What's so special about the shirts? They're just plain yellow

Just classy looking IMO. I like the slight black/white trim on it.

It's like our aways some years, they're mostly just white but look brilliant.

Sometimes, han, yellow is all a grown up man needs.

Inter won 7-0 today

Roma finally beat Lazio in the derby (2-0) after few years, Ljajić was very good (earned and scored a penalty).

Tevez, another Galliani's summer flame, also scored today as Juve beat Verona 2-1.

Many CL contenders are looking good while we are a total mess.

Can't believe we missed out on Ljajic. That's going to be our biggest regret. Tevez in only going to be a spark for Juve, he's not a long term solution, but Ljajic is such an amazing young talent.

The only thing that p!sses me off about Tevez is that we basically funded his move to Juve when we supposedly couldn't afford him when we actually had the chance to get him.

This summer has been a total mess, whichever way you look at it.

Kaka and Poli were the only moves which were smart imo. Hopefully we haven't lost out on Honda as well

Gennaro Gattuso got fired as palermo coach.... wrong plaece to start one's career imo...

Look at Inter, on the attack yet they're still not getting stupidly caught out on counters on the turn-overs

That's what a disciplined defence and midfield does, even when their FBs are in the opponent's side of the pitch

2-1 to inter nearly the end of the match god damn it !

was nice to watch ambrosini !

I'm personally a massive fan of a back 3, it allows for so much more flexibility.

Well he could have done better with a stable club. Then again its experience I guess.

As much as I can't stand Inter, I just have to applaud them. They basically play with the same team as last year that ended ninth, just a different (and competent) coach seems to be making all the difference. Something to think about.

Meh, I personally am not a fan. I was reading the Juve forum a few weeks ago and they absolutely hate that Conte uses it.

I just think that for it to work, everything has to be perfect for it. The tactics, the players and most importantly the coach has to know how to implement it correctly. And imo, the only coaches who have done so successfully are Mazzari and Conte.

We tried it last season - it was a mess. Pandelli uses it at times for Italy with the SAME players who play it at Juve and 99% of the time it doesn't work


This

Whenever I check on Juventuz they basically laugh at anyone who mentions a back 4.

*They don't have a left back.
*They need 3 in midfield, so a back 4 would mean 3 up front which they simply don't have the players for.
*Their best players can't be on the pitch together, or will be played out of position.

3 at the back requires very good defenders with good discipline, so yeah it wouldn't work at Milan.

They have Bonucci in their defence, not the best picture of discipline and "great"

And last time I was reading the Juventuz forum in the CL thread they were complaining about the 3-man defence system. Yes their argument is that if they us 4 at the back then their CMs wouldn't be able to fit into the side, but they're not happy with it, at least it's a split on how they want their team to play

A back 3 requires not just good defenders, but proper tactics. I already mentioned Italy as a great example, the same players that play in a 3-man backline for Juve deployed in the Azzurri line-up is usually one huge mess. So the coaching, tactics and drilling behind it are more important than the quality of the defenders.

Just look at Inter as a great example of this. Their only good defender is Ranocchia, and even he is prone to mistakes and idiotic moments.

Napoli already leading 2-0.

Bonucci is sweeper, he doesn't need to be an excellent defender, but he's a fantastic passer for a CB. It's why they need to play 3-5-2.

Imo, the reason they need to play that formation is because of their CMs. Too many great ones and you can't really leave any of them out.

Yes, Bonucci is a great passer, but everything else? He's an average defender at best. To switch to a back 4, he'd obviously be the ones to drop, as is the situation with Italy when they play with 4 at the back

I think it's partly to do with their defense too though. Chiellini is not a left back, Asamoah isn't either. Are they going to start Peluso there? I think they're better sticking with a 3, regardless of their midfield.

Well I don't disagree with any of that.

Agreed on the LB bit. Oddly enough it's the only area where Juve don't really have an option it they did choose to go with a back 4.

Turin derby in 3 hours.

2-1 to Juve, they seem to like that score as of late and are seemingly conceding goals on a regular basis as well

Tevez' open goal header before the goal...

I seriously don't give a f@ck about this league anymore. F@ck this corrupt sport altogether in fact. Juventus are clearly cheating again and racking up wins with referee decisions. Milan somehow gets those last minute calls too once in a while but they just seem to lack the "influence" of Juve.

What happened? I didn't see anything especially weird today. About the biggest thing I felt the ref may have got wrong was only giving Immobile a yellow card, you can't dive in on someone from behind like that.

