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han2503
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Aug 9 2017, 12:26 PM) *
Actually..... in the interview, it was the JOURNALIST to bring up Kalinic. Mirabelli responded with 'or Aubameyang or Diego Costa'. That part just isn't being translated clearly. Take that as you will.

Curious new rumor this morning - a Bacca-Falcao swap.

Falcao is finished, would take Kalinic over him

Also, do you guys think that 1 striker is enough? Especially is Montella plans to go for a 3-5-2/3-4-1-2 at some point this season

Atm we have Niang, Cutrone, Silva and Bacca as out and out strikers. That's rather pitiful. Sure we plan on replacing Bacca with another player. But that leaves us with just 1 reliable goal scorer in the team.

We don't know how Silva will do. Cutrone might be promising but I don't think he'll get a lot of minutes. And Niang is Niang, hopefully the management wake up before we end up stuck with hi for another season.

I'm thinking we need to sell Niang and Bacca ASAP and bring in 2 strikers. Maybe Costa/Auba + Kalinic?
Fillipo Simone
Dunno. I also think that we need at least two strikers, while none of the current ones qualifies as a good solution. Call me spoiled by the deals we've sealed earlier this summer - but this transfer stall at Milan is lightly getting on my nerves. We have to speed things up again, get rid of players like Sosa, Paletta, Niang, etc and close at least one of the two striker players.
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 9 2017, 07:34 PM) *
Dunno. I also think that we need at least two strikers, while none of the current ones qualifies as a good solution. Call me spoiled by the deals we've sealed earlier this summer - but this transfer stall at Milan is lightly getting on my nerves. We have to speed things up again, get rid of players like Sosa, Paletta, Niang, etc and close at least one of the two striker players.


The management said they'll be keeping quiet till Aug 15th and make a move after that. They're 'considering options'.
Danny
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 9 2017, 11:40 AM) *
Football Italia just pick up rumours, translate them and turns a one liner into a paragraph. Mediaset and Gazzetta have both been absolutely awful with Milan related news this summer. So it's no shock that they got this wrong as well


Football Italia have no interest in truth - just traffic. Their site is about hits and impressions on their ads.
Danny
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 9 2017, 03:14 PM) *
The management said they'll be keeping quiet till Aug 15th and make a move after that. They're 'considering options'.


Costa or Auba would do me just faaaaaaaaaaanhe!
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 9 2017, 01:04 PM) *
Dunno. I also think that we need at least two strikers, while none of the current ones qualifies as a good solution. Call me spoiled by the deals we've sealed earlier this summer - but this transfer stall at Milan is lightly getting on my nerves. We have to speed things up again, get rid of players like Sosa, Paletta, Niang, etc and close at least one of the two striker players.

It's easier said than done to sell such players. You also forgot to mention Bacca who's the toughest one to get rid of and the one who would catch us the most cash

But I agree with you about taking too long. The longer they wait the harder it gets to sign important players as their clubs will want to hold on to them.

QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 9 2017, 03:31 PM) *
Costa or Auba would do me just faaaaaaaaaaanhe!

Auba looking less and less likely now with Dembele looking like he's going to force his way out to Barca

Costa wants Atletico. The choices are really dwindling. I don't see how we could get either of them at this point. The threat of Kalinic is looming on us I'm afraid
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 10 2017, 08:37 PM) *
It's easier said than done to sell such players. You also forgot to mention Bacca who's the toughest one to get rid of and the one who would catch us the most cash

But I agree with you about taking too long. The longer they wait the harder it gets to sign important players as their clubs will want to hold on to them.

In general, it is real hard to sell on favorable terms if the potential buyer know you have to sell
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 9 2017, 10:00 PM) *
Football Italia have no interest in truth - just traffic. Their site is about hits and impressions on their ads.


Shame. That used to be what was said about tribalfootball. Those guys have remarkably improved now.
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 11 2017, 10:49 AM) *
Shame. That used to be what was said about tribalfootball. Those guys have remarkably improved now.

