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Darunia
I think Juve is good but I really can't seem them beating any English team.

Anyways I hope we hear something official, Wenger says it'll be handled in the next 1-2 days probably.
Bluesummers
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Flamini Demanding Sky-High Wages For Gunners Stay
Arsenal midfielder Mathieu Flamini is almost certain to leave on a free transfer this summer, insisting the Gunners must match the £144,000 per week currently tabled by Milan to persuade him to stay...



This astonishing wage demand reported by the Daily Mail would make the tireless midfielder one of the most well-paid players in the world. It would also surely signal the end for the player's time at Arsenal, who are notoriously stringent with their wage structure.

Italian giants Milan are able to table such high sums in wages due to no transfer fee being paid to the club for the Frenchman, as his contract expires at the end of this season.



It has been a long-running saga in which Italian rivals Juventus had long led the way, but Milan, seeking reinforcements for the aging Gennaro Gattuso and Massimo Ambrosini, look like they may have pipped the Old Lady to the 24-year-old.

Manager Arsene Wenger had previously set a deadline of the end of April for Flamini to decide on his future, but has now given him extra time - reportedly, until Monday morning - to make his decision.

Regarding the saga, Wenger insists the player wants to stay - so it could well be the agent engineering the move - but ultimately, the club looks unlikely to meet his demands.

"Mathieu could answer the question on his future much better than I could," sighed Wenger. "At the moment, we have no news from him but, at the latest, we expect it to be decided over the weekend.

"He tells me he wants to stay and I want him to stay, but it will be down to numbers as well and we want to respect our wage structure. It is also important to keep the core of the team together."

Flamini was signed by Arsenal on a free from his hometown club, Marseille, in 2004.



WE GOT MONEY!!!!!! WE GOT MONAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAKE THAT UP YOUR **** WENGA!~
Zed.D
^^

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But... there are a few teams that can outbid us the way we outbid Arsenal. economically, we're nothing compared to Man U, Real, Chelsea. we might have as much money [as R7 would say], but we surely don't fvcking spend it... dry.gif
Tennie
Er. It's the Daily Mail. Not particularly reliable. smile.gif And everyone already knew Milan were offering more than the Gooners.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2008, 11:10 AM)
Er. It's the Daily Mail. Not particularly reliable. smile.gif And everyone already knew Milan were offering more than the Gooners.
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which is good. I'm glad were trying hard to win these contracts over.
Locke Lamora
Mathieu Flamini's future will be sorted out by the start of next week.

Arsène Wenger had set the end of April as the deadline for the out-of-contract midfielder to decide his future. However "negotiation problems" have held up the process. Now, the Arsenal manager expects a resolution by Monday.

“It will be sorted out over the weekend," said Wenger. "Will he stay or not? That is down to him but the deadline is Sunday, Monday latest.

"The deadline moved for negotiation problems. Only he could tell you [whether he will go or not]. For me yes he stays, but does he tell me the complete truth, I don’t know.

"Ideally I want him to stay, but he’s free. That means if you get £2million here, £4 million somewhere else, you can go to the one who gives you four, or you can as well stay to the one who gives you two.

“He is free to make a decision and you have to accept the market. You listen to everybody in Europe and take some time, that’s why the situation has lasted a little bit. But overall he’s free to go where he wants. You have to accept that because he’s not linked by a contract.

Flamini has been superb for Arsenal this season but, although Wenger wants him to stay, the manager is confident that his side would cope if he did decide to go.

“[If he goes] we will find a solution, don’t worry," said the 58-year-old.

[ Friday, May 02, 2008]
morgoth
£144,000 for ... Flamini laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Quote of the week!

P.S. Does anyone knows how much Kaka is paid?

