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X-Offender
Question: where the f*ck is Menez?
maldini03
I have a feeling the whole Mr Bee situation is going to crumble. It would be hard to throw your money at people who have no idea how to spend it. They dropped 90mil this summer and this is the result. The cost to turn this team into a winner again is a daunting number, at least when you have Galliani holding the purse strings. I honestly believe that a "bigger" coach would have netted us that money already.
X-Offender
QUOTE (maldini03 @ Oct 4 2015, 08:34 PM) *
I have a feeling the whole Mr Bee situation is going to crumble. It would be hard to throw your money at people who have no idea how to spend it. They dropped 90mil this summer and this is the result. The cost to turn this team into a winner again is a daunting number, at least when you have Galliani holding the purse strings. I honestly believe that a "bigger" coach would have netted us that money already.


The answer is simple: fire Galliani.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 4 2015, 08:33 PM) *
Question: where the f*ck is Menez?

Still hasn't recovered from his back operation.

QUOTE (maldini03 @ Oct 4 2015, 08:34 PM) *
I have a feeling the whole Mr Bee situation is going to crumble. It would be hard to throw your money at people who have no idea how to spend it. They dropped 90mil this summer and this is the result. The cost to turn this team into a winner again is a daunting number, at least when you have Galliani holding the purse strings. I honestly believe that a "bigger" coach would have netted us that money already.

I don't think he can back out at this point, not without paying major fines

Anyways, I'm sure he knew what he was walking into considering how Milan has been run this past decade. He won't have a majority share in the club but once he has voting members on the board, I'm sure it won't take long for Galliani to be ousted once that happens.

Even once this season is a failure, I'm sure he'll wriggle his way and convince Silvio to keep him by putting all the blame on Miha. But 90m and we barely have a squad good enough to get us into the EL on paper not to mention all the on field issues we have that Miha had to deal with once he came on is just inexcusable.

With that kind of money he could have gotten much better quality. That's on him. Bertolacci is the biggest waste of money this club has spent since Gilardino and Oliveira
maldini03
Absolutely. Bertolacci was a really terrible way to blow 20mil, but I do think that it also has to do with the mindset of the coach. I underetard that it takes time to find the winning combination but Zapata has been our worst player this season, far worse than Bertolacci and he continues to play game after game. His first choice pairing got burned the first game, I get that it's tough to risk them again, but insisting on Zapata is costing us. It's like bonera last year. Zapata didn't come with a 20mil price tag and there is no youth there, no potential to get better. Our defending is the worst part of our game, we are probably at the bottom of the league in thay regard. As the coach it's your responsibility to work on that
han2503
QUOTE (maldini03 @ Oct 4 2015, 08:49 PM) *
Absolutely. Bertolacci was a really terrible way to blow 20mil, but I do think that it also has to do with the mindset of the coach. I underetard that it takes time to find the winning combination but Zapata has been our worst player this season, far worse than Bertolacci and he continues to play game after game. His first choice pairing got burned the first game, I get that it's tough to risk them again, but insisting on Zapata is costing us. It's like bonera last year. Zapata didn't come with a 20mil price tag and there is no youth there, no potential to get better. Our defending is the worst part of our game, we are probably at the bottom of the league in thay regard. As the coach it's your responsibility to work on that

To be fair, there are fans who advocated for Zapata to still start, maybe not a majority but still, some people still thought it was okay to play Zapata, because he's "fast and athletic" and I'm not just talking about the people on here (so as not to point fingers) but from other forums and people that I talk to personally.
han2503
Nice defending there rolleyes.gif
X-Offender
Vomit-inducing. Back to last season mediocrity.
maldini03
Look at the problem one step above the players though, if you're the coach and you see that your team cannot attack, a problem that cannot be alleviated without new more creative players, you say to yourself at least we can defend. We should be the most in synch and tactically sound defensive teams. Play catenacco defend and play the counter. Bleeding goals only works if you can score twice as many, which is how Napoli usually operates
han2503
How much did Napoli pay for Allan? He's been amazing for them so far this season and I don't think he even cost Napoli half of what we paid for the useless Bertolacci.

Our defence has simply fallen apart. The blind leading the blind. Zapata and Ely are a mess next to each other
han2503
QUOTE (maldini03 @ Oct 4 2015, 08:56 PM) *
Look at the problem one step above the players though, if you're the coach and you see that your team cannot attack, a problem that cannot be alleviated without new more creative players, you say to yourself at least we can defend. We should be the most in synch and tactically sound defensive teams. Play catenacco defend and play the counter. Bleeding goals only works if you can score twice as many, which is how Napoli usually operates

I'm not saying the coach is blameless. Miha has so far failed to really make this team play, something which has plagued us for years now.

But I also have to look above the coach as well. He's got management above his head dictating what formation to play and what type of football should be played as well.

I mean it's just ridiculous and the problem goes beyond the field of play
han2503
Muntari and Boateng in the stands... Stuff of nightmares right there
maldini03
Of course I won't debate that, you say it's the blind leading the blind on the field but that applies to every facet of this team. Ownership, management, coaching, players. Organization and strong leadership are no longer synonymous with Milan.
han2503
The useless Cerci on for the useless Bertolacci.
han2503
QUOTE (maldini03 @ Oct 4 2015, 09:01 PM) *
Of course I won't debate that, you say it's the blind leading the blind on the field but that applies to every facet of this team. Ownership, management, coaching, players. Organization and strong leadership are no longer synonymous with Milan.

