Fillipo Simone
Oct 10 2010, 02:00 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 10 2010, 02:28 PM)

Well, sure there are. That's why I said 'most' people and not 'all' people. But do you really care whether they play on Friday or Saturday?
Well, I'd say in Croatia most of the people care for such matches, and a smaller groups doesn't. It depends.
I don't care when Croatia plays against Andorra, but if England or any other big country comes, I do care - you see - Friday is working day and I got to stay mostly late with editorial stuff. Saturday I'm free.
CHU-LIP
Oct 10 2010, 02:26 PM
I am kinda looking forward to Sweden and The Netherlands. Since forever The Netherlands are having finally a tough pill in their group.
samira
Oct 10 2010, 04:44 PM
So do I and all that Zlatan and Van der Vaart drama..
But sometime the good thing with NT , is to see how the players work with other players then Rossoneri players and Huntelaar has scored more now then the WC, maybe more playtime but I enjoy to see how he's doing..
Buffon likes Prandelli's Italy at least
kurtsimonw
Oct 10 2010, 06:02 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 10 2010, 12:29 PM)

I don't give a crap about the NT break, and most people don't. Whether it's played on midweek or weekend is of minor importance. I can't wait till it's over so we can get back to some real football.
Meh, I support my country as much as I support my club.
I just think Friday/Tuesday is crap because unless you live in the City where your NT stadium is, you can't go to the game unless you take the day off work. Stupid from UEFA, but like they give a **** about fans?
han2503
Oct 10 2010, 07:03 PM
Imo the qualifiers are formalities. They put in the top teams in the weakest groups possible (due to seeding) How many times can we watch the San Marinos, Faroe Isleands, etc get hammered? Meh sure there are the rare occasions of two top teams getting into the same group but that's rare.
Zed.D
Oct 11 2010, 10:41 PM
I know it's
just another friendly, but here's Pato's tonight goal against Ukraine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh6JeBU0m6IThe more interesting bit is his goal scoring record under Dunga and Menezes. 1 in 8 and 3 in 3 respectively.
I hope Dunga is suffering somewhere!
X-Offender
Oct 11 2010, 10:57 PM
Cool, the baby just keeps scoring. Nice goal too.
X-Offender
Oct 11 2010, 10:59 PM
Here's another clip, which shows him hitting the bar as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwivOW8Z5ck
Zed.D
Oct 11 2010, 11:35 PM
Wow, that was a great move. pity it hit the bar.
Thanks for the link.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 12 2010, 12:42 AM
Dunga...don't remind me of that guy. He crushed Brazil's tradition, he left Pato out with no reason and robbed Kaka maybe the last chance of winning a WC as a regular NT player, not that kid in 2002.
acid911
Oct 12 2010, 12:43 AM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 12 2010, 02:41 AM)

I hope Dunga is suffering somewhere!
Amen to that bro.

Amen to that. I hope he never shows his face to the public again! Not just Pato, he basically took a soulless Brazilian team - the likes of Fabiano, Melo and more should consider themselves the luckiest SOBs of all time to get in the starting XI. In the presence of real talent (which was left back home), they'd not even have made the substitute bench.
And no, I'm not just talking about Ronaldinho - he deserved at least a place in the 23, if not match action!
Fillipo Simone
Oct 12 2010, 12:47 AM
So, Locke are you looking forward for the Norway-Croatia clash today?
elcordobez
Oct 12 2010, 03:23 AM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 12 2010, 08:41 AM)

I know it's
just another friendly, but here's Pato's tonight goal against Ukraine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh6JeBU0m6IThe more interesting bit is his goal scoring record under Dunga and Menezes. 1 in 8 and 3 in 3 respectively.
I hope Dunga is suffering somewhere!
Nice
Brazil nursing him back to match fitness for us
kurtsimonw
Oct 12 2010, 05:34 AM
Looking forward to tonights game.
Montenegro have surprised me at how well they've done, won every game 1-0 so far. Our group is quite poor, but Montenegro are a very new (and small) nation so they're doing well for themselves. Win tonight, then do the Welsh home and away and we should be through.
X-Offender
Oct 12 2010, 01:47 PM
QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 12 2010, 01:43 AM)

And no, I'm not just talking about Ronaldinho - he deserved at least a place in the 23, if not match action!
There were other players that deserved a NT spot more than Ronaldinho. Pato, Neymar and Ganso, just to name some.
ForzaMaldini
Oct 12 2010, 01:48 PM
Good luck tpday samira, you'll need it
X-Offender
Oct 12 2010, 01:55 PM
It looks like Menezes will be following Milan-Chievo and Real Madrid-Milan to look up closely, among others, Ronaldinho. I really don't care whether he calls him in the NT or not, I just hope this pumps Dinho up to play a decent game.
Link
Fillipo Simone
Oct 12 2010, 02:25 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 12 2010, 06:34 AM)

