Welcome back, brother.

We're interested in Diego Perotti (26) who apparently is having a good season at Genoa. Berlusconi wants him because he wants to play with a trequartista, especially since Honda will be busy in January at the Asian Cup.

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EDIT: Never seen the guy play, but Transfermarkt says he's a winger...

Thank you bro

Reluctantly forgiven

He played fairly good against us last week. In fact, the moment I saw him dribble and doing some (minor) flashy things I knew we'd be linked with him one way or the other.

Absolutely insane link with Liverpool thinking of bringing back Torres.

F*ck, we got revenge in '07, we ripped them off with Balo, they're gubbed out of the Champions League, they're 8mth in the EPL - I think that's enough. Torres going back there would just be cruel.

But I sure as hell want rid.

I wish we got Javier Hernandez instead of Torres back In Summer

Mancini now wanting Balotelli at Inter apparently. Sure Robbie, make them even worse why don't you ha.

I know that's not a Milan story but you have to laugh anyway.

Rayo Vallecano are interested in signing Michelangelo Albertazzi.

source: milanello/twitter

Woeful player. Happy to get rid of him. He's worse than Armero.

The agent of Ajax midfielder Lasse Schone confirms he had contacts with Milan, but suggests January may be a bit too early for a move.

Milan are reportedly likely to decrease the size of their squad this January as some of their players will be sold or nearing the end of their contracts.

One of the names considered as a replacement is Schone, and the player's agent Rob Groener refused to rule out the possibility of the player moving to the San Siro.

“Best ask Milan,” he said in an interview with MilanNews.

“I've had some contacts with the Rossoneri club. Schone is ready for a quality leap into one of the biggest Italian clubs.

“Ajax would rather not sell him in January but you never know. For sure, a summer transfer would be just the right moment.”

source: footballitalia

Yep.

What did we pay for him in total, 20m euros or something?

More or less. Completely failed to meet expectations. You can tell he's not very talented. Can't dribble opponents, gets clumsy on the ball, poor finishing. Any offer over €15 million and I would sell him on the spot.

Thing is it's only us 3 who seem to know he's not worth a d*mn. Don't let the secret out. The world thinks he's an incredibly talented hot prospect and him and his cool hairdo could net us £25M in this market.

Has he been THAAAT bad this season ?!

This season and from January to May of 2012. Not counting the 12/13 season cos he was injured. But yeah, he's mostly been crap during those periods.

Speaking of which, Mediaset suggests that we want to offer SES on loan to Roma in exchange for the loan of Destro. We're also interested in Nastasic of City. Another loan.

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Nastasić might be good. Destro is totally overrate, why do we even bother?

http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?s...=nastasic&#

Yes. Pure and simple.

August 2012 - early December that year was the only time in 4 years he looked half decent. 4 months of nearly 48. Nowhere near good enough.

Taarabt linked for yet another window. Says he'll take a pay cut to rejoin us.

Destro is decent. He's certainly better than Torres and Pazzini.



No, thank you. We don't need any more hot heads.

Yes to Nastasic, especially if there's an option to buy.

The agent of Milan striker Stephan El Shaarawy has denied all transfer rumours surrounding the player.

Il Faraone has been struggling to find his form since returning from an injury-troubled previous season, prompting speculation that he may leave the Rossoneri either in January or in the summer.

However his brother and agent Manuel El Shaarawy has looked to deny all rumours categorically.

“The mercato rumours are not true,” said the agent to Calcionews24.com.

“Stephan's Rossonero future has never been in question. And I have not been contacted by any other club.

“Stephan's mood is good, he just lacks in scoring a bit. His performances have always been positive. He's concentrated on doing well and finding continuity.”

The agent also spent a few words on the 22-year-old’s feelings about new Italy Coach Antonio Conte.

“He is very happy about Conte's new role on the bench of the national team.

“They spoke and had a face to face. Stephan is a great admirer of Conte, he is enthusiastic.