Exactly.
han2503
Monto giving the ball away twice in a row now as well.

Wake up FFS!

Also there is simply no movement, a player in our midfield has the ball and it's at a complete stand still
Nova
We're saved!! Cerci has come on !!
maldini03
You gotta love the effort of some of the players though, guys like Antonelli MDS Bona bacca those guys kinda give you hope about what this team could be in the right hands
Nova
Sh!t just got pathetic
han2503
We're the team who's had an entire week to prepare and our players look like the ones who played on Thursday, not Napoli
han2503
...
Nova
0-3 ...
maldini03
Take this one out of the oven. We're cooked. 3-0, three losses in a row. This isn't gonna get better anytime soon
han2503
Might just turn this off since I have to wake up early and I'm actually feeling sick watching this
Nova
The funny thing is that Napoli isn't even trying. It's so easy to beat us...
han2503
These short corners are the stupidest thing. Every time, not only do we waste the opportunity but we put ourselves under pressure passing the ball back
han2503
Ely is just really making himself known in all the games he's started isn't he

First gets sent off now an own goal...
Nova
At least we scored
han2503
2 losses on the bounce, one of them a huge embarrassment, expect Miha to be sacked headlines tomorrow
han2503
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 4 2015, 09:23 PM) *
At least we scored

I was like huh.gif when I read this, then laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
X-Offender
Couldn't watch anymore. Thank you Nova for the stream.

This is exactly what I was expecting from this season. Bravo Galliani, bravo.
Nova
Almost 5 ...
Nova
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 4 2015, 11:29 PM) *
Couldn't watch anymore. Thank you Nova for the stream.

This is exactly what I was expecting from this season. Bravo Galliani, bravo.


You're welcome buddy
han2503
I've decided to watch to the bitter end... Migt be because I'm stupid and a masochist
Nova
Free kick Milan. One real goal perhaps ?
Nova
Nope
han2503
FT. Off to bed. We should all commiserate tomorrow
Nova
Not even extra time. Horrible night !
han2503
QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 4 2015, 09:37 PM) *
Not even extra time. Horrible night !

Why prolong the misery?
Nova
Nice gesture from the ref
Nova
Off to bed, good night everyone
Ry4n
Turned it off at 3-0 , not suprised i refresh the page for the final score and see its 4-0 what a facking disaster...we were not even playing simple plays. If Napoli were more clinical this could have been 6-0 easily.

Again even if we sack Miha we are still not a team.

IF we do i think Capello is the only one that is going to get this team to play the simple game of just winning a football match.
Fillipo Simone
Fabio? We're miles apart. Next will be one of Gattuso, Donadoni or - we'll wait for Allegri.
Suhail 3
Wish I didn't watch this game
Ry4n
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 5 2015, 02:23 AM) *
Fabio? We're miles apart. Next will be one of Gattuso, Donadoni or - we'll wait for Allegri.

Good i hope not , when will we get a proper coach or proper players is it too much to ask.. cry.gif
X-Offender
So, 4 defeats in 7 games, 13 goals conceded and 2nd worst defense in the league only after Carpi. Last season with Pippo after 7 weeks we had 11 points, only one defeat. Could this season possibly turn out worse than last time? Does hell have an end?
Fillipo Simone
It will. But the question is, will we live to tell the story sad.gif
X-Offender
As long as we are managed by Silvio and Galliani, I doubt it.
han2503
I think it's high time Miha took a good look at his squad and revaluates some things. It was very clearly a mistake to go into the game with that defence. If you don't have your best players available at least go for the next best thing. Ely and Zapata are certainly not that and anyone could see the disaster ahead with those 2 in the centre against Napoli's attack.

Ely is turning out to be that guy who has the anti-Midas touch. I'm sort of feeling sorry for him now. But fact here is that you shouldn't be playing with a rookie when you have much better and more experienced players on the bench.

As for Zapata, I seriously don't have it in me to say anymore about this guy. I actually said before the game that the smart thing to do would be to play him next to Alex. But this guy just manages to hit new lows each week, after the disaster show against Genoa, he tops it with this one. His mistake was the literal straw that broke the camel's back as I thought we were doing very well before that and we actually looked like the better side. I'm not saying it's all his fault that we collapsed afterwards, that's because we're so mentally weak as a team. But when you're already so vulnerable as a team, to have someone who's that much of a liability to an already barely functioning team is simply unacceptable and he shouldn't start anymore games!

The midfield is just one un-coordinated mess. I want to say bring De Jong back, maybe that would help out with the leaky defence, but putting De Jong in the centre will make out midfield even more 1 dimensional. I was all for trying him on either side of Monto, but not if Miha is going to use him as a pseudo mezalla instead of as a destroyer.

Once we have Menez back I really think we should remove Bertolacci, push Bona back into midfield and use Menez behind the striker.

Also, Luiz and Bacca playing next to each other is redundant and simply doesn't work

X-Offender
We could analyze our flaws all day, but we had this coming after that appalling transfer market.

There's only one simple question that every Milan fan should make: did Galliani really think that we would make a 180 turn after the disastrous last season by signing the likes of Romagnoli, Kucka, Bertolacci and Luiz Adriano?

Adding more average and mediocre players to another bunch of average and mediocre players will not change a goddamn thing.
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