Looking forward to tonights game.
Montenegro have surprised me at how well they've done, won every game 1-0 so far. Our group is quite poor, but Montenegro are a very new (and small) nation so they're doing well for themselves. Win tonight, then do the Welsh home and away and we should be through.
As I said, I don't share any concern about todays victor. Montenegro is overconfident; even more then Croatia when England crushed us 4-1.
CrazyMilanFan
Oct 12 2010, 02:48 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 12 2010, 01:47 PM)

There were other players that deserved a NT spot more than Ronaldinho. Pato, Neymar and Ganso, just to name some.
ronaldinho had a better season than pato imo but then dunga caleed baptista
X-Offender
Oct 12 2010, 03:44 PM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Oct 12 2010, 03:48 PM)

ronaldinho had a better season than pato imo but then dunga caleed baptista

Who's not even a starter at Roma.

And don't let me get started on Grafite. Yup, some of his choices were really poor.
han2503
Oct 12 2010, 07:21 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 12 2010, 02:44 PM)

Who's not even a starter at Roma.

And don't let me get started on Grafite. Yup, some of his choices were really poor.
I think they were more biased rather then poor. I don't think he intended to give Ronaldinho or Pato the chance, no matter how well they played for us.
samira
Oct 12 2010, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (ForzaMaldini @ Oct 12 2010, 12:48 PM)

Good luck tpday samira, you'll need it

Thanks

Allready on the third minute, that damn Huntelaar scored, 1-0 to Netherland
William405
Oct 12 2010, 07:42 PM
Dam how did we let hunt go!We should have found a way to fit him into our system.
gooo zlatan!!
kurtsimonw
Oct 12 2010, 07:52 PM
Faroe Islands 1-1 Northern Ireland.

England team
Joe Hart
Glenn Johnson
Rio Ferdinand
Joleon Lescott
Ashley Cole
Adam Johnson
Steven Gerrard
Gareth Barry
Ashley Young
Peter Crouch
Wayne Rooney
Lescott aside, well done Fabio.
Vucinic out for the away side.
samira
Oct 12 2010, 07:57 PM
NOOOOOO ! Toivonen made me celebrate too early
Zed.D
Oct 12 2010, 08:03 PM
QUOTE
U-21: Azzurrini battered in BelarusItaly are out of the European Under-21 Championships after a shock 3-0 defeat to Belrus in extra time, including Vito Mannone's howler.
More QUOTE
FIGC 'couldn't imagine' U-21 exitFIGC President Giancarlo Abete admits he “could not even imagine a result like this” after Italy crashed out of Euro 2011 and the 2012 Olympics.
More Is this the future of Azzurri?! wow...
Something is very wrong with the Italian football.
William405
Oct 12 2010, 08:04 PM
What a disgrace,at genoa.Bunch of serbian ******* may have postponed the game for more than half hour.If someone is watching whats happening,he'll know what I mean.Disgrace,what I can say/
ForzaMaldini
Oct 12 2010, 08:08 PM
Affelayy!!!!
kurtsimonw
Oct 12 2010, 08:09 PM
Doesn't Mannone play for Arsenal? They have no luck with keepers if he does!
Zed.D
Oct 12 2010, 08:12 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 12 2010, 11:39 PM)

Doesn't Mannone play for Arsenal? They have no luck with keepers if he does!
Yeah he does. they will probably blame it all on him, but I think if they can't hold on to a 2 goal lead against "Belarus", then the tournament's better off without them.
I'm really shocked and sad about this!
William405
Oct 12 2010, 08:13 PM
No one watching italy,serbia are breaking Genoa's stadium.
http://www.football-italia.net/oct12y.html
Milan Are Brilliant
Oct 12 2010, 08:20 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 12 2010, 07:52 PM)

Adam Johnson
I don't usually do the hype of England players but this guy really impresses me. I remember seeing him at Middlesbrough and thinking he was a good player didn't realise he would get to this level though.
But he has something about him, I think he could be a really, really good/world class footballer in a few years, perhaps our biggest youth breakthrough since Rooney, at least if Man City don't ruin him. Though he does need to keep improving at a fast rate, he is already 23.
Zed.D
Oct 12 2010, 08:20 PM

