason why he was even used there to begin with. However the fact that his dribbling is sub-par is why his longevity in that position was non-existent.
That first season he took most teams by surprise in that position, but they easily found a way to nullify him and isolate him wide on the wing. The terrible midfield he had behind him certainly didn't help in that respect.
Problem is, he was never really used in his proper position upfront.
Monaco will most likely also use him as a winger, but defences in the French league won't pose the same problems for him that Serie A defenders did.
Also, saying someone was a complete failure in the 4 years or so is a major overstatement.
His 1st year Zlatan was still here and he was just the kid brought on from a Serie B side. So most of that season was spent on the bench
His 2nd season he was one of the very few players who actually performed and his goals were crucial to us getting important points which in the end got us that 3rd place finish
His 3rd and 4th season was spent out injured with some sporadic showings where he couldn't amass a decent run of consecutive games
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 16 2015, 11:18 AM)
The problem with SES is that he was never a winger.
His pace is the only reason why he was even used there to begin with. However the fact that his dribbling is sub-par is why his longevity in that position was non-existent.
That first season he took most teams by surprise in that position, but they easily found a way to nullify him and isolate him wide on the wing. The terrible midfield he had behind him certainly didn't help in that respect.
Problem is, he was never really used in his proper position upfront.
Monaco will most likely also use him as a winger, but defences in the French league won't pose the same problems for him that Serie A defenders did.
Also, saying someone was a complete failure in the 4 years or so is a major overstatement.
His 1st year Zlatan was still here and he was just the kid brought on from a Serie B side. So most of that season was spent on the bench
His 2nd season he was one of the very few players who actually performed and his goals were crucial to us getting important points which in the end got us that 3rd place finish
His 3rd and 4th season was spent out injured with some sporadic showings where he couldn't amass a decent run of consecutive games
His pace is the only reason why he was even used there to begin with. However the fact that his dribbling is sub-par is why his longevity in that position was non-existent.
That first season he took most teams by surprise in that position, but they easily found a way to nullify him and isolate him wide on the wing. The terrible midfield he had behind him certainly didn't help in that respect.
Problem is, he was never really used in his proper position upfront.
Monaco will most likely also use him as a winger, but defences in the French league won't pose the same problems for him that Serie A defenders did.
Also, saying someone was a complete failure in the 4 years or so is a major overstatement.
His 1st year Zlatan was still here and he was just the kid brought on from a Serie B side. So most of that season was spent on the bench
His 2nd season he was one of the very few players who actually performed and his goals were crucial to us getting important points which in the end got us that 3rd place finish
His 3rd and 4th season was spent out injured with some sporadic showings where he couldn't amass a decent run of consecutive games
Agreed with all points.
Half a season of good football in 4 years isn't that far from failure to be honest.
And I think your winger argument is shaky. All coaches used him on that position and now you say Monaco will do the same. Never even once have I read SES complained or told his being played out of his preferred position. Mihajlović wanted him in the di Maria position - meaning he also considered him as a winger who can evolve. I don't see how there can be any further discussion on his position.
And I think your winger argument is shaky. All coaches used him on that position and now you say Monaco will do the same. Never even once have I read SES complained or told his being played out of his preferred position. Mihajlović wanted him in the di Maria position - meaning he also considered him as a winger who can evolve. I don't see how there can be any further discussion on his position.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 16 2015, 12:17 PM)
Half a season of good football in 4 years isn't that far from failure to be honest.
And I think your winger argument is shaky. All coaches used him on that position and now you say Monaco will do the same. Never even once have I read SES complained or told his being played out of his preferred position. Mihajlović wanted him in the di Maria position - meaning he also considered him as a winger who can evolve. I don't see how there can be any further discussion on his position.
And I think your winger argument is shaky. All coaches used him on that position and now you say Monaco will do the same. Never even once have I read SES complained or told his being played out of his preferred position. Mihajlović wanted him in the di Maria position - meaning he also considered him as a winger who can evolve. I don't see how there can be any further discussion on his position.
He doesn't have the dribbling, passing or vision that's needed to be a proper winger
For me SES is a striker, he's got great positioning and finishing abilities.
Also, he wasn't used as a winger at Padova, he played as their SS or AM. He was also used as a second striker his first season with us
Like I said, Allegri played him on the wing because of his speed and because we couldn't function in a 4-3-1-2 anymore once there was no more Ibra to rely on. Once he had those great few months on the wing he instantly because considered a winger and nothing else.
It's just my opinion that he's simply not one because he doesn't have the attributes that I would associate with wingers, especially for one who plays an inverted role and his job isn't just to run to the by-line and cross
Also, the point here is that he only really had 2 full seasons where he was fit and capable of playing consistently. The other 2 he was practically out for the majority of both
SES = the new Milanfan Muntari.
Match threads will quickly get derailed with 'SES would have helped there' or 'we miss SES'.
Match threads will quickly get derailed with 'SES would have helped there' or 'we miss SES'.
QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 16 2015, 03:25 PM)
SES = the new Milanfan Muntari.
Match threads will quickly get derailed with 'SES would have helped there' or 'we miss SES'.
Match threads will quickly get derailed with 'SES would have helped there' or 'we miss SES'.
I highly doubt that. We do need a new scapegoat though. What will do without Muntari and Bonera?!
QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 16 2015, 09:25 PM)
SES = the new Milanfan Muntari.
Match threads will quickly get derailed with 'SES would have helped there' or 'we miss SES'.
Match threads will quickly get derailed with 'SES would have helped there' or 'we miss SES'.
QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Jul 17 2015, 12:32 AM)
I highly doubt that. We do need a new scapegoat though. What will do without Muntari and Bonera?!
Oh Bonera!
Jolly glad we got rid of that old chap. 
Thought we'd be stuck with him forever. 
As for Muntari, the less said about him the better.
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