Edit. I've just checked Kaka is paid 750,000€ a month which is actually kind of ... £144,000 a week laugh.gif
I_Rossoneri
Have the Daily Mail got their pound and euro mixed up? tongue.gif

I suppose if we're paying Dida £80,000 per week to watch games, then £144,000 for Flamini to actually play isn't too bad smile.gif
kurtsimonw
£144,000 a week! I bet I don't earn that in 10 years! Crazy money.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ May 3 2008, 12:07 AM)
Have the Daily Mail got their pound and euro mixed up? tongue.gif

I suppose if we're paying Dida £80,000 per week to watch games, then £144,000 for Flamini to actually play isn't too bad smile.gif
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I doubt, 144K/week in Euros or Pounds ... It's a staggering figure, someone like Ronaldinho or Ronaldo, but not Falmini. I guess it's the British tabloids at their best smile.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 2 2008, 06:44 PM)
I doubt, 144K/week in Euros or Pounds ... It's a staggering figure, someone like Ronaldinho or Ronaldo, but not Falmini. I guess it's the British tabloids at their best smile.gif
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whatever 4 million a year comes to is what we are paying him.
Darunia
comes to 60k per week I believe
mkenya
Before you talk about how uncompetitive the Premier League is, look at other leagues first. La Liga and Serie A are as good as over. With only 2 games left, 3 teams can win the Premier League.
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Premiership is cr*p! Competition is not only about 4 teams!! its the league as a whole!!! look at the gap in terms of points between the 1st and the last teams in EPL, SerieA and La Liga and you'll get the point!

Premiership competition is only vested in the big 4 and their style of play is so boring: long balls, brute and fast...

Example one thing that i noticed in Man U v Barca is that at no single point did Van de Sar start play from behind!! yet his opposite always started play from the back...Man U couldn't keep possession because of their English style of play...

the only team that's interesting to watch in EPL is Arsenal, their style of play is like Milan's only that its faster and their players are younger...that's how they managed to beat us at our own game!
I_Rossoneri
[quote=mkenya,May 3 2008, 07:17 AM]
Before you talk about how uncompetitive the Premier League is, look at other leagues first. La Liga and Serie A are as good as over. With only 2 games left, 3 teams can win the Premier League.
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Premiership is cr*p! Competition is not only about 4 teams!! its the league as a whole!!! look at the gap in terms of points between the 1st and the last teams in EPL, SerieA and La Liga and you'll get the point!

Premiership competition is only vested in the big 4 and their style of play is so boring: long balls, brute and fast...

Example one thing that i noticed in Man U v Barca is that at no single point did Van de Sar start play from behind!! yet his opposite always started play from the back...Man U couldn't keep possession because of their English style of play...

the only team that's interesting to watch in EPL is Arsenal, their style of play is like Milan's only that its faster and their players are younger...that's how they managed to beat us at our own game!
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kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mkenya @ May 3 2008, 07:17 AM)
Premiership is cr*p! Competition is not only about 4 teams!! its the league as a whole!!! look at the gap in terms of points between the 1st and the last teams in EPL, SerieA and La Liga and you'll get the point!

Premiership competition is only vested in the big 4 and their style of play is so boring: long balls, brute and fast...

Example one thing that i noticed in Man U v Barca is that at no single point did Van de Sar start play from behind!! yet his opposite always started play from the back...Man U couldn't keep possession because of their English style of play...

the only team that's interesting to watch in EPL is Arsenal, their style of play is like Milan's only that its faster and their players are younger...that's how they managed to beat us at our own game!
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Where do people get the idea that this league only has 4 teams? blink.gif

What you think is boring, doesn't mean that it IS boring. It's just a different style, the EPL is a fast paced game. As for the team that finished last in the EPL this year, it's a one off, they the worst team in EPL history, so to use them as an example of what the EPL is always like is unfair.

