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amancik
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 12 2017, 01:42 AM) *
So I'm just wondering what's everyone's​ take on Veratti?

Obviously he's undeniably great. What I'm wondering is if we are looking to splash cash, do you guys think he would be a player to splurge on?

This just came to my mind after seeing this pop up:

BARCELONA will bid £87.8million for Marco Verratti tomorrow, according to reports.
Italian journalist Paolo Bargiggia claims the Paris Saint-Germain star’s agent Donato Di Campli is to meet Barcelona bosses in Milan to talk through a deal


Yes I would but not for that sum. That's close to EUR100mn. I would take him if he's valued between EUR40mn and EUR50mn.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 11 2017, 02:03 PM) *
And one more thing. Plizzari had a very good U-20 tournament I hear. It's good news. Maybe we should start looking for a seasoned keeper for first spot until he grows more.

Donna will most likely renew his contract this week, I think we should loan Plizzari out though, I've read that he's regarded very highly by the coaching staff so it's no use to keep him as the 3rd choice or with the Primavera if he's ready to take the step

We have Storari for now who can be backup without any trouble or complaints

QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jun 11 2017, 03:16 PM) *
Still hoping we can keep Donna, and recent news appears to be positive. But it is good to have a good backup option.

I don't think we should keep him as a backup but should loan him out, it would be a waste to keep him on the bench when he could be out gaining valuable experience with another Serie A side.

Jack made a good point, we have a lot of good keepers right now. and we need to make sure to manage them correctly, there's also Luca Crosta who was on loan at Cagliari last season, and he looked very impressive against us

QUOTE (amancik @ Jun 11 2017, 06:24 PM) *
Yes I would but not for that sum. That's close to EUR100mn. I would take him if he's valued between EUR40mn and EUR50mn.

With the prices inflated as they are today, Verratti is definitely worth that imo. I just don't think we have a shot in hell of ever getting him tbh. Maybe Real would go for him since they're getting board of winning with the same players and they'd want to freshen things up a bit
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 11 2017, 03:54 PM) *
Unrelated sort of. We've had our FFP meeting wherein we provide a recovery plan to UEFA pushed to October. Apparently our current plan was too unrealistic. unsure.gif For e.g we quoted merchandise sales targets larger than what the biggest clubs in the world get. sad.gif A bit worried again to be honest.

I haven't read that bit tbh, I don't know what the problem is, and it could be that they're over inflating projections because money will be coming in through other channels.
han2503
This just in:

BREAKING: Milan are meeting with Jorge Mendes. Andre Silva is now in pole position for the striker role. Milan trying to close the deal. #MN

Silva has a €60M release clause, but will try to bring the price down to €45-50M. Milan now trying to find an agreement with his agent. [MN]

Silva is open to the move. During the meeting Fassone and Mirabelli are also expected to discuss James Rodriguez, but it's more complicated.
TriniKing_CE
Silva to Milan is said to be a done deal. He will have his medical tomorrow.

Last rumored fee I saw was €30mil + bonuses. If this is true. That's a great deal!

Edit: Record (Portuguese paper) is stating €38mil, while MilanNews is saying €36mil. Both agreed it's a 5 year deal.
d'Arc.LP
Silva has medical tests scheduled in Milanello tomorrow. A good hit.
amancik
Don't know much about Andre Silva but his stats are quite impressive. EUR38mn for a 21 year old is a good price. He's currently doing well for Portugal so that's a plus. Other than that, I'm more interested in getting a great midfielder than a striker at this moment. Which brings me to Emil Forsberg.

I read that we are being linked with Emil Forsberg. I didn't know much about this guy apart from he helped RB Leipzig to finish second and topped the Bundesliga chart with the most assists. He racked up a staggering 19 assists in 30 appearances. I never saw him play before but after looking at the stats, I immediately searched for him on Youtube. This guy impresses me. I read that the club may be willing to part with EUR30mn. I say, we should take him. I know you can't really rely on Youtube clips to pass judgment on players but I'm more impressed with the way he plays rather than his assists. He appears to be calm on the ball, has good dribbling ability, can take set-pieces well and has good football intelligence. He might just be what we need for creativity. That being said, my dream signing would still be either James Rodriguez or Javier Pastore for the midfield.
Fillipo Simone
Is it? How good is this Silva guy?
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 11 2017, 05:54 PM) *
I think we have too many good keepers right now. Gabriel for e.g. is someone who I'd term a No.2 keeper. But he wants first team football so... unsure.gif

I think what we do need is to build a tactically flexible team. Last season our main weaknesses were dependence on certain players without adequate depth to cover them. E.g. Romagnoli, Bonaventura, Suso. etc.

