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Zed.D
This was IMO Pippo's best goal this season. the way he controlled the ball was something I honestly didn't expect him to be capable of at this age.






Jack Sparrow
Zee and Pippo look like lovers... tongue.gif
kurtsimonw
Zee!?
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 29 2008, 04:02 PM) *
Zee!?

Seedorf. sleep.gif
acid911
I still can't believe my 4000th post was for Seedorf. dry.gif Sheesh!
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 29 2008, 11:38 AM) *
Seedorf. sleep.gif
Where on earth did the name 'Zee' come from? Jack, you've some explainin to do!
Fillipo Simone
Btw. how is Seedorf really spelled?? Is it Se-dorf or Si-dorf or Zi-dorf?
Zed.D
Sea-door-f ?! biggrin.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 29 2008, 07:03 PM) *
Sea-door-f ?! biggrin.gif

Are you sure? Some dutch guys told me once it's Si-dorf..
Zed.D
Of course I'm not wink.gif I call him Sea-dorf.

The English commentators call him Say-dorf. rolleyes.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 29 2008, 06:22 PM) *
Of course I'm not wink.gif I call him Sea-dorf.

Me too.
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 29 2008, 04:41 PM) *
Where on earth did the name 'Zee' come from? Jack, you've some explainin to do!

Zee TV is the largest television network in India. Jack's Indian. smile.gif You join the dots, Kurt.
Tennie
Never thought I'd see a pro-Pippo column on Eurosport's English page, but, well, I did. Here it is:

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Early Doors has a few guilty secrets. Many of them involve midgets, armed coups in central African nations and enormous quantities of cheese.

But perhaps the most shameful of all is this - ED loves Filippo Inzaghi.

Now 35, Inzaghi is the kind of out-and-out striker that seems to be dying out of the modern game.

He is the opposite of Emile Heskey. He isn't a team player, he doesn't track back, he doesn't hold the ball up and he certainly doesn't put in the hard yards. All he does is score stacks of important goals.

And last night he stuck it to Portsmouth with a sensational stoppage-time effort that scraped a 2-2 draw for Milan.

ED has done a lot of research on Superpippo and has discovered the following:

He spends 31 per cent of his time gesticulating, 24 per cent getting caught offside, 19 per cent rolling on the deck brandishing imaginary yellow cards, 14 per cent clasping his hands together and making a face like a toddler who has just dropped his ice cream on the floor, and the remaining 12 per cent of his time on the pitch is spent scoring goals.

Early Doors spent years despising Inzaghi. It hated the playacting, the whining and the constant irritation of seeing him deliver at crunch time.

It joined in the sniping, nodding sagely when Jaap Stam called him and his brother Simone "diving cheats" and chuckling when Sir Alex Ferguson said: "Filippo Inzaghi was born in an offside position."

Then something strange happened. As Inzaghi continued to defy his critics, scoring goals in the face of constant criticism and derision, Early Doors's hatred turned to grudging respect, then admiration, then full, unsettlingly profound love.

Admittedly, Early Doors has a thing for anti-heroes - Inzaghi joins George W. Bush, William Gallas and Craig Revel-Horwood on ED's list of lovable rogues.

No wonder he feels as though the world is against him - he has scored over 250 goals in his club career and 25 for his country, yet every compliment of him is backhanded.

This zinger from Johan Cruyff summed it up perfectly: "He can't play football at all. He's just always in the right position."

Only six players have scored more in the Champions League: Andriy Shevchenko, Raul, Alfredo Di Stefano, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Thierry Henry and Eusebio.

So you can shut your face when Early Doors calls him one of the greatest strikers of all time.

Last night's goal was his 68th in European competition, and was classic Inzaghi.

It was timed to inflict maximum misery on the opposition - an equaliser in the 92nd minute of a game Milan had deservedly trailed 2-0.

There was a whiff of controversy about it, with Inzaghi taking up his customary position nanometres from straying offside.

His first touch was a sublime piece of control; his second was a lucky bobble off his shin; and his third was a little slice of predatory genius, prodding the ball into the bottom-left corner.

He has been doing it since Peter Crouch was in short(er) trousers, and Portsmouth should have known not to give him a yard of space in their box.

Inzaghi celebrated in customary fashion, breaching a lacklustre cordon of stewards to get stuck in with the away support. He went back for more after the game, chucking various items of clothing to his adoring fans.

And that, it seems, is what makes him so good. This was, for Milan, the fabled cold Tuesday night at Rochdale.

An away trip in the UEFA Cup - a competition Milan are mortified to be in - to play a game that was not even shown on Italian TV. Yet Inzaghi celebrated his equaliser like it was the World Cup final.

No less a sage than Silvio Berlusconi, fresh from praising Barack Obama's tan, actually hit the nail on the head in his appraisal of Inzaghi: "Perhaps his touch on the ball isn't very good, but he lives for the goal."

While he appears to embody all the precious, whingeing, cheating values we hate in the modern game, Filippo Inzaghi is a purist's dream. He doesn't care about image, wealth or WAGs. All he cares about is scoring goals.
acid911
Excellent, excellent read, Ten. thumbup.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 29 2008, 06:58 PM) *
Btw. how is Seedorf really spelled?? Is it Se-dorf or Si-dorf or Zi-dorf?

Well the English pronounce it Say-dorf
The Italians Se-dorf
But I think the correct on would be Sea-dorf
acid911
I, too, call him Sea-dorf. unsure.gif Though some local chaps I know here call him see-do-rough. I think it's got something to do with the knowledge of English language (or lack thereof).
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 04:15 PM) *
The Italians Se-dorf
But I think the correct on would be Sea-dorf


Yes, and i got used to it that way biggrin.gif
TriniKing_CE
Nice atricle posted Tennie..., thanx for it!
It pretty much does sum up Pippo...love him or hate him he gets things done!
Long Live Pippo!