The teams in 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th in the EPL have more points than those in the same positions in Serie A, so I don't get why you think we only have 4 teams, when our mid-table teams are getting more points than Serie As. unsure.gif

Meh, it's all opinion. Barca had all the posession, and what did they do with it? Nothing, against a league who's defenders are supposedly crap as well. When a team like Barca - who's meant to be great - has tonned of posession and can't score 1 goal over 180 minutes against sh!t defenders, well.. it doesn't make sense really does it.
Il Capitano
According to the site calciomercato Flamini gets 5.6 million.

I hope thats not true.

WTF
m1ke
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According to reports in Italy this evening, Mathieu Flamini has put pen to paper on a Milan contract after rejecting Arsenal’s terms.

The midfielder’s future has been up in the air for some time, as his contract with the Gunners expires at the end of the season.

Arsene Wenger extended the deadline for Flamini to give an answer to Monday, but that probably won’t be necessary.

According to Sky Italia, the French star has already signed a four-year contract worth £4.3m per season.

It is a slight change from the expected five-year deal worth £3.1m per term that had been mentioned in the Press.

Juventus had also been in the race to snatch up Flamini, but Milan appear to have secured his signature or at the very least a promise.

There is no official word as yet from either Arsenal or the Rossoneri.

“It will be sorted out over the weekend, and will he stay or not is down to him,” said Wenger earlier today.

“But we cannot afford not to keep our wage structure. We have a £360m debt and we have to respect the structure or we will go bust.”

Flamini had been offered a contract worth in the region of £55,000 per week.

Alexander Hleb is in a similar situation and has repeatedly been linked with Inter – something the Nerazzurri have firmly denied.
m1ke
If it's true, it's quite a lot of money for a young DM - no doubt increased because of other interested parties.

I hope he's worth it smile.gif
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (m1ke @ May 3 2008, 03:25 PM)
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Bluesummers
QUOTE (m1ke @ May 3 2008, 01:27 PM)
If it's true, it's quite a lot of money for a young DM - no doubt increased because of other interested parties.

I hope he's worth it smile.gif
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show me the monayyyyyyy dolla dolla ! devil.gif
whoarethepatriots
Sounds good and to put an end to the debate, its around £60k pw, roughly 10k more than he gets. Now sell Emerson, bring in another (recall ex primavera whatever) DM, sell Brocchi and we look set for solid foundations.

Still need a worthy backup to Seedorf, a centre defender and one or two full backs (depending on whether we dispose of Favalli and Sergio
Tennie
The Italian article in question is on datasport. The Euro figures they're quoting are E 5.5 million for four years.

Nothing official anywhere else and nothing yet on Mediaset.
Darunia
I'm expecting something official Monday, we'll see though. Maybe tomorrow if Milan beats Inter biggrin.gif
Tennie
Ah. Okay, it's showing up on Mediaset now. They're quoting Sky Italia - checked /their/ website and nothing yet. Probably the announcement, such as it is, took place during a television broadcast.
Darunia
The numbers they are quoting don't make sense, our wage structure:

Our wage structure is:
1 Kaka 9000000
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69 Ronaldo Lima 4020000
70 Andrea Pirlo 4020000
71 Alessandro Nesta 4020000
72 Clarence Seedorf 4020000
73 Filippo Inzaghi 4020000
74 Gennaro Gattuso 4020000
75 Nelson Dida 4020000
76 Kakha Kaladze 4020000
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98 Alberto Gilardino 3480000
99 Massimo Ambrosini 3480000
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110 Emerson Rosa 3180000
111 Marek Jankuslovski 3180000
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183 Paolo Maldini 1980000
184 Giuseppe Favalli 1980000
185 Daniele Bonera 1980000
186 Serginho 1980000
187 Massimo Oddo 1980000
188 Marcus Cafu 1980000
189 Alexandre Pato 1980000

at 5.5m euros he would be one of the highest paid players in Serie A wouldn't he?
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Darunia @ May 3 2008, 11:45 PM)
at 5.5m euros he would be one of the highest paid players in Serie A wouldn't he?
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He would .. If that was per season.
han2503
There's no way that he would be payed more then Kaka, he'll probably get as much as Pirlo, Nesta, Rino, Clarence, etc...