I hope we can set our targets out straight. Do we want to play it like Man Utd, where we surrender the league pretty early but make a massive charge at Europa League? I dunno.

As for the names - I'm against 70 MM for a striker. Belotti I insist will need to be paired up with another player. I like Emil Forsberg. He's been key to Leipzig this season right? Along with Keita?

For midfield, one target I'd love us to chase is one of the Dortmund boys - Weigl or Pulisic. Both are different players and I think have more of a ceiling than say Tolisso? But Filippo watches Bundesliga more these days - so he can tell us how these guys are.

Weigl (especially) and Pulisic (perhaps) would be good additions, but Borussia won't let go of them. They are key players who can only grow (in terms of quality and market value), so there is zero chance of us getting those two guys. What we need IMO is find ourselves our very own Pulisic and Weigl.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (amancik @ Jun 12 2017, 01:26 AM) *
Don't know much about Andre Silva but his stats are quite impressive. EUR38mn for a 21 year old is a good price. He's currently doing well for Portugal so that's a plus. Other than that, I'm more interested in getting a great midfielder than a striker at this moment. Which brings me to Emil Forsberg.

I read that we are being linked with Emil Forsberg. I didn't know much about this guy apart from he helped RB Leipzig to finish second and topped the Bundesliga chart with the most assists. He racked up a staggering 19 assists in 30 appearances. I never saw him play before but after looking at the stats, I immediately searched for him on Youtube. This guy impresses me. I read that the club may be willing to part with EUR30mn. I say, we should take him. I know you can't really rely on Youtube clips to pass judgment on players but I'm more impressed with the way he plays rather than his assists. He appears to be calm on the ball, has good dribbling ability, can take set-pieces well and has good football intelligence. He might just be what we need for creativity. That being said, my dream signing would still be either James Rodriguez or Javier Pastore for the midfield.

Really?

Well, maybe I got spoiled a but 17 goals in 41 games for Porto isn't impressive IMO, it's okay. I think I watched him play only against Juventus, which wasn't a good game for him. Other then that I don't know a thing about this guy, but it's a small disappointment considering Morata, Costa and some other very good names mentioned before. But hey, he might turn into the next big thing.

What we need is a great midfielder who's capable of organizing and creating. Forsberg surely is overrated and overpriced at this moment, one very good season for a 25 year old winger in the Bundesliga is exactly the kind of record we should avoid IMO. Also, we need a central metronome IMO, not a winger. Keita should do the trick if we decide on signing wingers.
amancik
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 12 2017, 07:50 AM) *
Really?

Well, maybe I got spoiled a but 17 goals in 41 games for Porto isn't impressive IMO, it's okay. I think I watched him play only against Juventus, which wasn't a good game for him. Other then that I don't know a thing about this guy, but it's a small disappointment considering Morata, Costa and some other very good names mentioned before. But hey, he might turn into the next big thing.

What we need is a great midfielder who's capable of organizing and creating. Forsberg surely is overrated and overpriced at this moment, one very good season for a 25 year old winger in the Bundesliga is exactly the kind of record we should avoid IMO. Also, we need a central metronome IMO, not a winger. Keita should do the trick if we decide on signing wingers.


If my sources are correct it's 16 goals in 32 league games. 22 goals in a total of 44 appearances in all competitions. 7 goals in 8 appearances for Portugal so far. It's not a world-beating record, but it's certainly a good one for a 21-year old I think. The impressive part is the one with Portugal. Portugal has been longing for a proper centre forward since Pauleta and it appears to be that he may the answer they've been waiting for a long time.

You may have a better idea with regards to Forsberg so I'm not going to argue on that one. I was thinking of him as a winger not as a CM. Regardless, 19 assists in 30 appearances is not something to be scoffed at. That kind of stat rivals Mesut Ozil's.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 11 2017, 11:50 PM) *
Really?

Well, maybe I got spoiled a but 17 goals in 41 games for Porto isn't impressive IMO, it's okay. I think I watched him play only against Juventus, which wasn't a good game for him. Other then that I don't know a thing about this guy, but it's a small disappointment considering Morata, Costa and some other very good names mentioned before. But hey, he might turn into the next big thing.