“He has been utilised as second striker too – he is always available.”

source: footballitalia

Best way to create interest in the player is by saying he's not going anywhere. There is interest, we know there is, his agent knows there is, but by denying it it only adds to speculation.

After all, it would be a slightly poor comment for an agent to say 'we've had offers' because Milan will not look kindly on that.

Play it kosher with the club and wait for a concrete offer or two to come in, then go public (well, Milan will, not the agent) and create a bidding war.

No point going public now.

Like it happened with Kaka, Sheva, or pretty much every one that was decent and left

Inzaghi said today that El Shaarawy will never leave Milan as long as he's in charge of the team. Let's see how true that turns out to be.

I personally can't see him leaving atm. He's obviously in a slump and that effects his price, at this point we'd lose money off of what we initially paid for him. So personally I don't think Galliani wants to sell him right now, maybe if his form picks up again and he starts scoring, that's when he'll jump on any decent offers that come our way

London Evening Standard.

He might be good enough for QPR and... yeah, that's about it.

To give him his dues he WAS good here, just lacked team play. I said at the time he has the tools to be world class, and I stand by that, but his attitude could be his undoing as it has been Balo's.

Taarabt is a hot head in the same mold as Balo. I don't want him back.

No, Balo thinks football is all about him and puts in effort on the pitch when he can be bothered, and when he can be bothered plays reasonably well but not any better than most other decent strikers.

Taarabt, on the other hand, seems to lack off-field professionalism and an attitude of certain things being beneath him, but on the pitch he never gives less than a 100% even if his lack of willingness to use vision at times is poor. Needs to pass more.

He's a better raw talent than Menez, as he's younger and has more potential, and his skill on the ball is absolutely fantastic, but he doesn't have the same level of end-product as Menez, which is something age and maturity has given the latter, even if his lack of an X button is a problem of selfishness.

When Taarabt was at Milan we saw zero sign of any disharmony from him nor any issues, so even if he has had hot-head association in his career, we saw none of it when he was here. Whereas Balo did it constantly.

Who are you talking about? SES or Taraabt?

Well, to be completely fair to him, he always behaved in the months he was with us

Taarabt...

Well he never really displayed any of that behaviour here and I was sort of impressed by his displays.

Although the fact that he was trying to score a permanent deal is probably a major factor as to why he managed to keep himself in check. If we sign him permanently we could start seeing the less appealing side of Taarabt pretty fast

A genuine concern, and one I share, but if he's willing to take a big wage cut it may be a gamble worth taking.

I am happy to hear that we are hanging on to SES. Despite his lack of form in the recent months, he is still only 22 and has the potential to be a great player. I think between Inzaghi and Conte with the national team, they will be able to find a position where he can excel. I believe that Balo's arrival here stunted SES. He took the reigns of the team at a time when we had just lost Ibra, and then we brought Balo who filled the same Ibra mold.

I wouldn't mind Taarabt, but not for more than 5m and ideally on a loan + option. If he doesn't play well we are stuck with another dud we won't be able to get rid of.

I'm not so sure about Pippo being able to do that, he clearly sees him as a winger, when imo, he clearly isn't one.

Sure he's fast, but he's not a good dribbler, and you need that if you're being played in the inverted winger position Pippo has him playing in.

For me he's a striker, I'd rather see him in a front duo next to Menez with Honda or Bonaventura in behind them, it just makes more sense than the ridiculous flat 4-3-3 we usually play when we don't have any real wingers aside from Menez who's never even played on the wings anyway

Does he now? I see no potential whatsoever. Pato when we signed him, now he had potential. SES is just an overrated player, nothing else.

Overrated? Sure. Totally agree on that

The level of bad that you, Danny and kurt make him out to be? No.

If we sell him now it will be our loss because I'm 100% sure he'd do well in a properly functioning team that is well coached.

Would he? You say Allegri can't coach and that's the only time he was good. So his performances don't really have anything to coaching.

It's easy to see that he doesn't have much to his game. He's fairly quick, but doesn't exactly have elite speed that's usually needed to make up for his lack of size. The technical side of his game is very poor, that's generally something you learn at a young age and won't change now. His finishing is very mediocre.