Never heard of them. Decided to check out the site, and it looks like we are linked to Modric again.
Danny
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 11 2017, 09:49 AM) *
Shame. That used to be what was said about tribalfootball. Those guys have remarkably improved now.


As have Goal who started out the same as tribalfootball. The former have certainly improved. Not seen TF in a while though.
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Aug 11 2017, 06:42 PM) *
Never heard of them. Decided to check out the site, and it looks like we are linked to Modric again.


The world of difference is that they quote the rag from which they report. Previously it would look like an actual news item. F-I have started doing that. The bonds issue for example.

However, tribal is still a cr@p clickbait site. They've just improved a little bit. I think CM is still a decent one.
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 11 2017, 01:19 PM) *
I think CM is still a decent one.

Yeah, that's if you avoid reading articles from the "Milan experts". Ruiu is the worst of the lot (the guy is clown, hates the new management, loves Galliani and Raiola, and has come out with statements like we were better off with Kucka than with the players we got this summer).
Fishdoll
English language sources for Milan are mediocre. A lot of the so called experts quoted in many places are either Gobbi or are, as stated above, buddies of Fester. Gotta interpret what's being said and it isn't always easy to spot the bias.

Oddly enough, the most accurate site I've found this window has been Milanista Non Evoluto (on twitter and facebook). Ostensibly a fan site, but one with very good connections and absolutely no love of Fester & co. The only drawback is that they're only in Italian (and I'm not sure how many other folks here can read it).

Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 7 2017, 12:21 AM) *
Belotti looks more and more like our Mr X. Looks like its gonna be one of those closing day signings though.

Ibra could be signed, but that doesnt change much as he isnt the same player who lifted the Scudetto with us.


Mirabelli was at Torino's IC game today. Mr X no? devil.gif
Fillipo Simone
But I don't think Mr. X should be someone in the shuffle. Milan is clearly still trying out for both Belotti and Aubameyang. Yet Mr. X should be someone completely of the radar (no Costa, Auba, Belotti, Morata, etc.).
han2503
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Aug 10 2017, 10:55 PM) *
In general, it is real hard to sell on favorable terms if the potential buyer know you have to sell

True. Anyway, we'll see what happens, I'll be disappointed if we end up stuck with Niang and Bacca while Kalinic is the striker we settle for.

We have to take advantage of the fact that we can spend whatever we want this summer as it won't be scrutinised by UEFA. But the options are very limited.

I think the way it's going, with each day that passes the chances of signing Auba decrease while the chance of singing Kalinic increases

That being said, I also think that the longer this drags with Atletico not doing anything on the Costa front, the chances for us to sign him increase as well. So I feel like we're playing a bit of Russian roulette here. We're taking our time on both Auba and Costa to see if a real chance to sign either opens up for us, while keeping Kalinic on ice in case of failing with the first 2
han2503
Damn it! Looks like it will be Kalinic after all this suspense!

Di Marzio saying we'll close the deal after Fiorentina confirm Simeone

What a complete let down after all the hyped up names
Danny
I don't feel we can go into a new season with Silva, Cutrone and Kalinic as our options up top with any hopes beyond a top five finish. It's dreadfully poor.
han2503
QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 12 2017, 10:25 PM) *
I don't feel we can go into a new season with Silva, Cutrone and Kalinic as our options up top with any hopes beyond a top five finish. It's dreadfully poor.

Agreed on that.

Plus Cutrone could still be loaned

Let's all hope and pray that Kalinic was always in the plans and they're planning on getting him and someone else. Because if that's our strik force for next season, we'll struggle to score goals consistently, just like last season
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 12 2017, 05:04 PM) *
True. Anyway, we'll see what happens, I'll be disappointed if we end up stuck with Niang and Bacca while Kalinic is the striker we settle for.

We have to take advantage of the fact that we can spend whatever we want this summer as it won't be scrutinised by UEFA. But the options are very limited.