*21 goals in 44 games

I've never seen Andre Silva play so I can't say how good he is. He looks good on YouTube. Fast, good technique and all, so that's a start. He's also considered one of the most promising youngsters in Europe right now, so that's another plus. Here's to hoping he'll turn into something great.
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 12 2017, 01:04 AM) *
*21 goals in 44 games

I've never seen Andre Silva play so I can't say how good he is. He looks good on YouTube. Fast, good technique and all, so that's a start. He's also considered one of the most promising youngsters in Europe right now, so that's another plus. Here's to hoping he'll turn into something great.

I am happy with this. We do not have infinite money right now, and ~40M for a forward is about the right amount we should pay, while we strengthen the midfield. And at that price, he seems like a decent buy.
TriniKing_CE
Andre Silva has arrived for his medical about 45mins ago.


Per Milannews.it, Andre Silva has already gone through the specific MilanLab tests and will only do his general medicals today before joining up with the national side for the Confederations Cup. It is unclear whether there will be a presentation today.

Meanwhile, La Gazzetta dello Sport add that Andre Silva may not be the only attacker to arrive in the transfer window.
d'Arc.LP
Quite happy with our transfer window up until now. If we invest the rest of the transfers budget - which should be 40-50 mil in a midfielder, I seriously think that we would be a Scudetto contender. Sell Zapata, Paletta, Abate, Poli, Montolivo, Bertolacci and Bacca, buy Conti and a winger.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (amancik @ Jun 12 2017, 02:02 AM) *
If my sources are correct it's 16 goals in 32 league games. 22 goals in a total of 44 appearances in all competitions. 7 goals in 8 appearances for Portugal so far. It's not a world-beating record, but it's certainly a good one for a 21-year old I think. The impressive part is the one with Portugal. Portugal has been longing for a proper centre forward since Pauleta and it appears to be that he may the answer they've been waiting for a long time.

It sounds great. But then you realize that Silva scored 7 goals against - Hungary, Cyprus, Latvia, Andorra and the Faroe Islands. So I remain skeptical.

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jun 12 2017, 10:48 AM) *
Quite happy with our transfer window up until now. If we invest the rest of the transfers budget - which should be 40-50 mil in a midfielder, I seriously think that we would be a Scudetto contender. Sell Zapata, Paletta, Abate, Poli, Montolivo, Bertolacci and Bacca, buy Conti and a winger.

You do realize that what we need most is a midfielder?
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 12 2017, 11:10 AM) *
You do realize that what we need most is a midfielder?


Yes, that is why I said that now we must concentrate on a midfielder and he should be the most valued transfer we make this summer. But if we get a midfielder - a good one, I don't see how we wont be competitive.
TriniKing_CE
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TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jun 12 2017, 04:48 AM) *
Quite happy with our transfer window up until now. If we invest the rest of the transfers budget - which should be 40-50 mil in a midfielder, I seriously think that we would be a Scudetto contender. Sell Zapata, Paletta, Abate, Poli, Montolivo, Bertolacci and Bacca, buy Conti and a winger.

Agreed on the fact that the transfer window has been a good one so far, but let's not forget we need depth within the squad so some of the players you mentioned would be needed as backup options. For example Paletta or Zapata would have to remain I imagine, unless another CB is brought in.
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 12 2017, 11:41 AM) *
Agreed on the fact that the transfer window has been a good one so far, but let's not forget we need depth within the squad so some of the players you mentioned would be needed as backup options. For example Paletta or Zapata would have to remain I imagine, unless another CAB is brought in.


Dont forget wr have Gomez and we should promote a youth defender also. Maybe we might keep Zapata but not need to keep Paletta also.
Fillipo Simone
With all the inexperience and newcomers in defense, it would be wise to keep a few seasoned Serie A vets in our roster. Not that I necessarily think we should cling on Zapata and Paletta or anything like that, but...
han2503
Honestly, I think the Silva move is a good one. And for the quoted 36m it's a no brainer when you considering what Morata, Aubameyang and Belotti would cost.

I'd rather spend the extra 40m or so that would be required to sign any one of those players to add to what we want to spend for a midfielder and get someone really great into the fold.

Also, getting the striker position done and dusted will allow us to concentrate more on midfield and wings

I also read that Juve are close to signing Douglas Costa from Bayern which could push Keita our way.