The media will speculate all they want about numbers but it will brobably be in that region
aLbErTo
kaka has much more since his new(latest) contract signing
han2503
QUOTE (aLbErTo @ May 4 2008, 10:48 AM)
kaka has much more since his new(latest) contract signing
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Yeah but with the ammount the media are speculating Flamini could start to make as much as him.

As I said, I think his wage will be around the ones Nesta and the other starters make. The media will continue to speculate numbers until the deal is done and even then they will continue to speculate
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 4 2008, 02:52 PM)
Yeah but with the ammount the media are speculating Flamini could start to make as much as him.

As I said, I think his wage will be around the ones Nesta and the other starters make. The media will continue to speculate numbers until the deal is done and even then they will continue to speculate
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I believe so, unless the player himself makes it public
CrazyMilanFan
The Guardian has confirmed this morning that french midfielder Mathieu Flamini has already found an agreement with AC Milan i think guardian is one of better newspaper in england
acid911
Welcome to the party, CrazyMilanFan. laugh.gif
agenth
"Flamini? Arriva a Milano questa sera, se supererà le visite mediche domani sarà un giocatore del Milan."

on the official page. apparently he just has to pass the medicals, and then he's officially a Rossonero ohmy.gif
CrazyMilanFan
yea that is what gallani said that he is a milan player for sure but sivio comments on R10 are shocking
agenth
why are you talking about R10 in the Flamini thread tongue.gif?

anyway, what did he say xD?
Tennie
(Just posted the translation on the Ronaldinho thread. Basically, Berlusconi stated that he's not sure Ronaldinho is what Milan needs.)

Good news about Flamini coming to Milan for the medical. Let's hope he passes it! smile.gif
MizNelson
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 4 2008, 10:07 AM)
(Just posted the translation on the Ronaldinho thread. Basically, Berlusconi stated that he's not sure Ronaldinho is what Milan needs.)
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Egad, Don Silvio making sense for a change? We should mark this day. smile.gif
Locke Lamora
He was at the Everton match today...wearing an Arsenal jacket...
Zed.D
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ May 4 2008, 08:54 PM)
He was at the Everton match today...wearing an Arsenal jacket...
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So...?
Locke Lamora
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 4 2008, 06:31 PM)
So...?
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Nothing...just reflecting on the vastly differing senses of loyality abundant in todays game...
Zed.D
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ May 4 2008, 09:10 PM)
Nothing...just reflecting on the vastly differing senses of loyality abundant in todays game...
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*sigh*

Personally I don't blame him because I think it wasn't just for money. I mean we'll be playing in the CL and we've always had more chance of winning the CL than Arsenal. what I mean is, when we have a bad season, it start from a bad season and end to a bad season. when we have a good season, it usually ends with silverware. but it's not like this for Arsenal. few months ago Arsenal was still in the CL and on the top of the EPL and badly on form, the talk of a double was all over the place. but they're going to end the season empty handed. not all the players accept this and it seems Flamini is one of those, those who always dare for more. I think if Arsenal don't change some things in their team, likes of Cesc and Hleb will consider leaving too...
Jack Sparrow
I understand Locke that you might be pissed, but I do think while you have a point when you say Flamini owes it to the club, there's also a counter point, that the club owes a little bit to Flamini. He has been among their best players this season, and he deserves a pay rise. It's one thing to cite wage structure when we talk about sums like the 100k + that Chelsea commands. But look at it from Flamini's point of view.

When Wes Brown is earning more than him, surely he has a point when he states I want to earn a comparable salary?

I have no doubts in my mind, that if Arsenal had offered him the whereabouts of Milan's salary, he would have stayed.