I think the way it's going, with each day that passes the chances of signing Auba decrease while the chance of singing Kalinic increases

That being said, I also think that the longer this drags with Atletico not doing anything on the Costa front, the chances for us to sign him increase as well. So I feel like we're playing a bit of Russian roulette here. We're taking our time on both Auba and Costa to see if a real chance to sign either opens up for us, while keeping Kalinic on ice in case of failing with the first 2

M&F said there would be no more acquisitions until after the 15th, so we only have a few more days to wait to find out what happens. Recent news around Auba is somewhat encouraging. As for Costa, he is now taking legal action against Chelsea. He will probably just wait until Atletico can get him, and I am not sure I would want him anyway.

The fact that there is no movement whatsoever on the sales side worries me more.
Forza Milan!
Linked to Dolberg. Perhaps he is "Mr. X."
Fillipo Simone
I don't think there is a Mr. X to be honest.

Anyway, according to Gazzetta and some other papers we are preparing a new assault for Aubameyang with the prospect of getting some extra money from China. Costa said definitively no to any other destination apart from Atletico Madrid. Kalinić said no to Everton and is waiting for Milan; he should be the new Tomasson.
Forza Milan!
Apparently, Villareal is interested in Bacca (link). Unfortunately, it is not clear they are willing to pay our asking price, and Bacca may not want to go there.
han2503
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Aug 14 2017, 01:59 PM) *
Apparently, Villareal is interested in Bacca (link). Unfortunately, it is not clear they are willing to pay our asking price, and Bacca may not want to go there.

It's said to be a 2m loan + 16m obligation

At this point I can't see us rejecting an offer like that. It's either now or never for Bacca if we want to get cash in return. Sky are saying talks are in advanced stages

I don't think Bacca can be picky anymore, no one is jumping through hoops trying to sign him and he's no longer being considered as part of the group at Milan
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 14 2017, 03:57 PM) *
It's said to be a 2m loan + 16m obligation

At this point I can't see us rejecting an offer like that. It's either now or never for Bacca if we want to get cash in return. Sky are saying talks are in advanced stages

I don't think Bacca can be picky anymore, no one is jumping through hoops trying to sign him and he's no longer being considered as part of the group at Milan

I would be real, real happy if we closed on those terms. The CM article I read made it sound like Villarreal (like Seville) was not willing to pay any money. However, I am still concerned that Bacca may insist on Seville. I hope he realizes that the alternative is to warm the bench (or sit in the stands), which surely he will want to avoid in a WC year.
han2503
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Aug 14 2017, 03:44 PM) *
I would be real, real happy if we closed on those terms. The CM article I read made it sound like Villarreal (like Seville) was not willing to pay any money. However, I am still concerned that Bacca may insist on Seville. I hope he realizes that the alternative is to warm the bench (or sit in the stands), which surely he will want to avoid in a WC year.

Carlos Bacca has left Milanello. He is getting closer to joining Villarreal. Bacca hasn't participated in training [Sky].

The media have reiterated that Bacca will only leave if it's an outright sale or obligation. He will not be going on an option. Finally this looks like it's going to finally come to an end, hopefully with decent cash to line out pockets.

Kalinic will most likely be closed this week as well

Now reports are saying that with the sale of Bacca we will sign 2 forwards Kalinic + a big name...
Fishdoll
This fish hopes to see more poultry in Milan soon then.
Danny
One thing we definitely know is Diego Costa isn't coming. And after preaching his attributes for long enough, I have now completely changed my mind and want him less than a genital wart.

He is a loathsome disgusting little puss-filled sputum, who will disrupt our dressing room. I don't care how good he is, I don't want him at Milan. Which is fine as he isn't coming.
han2503
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Aug 14 2017, 06:05 PM) *
This fish hopes to see more poultry in Milan soon then.

Il Gallo?

I think we gave up on him. The only big name that can come atm is Auba and even he is a major long shot

QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 14 2017, 06:08 PM) *
One thing we definitely know is Diego Costa isn't coming. And after preaching his attributes for long enough, I have now completely changed my mind and want him less than a genital wart.

He is a loathsome disgusting little puss-filled sputum, who will disrupt our dressing room. I don't care how good he is, I don't want him at Milan. Which is fine as he isn't coming.