Why ultras are still allowed in the stadiums is beyond me. ****ers.
Tennie
Oct 12 2010, 08:21 PM
And people wonder why I have difficulty cheering for the serbian NT or any of its players.
William405
Oct 12 2010, 08:22 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 12 2010, 10:20 PM)


Why ultras are still allowed in the stadiums is beyond me. ****ers.
Exactly!The match will start now,hope Italy beat their asses like 5-0.They seem to be fired up...Pirlo's expression didn't change though

Tennie:The serbian NT clapped for their crowd after what they did,I mean that's ****** up.I agree with you.
Zambro captain,awesome.
kurtsimonw
Oct 12 2010, 08:30 PM
QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Oct 12 2010, 08:20 PM)

I don't usually do the hype of England players but this guy really impresses me. I remember seeing him at Middlesbrough and thinking he was a good player didn't realise he would get to this level though.
But he has something about him, I think he could be a really, really good/world class footballer in a few years, perhaps our biggest youth breakthrough since Rooney, at least if Man City don't ruin him. Though he does need to keep improving at a fast rate, he is already 23.
Johnson is a good player, I think he'll be fine in a 4-5-1/4-3-3/4-2-3-1, problem with him in a 4-4-2 is that he's not very responsible defensively. Great at going at his full back though. Hoping Ash performs well tonight, about time he got a start for England.
samira
Oct 12 2010, 08:32 PM
Suprising that Serbia lost aganst Estonia..
Sweden.. Come on Ibra!!
Tennie
Oct 12 2010, 08:34 PM
Travelling NT support is a little different than travelling club support. Still, though. What those...individuals...did to the stadium and the way they disrupted things....not cool. And I'm not in the least surprised to see this particular NT involved.
Milan Are Brilliant
Oct 12 2010, 08:35 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 12 2010, 08:30 PM)

Johnson is a good player, I think he'll be fine in a 4-5-1/4-3-3/4-2-3-1, problem with him in a 4-4-2 is that he's not very responsible defensively. Great at going at his full back though. Hoping Ash performs well tonight, about time he got a start for England.
I thought he was alright when we played Switzerland at tracking back.
I think he's gaining an attitude problem the more plaudits he gets though, whereas Hart still carries himself well - at least for a footballer.
Yeah, I like Young in a Villa shirt but for England he hasn't really done it on the occasions he has been given, be interesting to see tonight.
Zed.D
Oct 12 2010, 08:36 PM
QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 12 2010, 10:52 PM)

Tennie:The serbian NT clapped for their crowd after what they did,I mean that's fucked up.I agree with you.

Are you sure?? cause I read their keeper had been injured by a flare their ultras had thrown at the team bus.
Tennie
Oct 12 2010, 08:37 PM
Eurosport italia is reporting that Stojkovic (who's usually the starting keeper for Serbia) refused to play because the Serbian ultras had threatened his life after the Estonia game.
William405
Oct 12 2010, 08:40 PM
Those people should be put to jail.**** them,I was planning to watch football today.
Italy may have won the match. 3-0
Tennie
Oct 12 2010, 08:42 PM
They're right to call the game though. It's too dangerous to the players and to other fans to risk continuing.
Serbia should forfeit though.
X-Offender
Oct 12 2010, 08:44 PM
What I've been watching in the past half an hour is an absolute disgrace. Match is being postponed again, probably will be suspended.
Locke Lamora
Oct 12 2010, 08:45 PM
The same thing happened when Bosnia came to play in Oslo, fans throwing flares and smoke bombs for no reason at all onto the pitch and disrupting the match.
Tennie
Oct 12 2010, 08:45 PM
Hopefully no innocent people will be hurt when they try to clear the stadium.
samira
Oct 12 2010, 08:47 PM
I probably should be a shame to say this, but Why in h3ll did we let go Huntelaar and bought Zlatan..
3-0 and a wonderful goal too.
Oh I was just kidding, It's 4-0..
kurtsimonw
Oct 12 2010, 08:47 PM
England aren't going to win this. Everytime we get in their half we're just getting kicked to peices.
X-Offender
Oct 12 2010, 08:48 PM
Game suspended. I hope UEFA makes their voice heard and punishes those Serbian terrorists for good.
X-Offender
Oct 12 2010, 08:49 PM
QUOTE (samira @ Oct 12 2010, 09:47 PM)

I probably should be a shame to say this, but Why in h3ll did we let go Huntelaar and bought Zlatan..
3-0 and a wonderful goal too.
Is that supposed to be funny?
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