He's had 3 different coaches during his time at Milan, it's the same thing we're seeing with DS as he hasn't really been in good form since his first season.

As for Allegri, let's not start again with him, you say he's good, I say he's probably one of the worst coaches I've seen in my time as a Milan fan having endured him for 3 and a half years.

I do credit Allegri though with Abate's development as a FB, with introducing DS into the team and giving him an opportunity on that left side and with SES as well who shined for us in probably one of our most dire moments in the past decade

As for SES in general, I think that under the right guidance with a coach who can really utilise his abilities, he'd flourish, especially if he's put into a properly functioning team. If you'd say put him in a Roma or Dortmund I think he'd do great things

You know an SES fan is getting desperate by saying he's suffering as badly as MDS.

It wasn't about Allegri and I was looking at it from your point of view. SES has been crap 75% of the time. The only time he was good was under Allegri. Allegri (in your POV) is a crap coach, so clearly him performing well was nothing to do with his coaching, as he has only had bad coaches.

If you don't have technical ability, you need physical traits. SES has little of either.

Juve looking to sign Falcao in January. Not Milan news but we've been linked with him a lot over the past 6 months. Unfortunately he's a pale imitation of the Porto and Atleti Falcao he once was. Shame, could have been an all-time great if not for that ACL.

It's obviously different with a striker and a defender because with strikers it's something more tangible that can be grasped in terms of performances, he's scoring = doing well, not scoring = sh!t. With a defender it's far more subjective

DS hasn't been in any sort of decent form for a long while now, how you (of all people) can now try to deny that fact is beyond me since you have been very critical of DS.

We've been talking about his positioning for months now (and I'm totally with you on that), how it's because he was being played on the right and now that he's on the left he's still been massively off colour this season

As for being a fan of SES, I'm not really a huge fan, I think he's talented, but what mostly fuels my defence of him here is the bashing he gets for no good reason aside from struggling for form after an entire season out. You know, with Balo I didn't agree with you guys but I understood where you were coming from, he was not producing what was expected and the extra baggage he brings along with him is just too much hassle to deal with if he's not producing on the pitch.

But I just don't get the very obvious ire some of you guys have towards SES. Even if he's not producing right now, he's always behaved as a model professional, always puts in 110% on the pitch and even when not scoring still puts in a major shift in for the team, I've never personally read anything about his personal life or how he leads it that would make me believe he's wasting away his opportunity partying, etc. And I guess that is why I personally make it a point to defend him.

Listen, if he's sold as soon as the window opens I'm not going to cry my eyes out over it (I'd personally be interested to see how he does for another team), he's not someone I hang all my hopes and dreams for the future of Milan over, I think he has potential, which is why I'm willing to wait him out a bit longer and see how he develops


Like I said above, I may not give Allegri much credit but I do credit him for giving certain players chances to really bloom, Abate being one of them, he found himself as a RB under Allegri, same with DS. And same thing with SES.

That being said, his time under Allegri as coach was mostly spent in turmoil, with the coach constantly under pressure and the team sinking to new lows each week. It's not exactly a great environment to really grow as a player, then he had last season which was completely injury riddled. I really don't understand what you guys are expecting from SES at this current point

I know players like Messi have given people insurmountable expectations of what players of SES' age should be capable of but that's really not the reality, what was Ronaldo doing at 22? What was Ibra doing at 22?

As for his characteristics, imo, he is very fast and he is a good finisher. Imo, he's a striker not a winger, which is what's holding him back most now.


I don't think any Italian team has any hope in hell of being able to finance Falcao

Yes, because for one full season MDS had been really poor. He's finally come out of that slump in his last few appearances before injury.

But one full season where the whole team was really terrible isn't quite the same as the 4 years SES hasn't produced, 4 months aside.



Actually if you remember that heatmap I showed you, most the goals he scored during his peak period were from the left. It's where he's mostly played at Milan.



And that is your right, but it is equally our right to castigate him for being astonishingly bad.



48 months is long enough. I'm done with him.