Now how is this different from Cashley Cole.. biggrin.gif He didn't sign up for another English club. I'm sure his agent could have approached Manchester City or even Newcastle.
kurtsimonw
I wuldn't worry Locke. Flamini has, in my opinion, had 1 good season for you, and you've won nothing in that season. You've won things before Flamini and you'll win them after Flamini, no question.
Darunia
So he's doing medical around this time correct? Hope to see him in a Milan shirt today biggrin.gif
Locke Lamora
I'm not pissed, far from it.
I'm fully aware that Flamini thinks and acts just like hundreds of other football players, they are workers after all, and if one boss offers more than another...
My thoughts were just going back to the likes of Adams, Winterburn, Dixon, Keown, Seaman and off course Bergkamp, great players who stayed with us through thick and thin...hell, Bergkamp accepted his 1-year contracts and place on the bench even though he got better offers from other clubs were he would have earned, played and won more.
Darunia
He left Marsielle controversially, why do you think he'll be loyal to Arsenal after one season as a starter? He won't be loyal to Milan either, it's not in his personality sleep.gif
Il Capitano
I'm waiting for the contract details, he is not worthy of 5.6 mil.
morgoth
QUOTE (MizNelson @ May 4 2008, 06:21 PM)
Egad, Don Silvio making sense for a change? We should mark this day. smile.gif
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Oh don't worry, this day has already been marked wink.gif cool.gif devil.gif devilsmiley.gif
Darunia


Picture of Flamini entering Kaladze's restaurant. Anyone ever been? biggrin.gif

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MILANO, 4 maggio 2008 - "Ci siamo fatti un bel regalo". Carlo Ancelotti modera i toni; i trionfalismi non fanno parte del suo repertorio. Anzi, il tecnico rossonero parte dall'Inter battuta nel derby: "Ai nerazzurri basta una vittoria, penso che lo scudetto possano vincerlo domenica con il Siena. Loro e la Roma hanno le stesse difficoltà con Siena e Atalanta, squadre già tranquille. L'Inter può chiedere i conti".
FLAMINI SI' DINHO NO - E' felice; morde l'Europa che conta. Mentre Adriano Galliani, poco più in là, annuncia: "Flamini è nostro; arriva questa sera e firmerà per quattro anni". Mentre il patron rossonero, Silvio Berlusconi, gongola pensando a Pippo Inzaghi e Kakà e afferma che "su Ronaldinho è sempre stato dubbioso", aggiungendo un categorico: "adesso penso che non ne abbiamo bisogno". Il numero 1 di via Turati fa gli auguri all'Inter per la vittoria finale, perché "nonostante quello che si possa pensare, da milanese autentico e da figlio della segreteria del dottor Moratti, sono felice per lo scudetto dell'Inter".
PRESTAZIONE - Ancelotti incassa è torna al derby: "L'Inter ha usato nel primo tempo un atteggiamento prudente; ha contenuto il gioco con la marcatura fissa su Pirlo e questo ci ha dato libertà sulla costruzione e il controllo del gioco". E non può fare a mano di guardarsi indietro; si pensare alle occasioni perdute. "Credo soprattutto che abbiamo pagato l'assenza di giocatori importanti come Inzaghi, che è stato out tre mesi per la frattura al piede. Ronaldo poi non c'è mai stato, Pato per sei mesi neanche. E poi abbiamo potuto lavorare bene in queste settimane. Oggi siamo stati bravi ad aggirarli lateralmente".
TUTTO IN GIOCO - Galliani, sempre poco più in là, non lancia proclami. "La felicità è contenuta - sostiene l'a.d. rossonero che mette le mani avanti - perché non è finita. Ha ragione Prandelli, la Fiorentina ha fatto un grandissimo campionato. Non drammatizziamo comunque se si arriva quinti. Ora abbiamo un punto in più. Vediamo cosa succede nelle due prossime partite". E analizzando i due calendario aggiunge: "Le partite sono tutte difficili e da giocare". Poi su Flamini: "Arriverà in serata e firmerà per 4 anni".
FLAMINI A MILANO - E infatti, come aveva annunciato nel pomeriggio il vicepresidente vicario del Milan, Adriano Galliani, il futuro acquisto rossonero, Mathieu Flamini, è arrivato a Milano in serata e adesso si trova a cena assieme al suo procuratore nel ristorante di proprietà del suo prossimo compagno di squadra, Kaladze, nei pressi della stazione centrale. Il centrocampista francese è atterrato alle 20,45 allo scalo privato di Linate, a bordo di un aereo proveniente da Londra, dove nel pomeriggio era sugli spalti dell'Emirates Stadium per l'ultima partita casalinga della stagione dell'Arsenal. In jeans, giacca e camicia nera, Flamini è stato accolto da una decina tra giornalisti, fotografi e operatori che lo attendevano di fronte al ristorante, ma a tutte le domande ha risposto con un secco "later, later".