I personally think that the regista will be our big signing this summer, that or James Rodriguez and we go for a 4-2-3-1
han2503
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jun 12 2017, 09:49 AM) *
Dont forget wr have Gomez and we should promote a youth defender also. Maybe we might keep Zapata but not need to keep Paletta also.

If it were up to me, I'd keep Paletta and Gomez as the bench options (though Paletta might not want to accept that role and we might be forced to sell him)

I'd also keep Abate and Monto as the first choice back ups for their respective positions and loan out Loca and Calabria, but once again, this is not up to us and these players might want starting roles elsewhere.

We'll just have to wait and see in terms of what happens with player sales. Because if we really do sell all the players rumoured to be on the transfer list, we'd be threadbare for next season so we'd have to look into signing bench players as well.
Jack Sparrow
Right now, I'm actually hugely in favour of bringing back the Zlatan. If only we didn't have to deal with Raiola and his shite. 21 years old is a little young to be leading the forward line for a club with CL aspirations.

Actually, we could just hold on to Bacca now I think. We won't get finishers of that calibre at that sort of wage packet really.
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 12 2017, 12:29 PM) *
If it were up to me, I'd keep Paletta and Gomez as the bench options (though Paletta might not want to accept that role and we might be forced to sell him)

I'd also keep Abate and Monto as the first choice back ups for their respective positions and loan out Loca and Calabria, but once again, this is not up to us and these players might want starting roles elsewhere.

We'll just have to wait and see in terms of what happens with player sales. Because if we really do sell all the players rumoured to be on the transfer list, we'd be threadbare for next season so we'd have to look into signing bench players as well.


Yeah but considering Abates and Montolios wagesto Calabrias and Locatellis, I think it would be more cost wise to keep the later. Also I think that they would grow more in Milan learning from older players and getting playing time from time to time than going to play 1st team football at Ascoli or who knows where.
Danny
We've gone from Morata and Costa, to Silva. It's a heck of a climb down. It really does sound like we couldn't get the best so we've plumped for sloppy seconds. This is the first signing I've been totally unimpressed with.

Just hope he proves me completely wrong.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 12 2017, 10:30 AM) *
Right now, I'm actually hugely in favour of bringing back the Zlatan. If only we didn't have to deal with Raiola and his shite. 21 years old is a little young to be leading the forward line for a club with CL aspirations.

Actually, we could just hold on to Bacca now I think. We won't get finishers of that calibre at that sort of wage packet really.

Yeah, I'd definately try to get Zlatan since he's available, especially since we're trying to sell both Bacca and Lapa it seems. But, even if Zlatan isn't an option, I'd personally keep Lapa and get rid of Bacca ASAP. Bacca has gone downhill and his laziness certainly doesn't help out. His only redeeming attribute is his finishing and even that was deserting him late last season. Bacca definately needs to be sold so we can recoup at least a fraction of what we paid for him.

If we build a proper midfield I personally don't see a reason to worry about the attack, we'll score goals either way. What you have to consider with Andre Silva is that he isn't just a poacher/finisher, he's definately an all rounder. Think of him as a Morata-lite for now, and he definately has the potential to become great

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jun 12 2017, 10:38 AM) *
Yeah but considering Abates and Montolios wagesto Calabrias and Locatellis, I think it would be more cost wise to keep the later. Also I think that they would grow more in Milan learning from older players and getting playing time from time to time than going to play 1st team football at Ascoli or who knows where.

True. Monto, Abate and Bacca are currently our highest earners, so part of the reason for wanting to get rid of them could be that, especially since they'll be used for rotation, the management might deem them not worth keeping since Loca and Calabria can still do the job just as well (if not better in Loca's case)
han2503
QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 12 2017, 10:47 AM) *
We've gone from Morata and Costa, to Silva. It's a heck of a climb down. It really does sound like we couldn't get the best so we've plumped for sloppy seconds. This is the first signing I've been totally unimpressed with.

Just hope he proves me completely wrong.

Were we ever really considering Costa? I personally don't think so, the media was just throwing his name in because we've been in talks with his agent.

Morata wants United, what can you do?

Still, I think Silva is a good signing and will surprise many.
Fillipo Simone
All I know is we need some stability. 3/4 players we've singed are players with no Serie A experience. Shipping off everyone from Abate to Bacca and leaving a roster with new signings and youngsters wouldn't be wise.

I'm all for Zlatan. Make it happen.
Danny
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 12 2017, 10:53 AM) *
All I know is we need some stability. 3/4 players we've singed are players with no Serie A experience. Shipping off everyone from Abate to Bacca and leaving a roster with new signings and youngsters wouldn't be wise.