Apparently the Juve goal was offside, don't know what happened exactly, I didn't watch it

Oh yeah, now you mention it I think they did say something like that after the game. I only saw one angle so can't have an opinion.

EDIT: Looking at the replay, the defender had his arms around Tevez' neck, then he was offside. So Juve's arguement against it would've probably been it should've been a penalty and probably a red card as well.

On the contrary, I think this season's Serie A is by far the best in a long while. You've got 4-5 teams all fighting for top spot so far. Too bad we're not in there as well.

As for Juve's offside I goal, I don't think we Milan fans of all people should complain given the insane amount of dubious/inexistent penalties we received last season.

Roma 2-0 up already.

Watching other teams actually play football while we hoof it around really depresses me, so I won't even bother watching

Roma is kicking ***.

We will need a miracle to finish in top3 place.

If we go by the last miracle that took us there, then we would have to loss a couple more games

Last season, when we barely made it, was one thing, this season is completely another. This season you have a much improved Roma, Inter and Fiorentina all fighting for that last top3 place while Juve and Napoli are pretty much a lock. And we are still the same crape, if not worse.

It's amazing what playing with a modern formation, with exciting players, can do for a team. 5-0, Roma with another easy win and clean sheet.

We're stuck with a bunch of players who can't even run playing in a formation that doesn't even work!

Technically speaking, we have a good squad if Kaka gives us anywhere between 60-70% of his peak potential.

But pointing to the obvious, Serie A has strengthened and it is each team's right to have aspirations and present them in the standings of the table. However, the league is not over in December. It is a long haul race, with many mistakes from every side in the race. Many teams will burn out , maybe an injury crisis, you never know.

But writing off Milan when it is only October is insane, as the table currently shows us at 8 points off the top. Even if the deficit stretched to 16 points, Milan would still find a rosy patch during the season and recover.

Yeah after last season it's madness to write us off now. If we win a few, Roma lose against Napoli, Napoli lose to Juve. Suddenly we're a few points off the CL spaces and it's not even Christmas. Don't start worrying until the end of January and we're 10+ points out.

It is inmensely frustrating, though.

Milan always have a hard time at the start we're never the quickest off the blocks..

Last time we won more than half of our first 6 games was 2005-06 season.

Wrong call to give Roma the penalty there, foul happened outside the area.

The referee behind the goal is just ridiculous, why lean over to try to get a closer look when you're not even going to correct these wrong decisions?

just chexked it is 3-0 at HT... so roma look likely for third this season

Maybe they can even aim for higher...

Ridiculous.

They're easily looking like the best team in the league right now. Whether they can maintain it is another question altogether. They're playing amazing football, they have an amazing set of midfielders that work well together. I can see them pushing for 3rd. We'll see.

At this point I can't see us getting there. I can't even see us occupying a EL spot at the end of the season with the way we're playing.

Juve-Napoli-Roma. That's gonna be one hell of a battle.

And why shouldn't they? I personally love the way the league is faring out this season. Serie A has made a step up in quality, reflected by all of Juve, inter, Roma, Fiorentina and Napoli. Obviously this penalizes Milan, but the collective of the league taking a step up is long overdo!

A strong Serie A will serve Milan better in the long run. We can not expect to always be on top. We can not expect to always be winners. Though our desire is to win the big trophies, it is also the desire of other teams who have made immense efforts ala Napoli, Roma, Fiorentina and Juve.

inter are on their way to getting a lump sum from their new part-owner. The same will definitely put them in a comfortable position come January.

Milan on the other hand are dealt a shitty hand, Silvio is going through one of the lowest points both on a personal level, business-wise and political. I.E. not the best time to be a Milan fan if you ask me. But as always, Forza Milan!

Milan still has so much potential, even without Silvio constantly bankrolling the team as we're used to. That being said, we have some serious rotten apples in the management that need to be removed ASAP. First off Galliani, if he loves the Club so much then he needs to step back for the good of the side as he can no longer cut it. The Allegri fiasco as well as the terrible transfers have crippled this side. Wasting money that should be spent wisely on unnecessary players just to please a man because you like him on a personal level, this is a perfect example of how he always lets his personal feelings get in the way of making proper decisions that are for the good of the Club.

Ok...Galliani steps back, what's your plan though?

That's the thing. There really is no plan, except to say 'Off with their head'. I don't think anyone except Galliani can manage this period of instability right now. Perhaps when things stabilise he can move away. His sentimentality is a fault, but yes, we can do a lot worse than finishing in European places every year.

For me, if we just have a new more enterprising coach come in, we should start seeing some remarkable results.