For me they were inexcusable last season and the one before that as well.

Agreed. And yes, it is making our situation difficult, it is not wise or profitable. But our financial situation depends on Finivest, not on the wage bill.

Sure that is true, but the club's profit and losses are what make or break us, the fact that we were coming up with 60m in losses each year has nothing to do with Fininvest and everything to do with complete and total mismanagement on Galliani's part. Fininvest's unwillingness to bankroll those losses is why we had to cut down on spending, but at the end of the day those losses are there because Galliani let them happen.

Had those losses not been so big, Fininvest's yearly 60m funding could have been put to better use instead of going into pulling us out of the red

huh, since when was our wage bill not insanely high? Where do we get losses of 60MM from each year?

The economic crisis has crippled Milan's income domestically. FIGC has not done sh1t to help promote the clubs, other than being a regulator, it serves as a tool for the government. The Italian government my friend ('Europe's third largest industrial nation' as Bloomberg refer to it) is broke. There is no appeal from the outside world other than its culture, the fine wines and its exotic cars. The economic crisis crippled gdp in Italy. Family income is suppressed.

That said, having a insanly high wagebill is what brought you Shevchenko, Kaka, Rui Costa, Seedorf, Nesta, Thiago Silva ... Reducing that wagebill to your Montolivo, Muntari, Mexes ... That is the difference. The problem therefor lies in covering expenses to have players like Nesta, Gattuso, Pirlo etc (at their prime), but where does that income come from? Having read the above, I expect you at at least guess that one.



Seedorf, Rino, Ambro, Dida when they were all 33-35 yrs old were 10x the players we have here. Cafu at 34 against Abate? That team that we had contracts extended for were as Pippo Simone stated above to delay the decline.

And han, 4m multiplied by 2 means players are taxed 100%?



Who would play for 1.2M other than the Traories of the world?

Don't draw your conclusions based on the fact that Milan's global allure alone can work miracles. The magic that we all saw was fueled by Silvio Berlusconi. That fuel is gone, not even Mourinho 'himself' would make you an omlette with this team.


Economic crisis has a lot to do with Milan's situation, in FACT had it not been for economic crisis Milan would still have that magic, as FFP would not have even been thought of.

When those players you speak of were at their prime we were still making profits because we were winning regularly and going deep into the CL with a final or semi final showing each year, meaning we were usually one of the highest if not the highest earners from that competition, not to mention when you are winning on a regular basis, marketing and investment money comes by a lot more easily.

When did we start making losses? When the team got too old to compete at a high level but we were still paying those players as if they were still at their prime. And these are figures you posted yourself multiple times


No they weren't, you're just fooling yourself into thinking that. Rino, a personal favourite of mine, had declined so badly by that age you're indicating was simply not even worthy to be on the bench any more, Ambro had become someone who could play a good game once in a while and be terrible for most of the others, Seedorf lost his legs, became even lazier than he was in his best of days and had become someone who didn't contribute to the team. Dida hadn't been a regular for us while still earning 4m per season for years until he ran down his contract. Same goes for Cafu and Serginho who both struggled terribly in their final years with us. Don't forget we were desperate for a RB even when Cafu was still here which is why we bought Oddo.

When a player is earning 4m that means he's costing the club 8m per season. That is the way they are taxed in Italy

The fact is that none of them should have been given the long term lucrative contracts they were given after that CL win, the only player who deserved the extensions and money was Nesta as he always maintained his high level


Ummmm, players like Traore are barely given .5m per year with a normal club. We knew absolutely nothing about him when we signed him, just that he was free. So I'm sure it made sense to give him over 1m in wages yearly

A proper coach would make this group of players into a great unit, I'm sure of this. The team you're talking about all nostalgically was the one that wouldn't have been able to produce a rotten omelette, because it was a physically depleted side, that had won everything and were still being paid like they were at their peaks while having nothing left to prove.

And like I said to Fillipo, the only reason the economic climate factored into this decline is because Fininvest no longer wanted to cover those losses we were making due to the gross mismanagement we've been under for these last 6 years now

Wow han .. I am convinced, that reply above was just for the sake of arguing. I am sorry but, that just did not make sense to me. income tax of 100%? I am assured now, you act on impulse.

This has been discussed a million times here, and not just from me check it out before trying to tell me I'm some impulsive idiot who doesn't think before speaking.

And I'm sure you didn't like my reply since it goes against everything you preach about, but to each his own or whatever

So han goes through every point you make and responds to them thoroughly one by one and this is your response?