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MILAN, 4 May 2008 - "we are done Ourselves a fine gift".  Carlo Ancelotti curbs the tones; the triumphalisms do not do part of its repertory.  Or rather, the technical rossonero leaves from the inter beaten in the match:  "To the nerazzurri you suffice a victory, I think that the badge possano to win the Sunday with the Siena.  They and the Rome have the same difficulty with Siena and Atalanta, squares already calm.  The inter is able ask the accounts".
FLAMINI HIMSELF' DINHO NO - AND' happy; bites the Europe that counts.  While Adriano Galliani, little further on, announces:  "Flamini is ours; arrives this evening and will sign for four years".  While the patron rossonero, Silvio Berlusconi, is pleased thinking about Pippo Inzaghi and Kakà and affirms that "on Ronaldinho always was doubtful", adding a categorical one:  "Now I think that we need not of it".  The number 1 of road Plugged does the omens to the inter for the final victory, because "although what thinks, from milanese authentic and from son of the secretary office of the dottor Moratti, I am happy for the badge of the inter". 
SERVICE - Ancelotti packs returned at the match:  "The inter used in the first time a cautious attitude; contained the game with the fixed marking on It and this has us given freedom on the construction and the control of the game".  And it cannot do to hand of to look at itself back; to be thought the occasions lost.  "I believe above all that we paid the important absence of gamblers like Inzaghi, that out was three months for the break to the foot.  Ronaldo then us did not ever be, I Suffer for you are months not even.  And then we were able to work well in these weeks.  Today we were capable to go around them sideways". 
ALL IN GAME - Galliani, always little further on, not spear proclamations.  "The happiness is contained - supports l' to. d. rossonero that puts the hands before - because is not ended.  It has reason Prandelli, the Florentine one did a large championship.  We do not dramatize however if it arrives fifth.  Now we have a point in more.  We see what it happens in two next left".  And analyzing the two calendar adds:  "The entries are all difficulties and to play".  Then on Flamini:  "It will arrive in evening and it will sign for 4 years". 
FLAMINI TO MILAN - AND in fact, how had announced in the afternoon the vice president vicar of the Milan, Adriano Galliani, the future purchase rossonero, Mathieu Flamini, arrived at Milan in evening and now it is found to supper together with its prosecutor in the restaurant of property of its next teammate, Kaladze, in the crowds of the central station.  The French midfielder is landed to 20.45 to the private port of Linate, on board of a coming airplane from London, where in the afternoon was on the steps of the emirates Stadium for the last divided housewife of the season of the arsenal.  In jeans, jacket and black shirt, Flamini was welcomed from a ten between journalists, you photograph and operating that awaited it facing the restaurant, but to all the questions answered with a dry one "later, later". 


- Tranlsated with freetranslation.com, article from Gazzetta.
Tennie
Well, he's getting into the swing of things, dining at Giannino. I've not been there, but I've been past? It's up near the rail station (and not too terribly far from Via Turati).
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