The only way I'd want him here is if he were 100% invested in the project, atm it's looking like he'd rather rot for a year in Brazil than go anywhere aside from Atletico. What an idiot. I think he'd doing this partly to spite Chelsea tbh






Agreement between Villarreal and Milan for Bacca could be for around €16-18M [@AlfredoPedulla]

Considering we could have gotten the full 30m last summer from WHU this is a bit of a blow. But it had to be done, his value next summer would have been close to 0
TheOgre
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 14 2017, 12:15 PM) *
Il Gallo?

I think we gave up on him. The only big name that can come atm is Auba and even he is a major long shot


The only way I'd want him here is if he were 100% invested in the project, atm it's looking like he'd rather rot for a year in Brazil than go anywhere aside from Atletico. What an idiot. I think he'd doing this partly to spite Chelsea tbh






Agreement between Villarreal and Milan for Bacca could be for around €16-18M [@AlfredoPedulla]

Considering we could have gotten the full 30m last summer from WHU this is a bit of a blow. But it had to be done, his value next summer would have been close to 0



As far from stellar as Bacca was this last season, he did still help us reach EL. Who knows what B&G would have done with that 30mil last summer.

EL and 18mil>30mil and 7th place

Who knows who wouldn't have come this summer if we weren't playing in Europe

Maybe I'm just an optimist.
Danny
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 14 2017, 06:15 PM) *
Il Gallo?

I think we gave up on him. The only big name that can come atm is Auba and even he is a major long shot


The only way I'd want him here is if he were 100% invested in the project, atm it's looking like he'd rather rot for a year in Brazil than go anywhere aside from Atletico. What an idiot. I think he'd doing this partly to spite Chelsea tbh


I don't want him here. He's unprofessional. He's been fined for ditching Chelsea's pre-season training and on the pitch his conduct at times is deplorable.

I've overlooked the latter in favour of his ability, but the more recent developments make him toxic.

It's a no from me.
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 14 2017, 06:15 PM) *
Carlos Bacca has left Milanello. He is getting closer to joining Villarreal. Bacca hasn't participated in training [Sky].

The media have reiterated that Bacca will only leave if it's an outright sale or obligation. He will not be going on an option. Finally this looks like it's going to finally come to an end, hopefully with decent cash to line out pockets.

Kalinic will most likely be closed this week as well

Now reports are saying that with the sale of Bacca we will sign 2 forwards Kalinic + a big name...

Apparently, loan with an obligation to buy at 17-18M. If so, I will be very happy. (Niang is next, and apparently Torino is interested.)
Forza Milan!
And Romagnoli is back in training with the team (link).
han2503
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Aug 14 2017, 07:45 PM) *
Apparently, loan with an obligation to buy at 17-18M. If so, I will be very happy. (Niang is next, and apparently Torino is interested.)

Apparently Toro bought someone from Roma (can't remember his name) so that rules them out. The only clubs who would be willing to pay what we want for him (~18m) would be English clubs, and atm no one seems to be clamouring for him. I'm really interested to know what happened when we had supposedly agreed a deal with Everton for that much for him. Did he really reject it, or was there no deal to begin with? I can't really see anyone else coming in for him and paying that kind of money. Looks like we could be stuck with him for another season

QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Aug 14 2017, 07:49 PM) *
And Romagnoli is back in training with the team (link).

Good news all round today, I hope Biglia makes a quick recovery.
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 15 2017, 09:21 AM) *
Apparently Toro bought someone from Roma (can't remember his name) so that rules them out. The only clubs who would be willing to pay what we want for him (~18m) would be English clubs, and atm no one seems to be clamouring for him. I'm really interested to know what happened when we had supposedly agreed a deal with Everton for that much for him. Did he really reject it, or was there no deal to begin with? I can't really see anyone else coming in for him and paying that kind of money. Looks like we could be stuck with him for another season

Sounds like there is still a possibility, though the situation appears to be somewhat complicated (link). Apparently Miha wants Niang, but so does Montella. Milan is willing to include him as part of a deal for Belotti, but Cairo is not going for that.
han2503
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Aug 15 2017, 01:55 PM) *
Sounds like there is still a possibility, though the situation appears to be somewhat complicated (link). Apparently Miha wants Niang, but so does Montella. Milan is willing to include him as part of a deal for Belotti, but Cairo is not going for that.