I'm all for Zlatan. Make it happen.


Problem is he's out. He won't be available till October at the earliest.
Danny
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 12 2017, 10:53 AM) *
Were we ever really considering Costa? I personally don't think so, the media was just throwing his name in because we've been in talks with his agent.


Yeah we were, we just can't afford him.

QUOTE
Morata wants United, what can you do?

Still, I think Silva is a good signing and will surprise many.


I hope so.
han2503
QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 12 2017, 11:05 AM) *
Problem is he's out. He won't be available till October at the earliest.

I'd still take him in a heart beat
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 12 2017, 01:11 PM) *
I'd still take him in a heart beat


+1
Fillipo Simone
Diego Costa link seems to linger on. Still hope?
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 12 2017, 02:07 PM) *
Diego Costa link seems to linger on. Still hope?


Why would we hope to get him ?
Danny
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 12 2017, 12:07 PM) *
Diego Costa link seems to linger on. Still hope?


He was asked about us. Said we're great. What else is he going to say.
Forza Milan!
I still think Silva was a better choice than some of the more expensive options. We are not going to build our dream team in a single transfer season, and we need to set aside some money to get a decent midfield. BTW, not sure I would have been happy with Costa. And for the wages he would want, I would rather get Zatlan (though he seems to be headed to the LA Galaxy).

I think we need a more seasoned striker to go along with SIlva. Zatlan would be ideal, if not I would keep either one of Lapa or Bacca. I not a huge fan of Bacca, but perhaps with a decent midfield as well as other scoring threats he may do a little better.

Getting seriously annoyed at Keita. Looks like he would rather worm the bench at Juve than start for us.
d'Arc.LP
DONNARUMMA to GQ: "I'm looking for a house in the centre of Milano. I'm very attached to Milan."


Donnarumma: "I'm happy because club and my agent know my will to stay."

Donnarumma: "I'm calm because all the parties to this negotiations know my will. I'm very attached to Milan."

amancik
Ronaldo said Andre Silva could be his heir in the Portugese national team when he retires.
d'Arc.LP

Meeting is currently ongoing between Donnarumma, his family and Mino Raiola in Montecarlo to respond to Milan's renewal offer [Milannews.it].

Verratti's agent has arrived at Casa Milan to meet Mirabelli. [Milannews]

Agent Di Campli to Milannews.it: "I will meet with Mirabelli, but not for Verratti."

Musacchio has chosen number 17, while Andre Silva has chosen 9. Both Zapata and Lapadula are on the market. [Sky]
d'Arc.LP
OFFICIAL: ANDRÉ SILVA IS A NEW AC MILAN’S PLAYER

https://www.acmilan.com/en/news/official-st...c-milans-player
amancik
Next target world-class midfielder please. Then, we're good to go. Only a matter of deciding who should stay and who should leave after that.
d'Arc.LP
I am loving Mirabelli and Fassone right now ! I love everything about them, how they operate and the targets that they follow. They are not afraid to say that this is not the last transfer and they always aim for those that we need.
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (amancik @ Jun 12 2017, 07:34 PM) *
Next target world-class midfielder please. Then, we're good to go. Only a matter of deciding who should stay and who should leave after that.


This is not the last transfer. From what I read, we will sign a winger and also a world class midfielder who will sign at June 18 (for Montellas birthday).
X-Offender
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jun 12 2017, 05:36 PM) *
This is not the last transfer. From what I read, we will sign a winger and also a world class midfielder who will sign at June 18 (for Montellas birthday).


Hopefully that world class midfielder won't be Biglia.
X-Offender
According to Marca, we're very close to signing Borja Valero for 10M.

Please only as backup! Please only as backup!

EDIT: MilanNews says that there has been no contact and we're not interested in Valero.

Fucking Marca and their usual made-up BS!
Danny
Have to say my two sides have both been very fast and very hard in this market.

Both had woeful seasons, and both needed to rebuild the squad.

And both have done a massive amount in the past three or four weeks.

Makes a change.
X-Offender
Mirabelli met with Marcelo Simonian today, who is the agent, among others, of Pastore.

PSG don't seem interested to sell him, but it's something to keep an eye on.

Link

Pastore would be awesome. He's one of those players, along with the likes of Fabregas and James that would make us title contenders.
TriniKing_CE
Danny
Decent player, wouldn't say no.
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