I think the Belotti door is closed for this summer, we'll have to wait until next year

As for Niang, I find it hard to believe that Montella would want to hold on to him that much. He's the one that wanted him out last year and he hasn't done anything impressive bar the game vs Bayern to warrant Montella batting for him.



Anyway, on the Bacca front, Mediaset Premium saying is a 2m loan + 16m obligation. On the other hand sky are saying loan + option for those same amounts...

Sky are the more reliable source. So let's all pray that Bacca has a blinder of a season in Spain or we'll be back to square one next summer if the loan is really with an option
han2503
Bacca to Villarreal will be a paid €2,5M loan with option to buy for €18M, total cost could be €20,5M.

Hopefully paying money upfront will push them into making it a permanent deal if he does well (I think he'll manage a good number of goals in Spain if they can integrate him into the team well)
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 15 2017, 03:36 PM) *
Bacca to Villarreal will be a paid €2,5M loan with option to buy for €18M, total cost could be €20,5M.

Hopefully paying money upfront will push them into making it a permanent deal if he does well (I think he'll manage a good number of goals in Spain if they can integrate him into the team well)

Go Bacca !!!
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 15 2017, 03:29 PM) *
I think the Belotti door is closed for this summer, we'll have to wait until next year

As for Niang, I find it hard to believe that Montella would want to hold on to him that much. He's the one that wanted him out last year and he hasn't done anything impressive bar the game vs Bayern to warrant Montella batting for him.

Yeah, we are unlikely to get "il Gallo" and we are probably stuck with Niang.

QUOTE
Anyway, on the Bacca front, Mediaset Premium saying is a 2m loan + 16m obligation. On the other hand sky are saying loan + option for those same amounts...

Sky are the more reliable source. So let's all pray that Bacca has a blinder of a season in Spain or we'll be back to square one next summer if the loan is really with an option

Yup, looks like no obligation (link). Deal not quite official yet, but looks like there is closure (well, at least for now). Have to hope he does well in Spain.
Fishdoll
So the Barcelona papers are running a story that because of the Paulinho transfer, Sergi Roberto wants to leave - and that Milan and the Gobbi as well as some English clubs are interested.

Could be useful in midfield.
Forza Milan!
Kalinic deal in progress (link)
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Aug 15 2017, 06:35 PM) *
So the Barcelona papers are running a story that because of the Paulinho transfer, Sergi Roberto wants to leave - and that Milan and the Gobbi as well as some English clubs are interested.

Could be useful in midfield.

Looks like he is more interested in EPL than Serie A (link)
Fishdoll
Not going to go by anything an English tabloid says in that regard.

The original article in Mundo Deportivo gives no hint about his preferences. The one in Sport (which express actually mostly faithfully translates) mentions a preference for an English club.

Not entirely sure we need him or are particularly interested. Would hate to see a decent player go to that tactical desert, though.
Forza Milan!
Linked to Dolberg
Forza Milan!
Sooo happy we got rid of DS! (link)
Fishdoll
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Aug 15 2017, 02:04 PM) *
Sooo happy we got rid of DS! (link)


I was even before the Supercoppa. That play at the end sealed it.

Sad, really, as he seemed to have so much potential.
Fillipo Simone
I see we're being linked with Vidal now. Hmmm...

Link
Danny
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 16 2017, 08:48 AM) *
I see we're being linked with Vidal now. Hmmm...

Link


Theoretically it's a wild yes from me but we've got Calhanoglu? And Jack? And Suso? And...well...everyone in that kind of position really.
Fishdoll
I'm not sure I believe the Vidal thing (or the Sergi Roberto thing). That said, these rumors show that Milan's stock has improved drastically over this window if the club's being tossed out as a possible destination for some rather good players.
Jack Sparrow
Bacca sold. It's official. No clear details on the finances though. Looks like it is a 2.5 MM paid load with a 15.5 MM option to buy.

At the same time rumours of a Niang to Spartak for 20MM, but he's not convinced of the move.
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