[except today cuz I am pissed after that game against Palermo (not with him but the majority of the team ) dry.gif ]
amancik
biggrin.gif Good Read, Tennie
Tennie
Here's a rather nice interview with Pippo from acmilan.com's english page:

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MILANELLO - Superpippo speaks. On his return from Bremen, in the fireplace room of Milanello, Inzaghi dropped some of the German adrenaline (he scored his 9th goal against a German team with the Milan shirt in European Cups, and the 12th one including his three goals against Hamburger HV with Juventus) and talked about himself and the team: "66 goals in Europe? Yes, it's important but what counted the most was doing well for Milan. It was a long time that I hadn't played from the start and I had prepared well for this, because when you don't play frequently you have to prepare carefully, in a special way. Still last night by the 65th minute I had cramps, but I am happy because I played a good match and I also scored. The goalscoring record in Europe? It will be remembered when I will quit playing, now I enjoy it, especially as an Italian: being there with many champions from other countries, and competing in this classification is very important. Certainly, without the team mates I had in all these years at Milan I wouldn't be here talking about these things. I like to share these joys with them and I am happy I can still experience these important European nights which are full of satisfactions."

"With Milan - Filippo Inzaghi continued to Milan Channel - I reached 105 goals in official games with the Rossoneri shirt. A nice number, but now let's try to go forward, the only disappointment is that I wasn't able to celebrate the 100th goal the right way because it was the match against Udinese last May which, although we won it, did not allow us to qualify for the Champions League, but for me the basis of everything is doing well now, I don't have any pains, I try to give a hand when I can and let's see what happens in the next few games. The derby? I was very disappointed to lose the derby but it happens. Sunday night I was happy because I was doing well and that's the most important thing, then it's clear that the great goal I scored in the second half would have been the cherry on the cake but it was offside, then there was that penalty which unfortunately the referee didn't see, while at the end Julio Cesar made a great save, a save only him and a few other goalkeepers in the world are able to make. In the league we now have to think about finishing in the first three for the qualification to the next Champions League, then we'll see what happens, now let's think about winning on Sunday against Cagliari, a very tough side who are doing very well. The goals conceded? We know very well that we conceded two identical goals between the match with Inter and last night: we have to improve on this aspect. Now let's roll up our sleeves because we have to think about winning on Sunday and then next Thursday to get through in the Uefa Cup."
Fillipo Simone
Pippo's always THE man... devilsmiley.gif

Thanks for posting it Tennie...
kurtsimonw
Thanks Tennie.

It's quite sad that Pippo, the man who won us our most recent European Cup amongst other things, only has 19 pages. Yet Pato, who's only been here 18 onths and done little of note, has over 100!
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 20 2009, 06:17 PM) *
Thanks Tennie.

It's quite sad that Pippo, the man who won us our most European Cup amongst other things, only has 19 pages. Yet Pato, who's only been here 18 onths and done little of note, has over 100!

Hmh,...you got me thinking...

I agree, it's kind of sad.
acid911
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 20 2009, 10:19 PM) *
Hmh,...you got me thinking...
I agree, it's kind of sad.

Let's not get into these comparisons, shall we? huh.gif Paolo Maldini could have 1 page, and he'll still trump any and every hundred page thread. Same was the case with Ronaldo, as is the case with Dida. It's the small moments that make these players what they are. Beside, intentional or not, we always find ways to segregate and separate our players, from Brazilians to divers, to what not. No offense intended, of course. These things can always wait until they leave the club.

But as long as they play for Milan, wear the red and black, they're a part of the club. No classification needed.
Fillipo Simone
Don't get your point completely. Just wanted to say that I agree with Kurt how funny it is that a Inzaghi-thread is half as "hot" as a Pato thread, when the first spent more then just a few years more then Pato here. No segregation, no classification. Pure facts..
Tennie
Segregation is an emotionally charged word, at least in this country. It sends up as many red flags as calling someone 'racist' does.

I agree with Kurt and Fillipo that it's a bit surprising to see whose threads have lots and lots of pages and whose do not.
Zed.D
Wow, I'm sick of the way Pato's name is brought up in a rather negative way every now and then...
Tennie
Welcome to my world, zeddie. It's done to pretty much every other player on the team on a very regular basis. Pato is hardly being singled out.

Anyway, this is the Pippo thread. Let's talk about him, shall we?
Zed.D
QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 20 2009, 10:50 PM) *
Welcome to my world, zeddie. It's done to pretty much every other player on the team on a very regular basis. Pato is hardly being singled out.

Anyway, this is the Pippo thread. Let's talk about him, shall we?


It's never been like this, Tennie. if a player was criticized, it was only based on what he did on the pitch [if you think I'm wrong, I'll be happy if you show me some examples]. but to say it's sad the Pato thread has more pages than the Pippo thread... gee!!
acid911
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 20 2009, 11:59 PM) *
Don't get your point completely. Just wanted to say that I agree with Kurt how funny it is that a Inzaghi-thread is half as "hot" as a Pato thread, when the first spent more then just a few years more then Pato here. No segregation, no classification. Pure facts..

I'll agree with the facts too, but my point actually was more in line of there are big players who don't have as much thread activity as some new ones that have tons of it. That doesn't make them a different/better/worse player than any other Milan players. Simple. Even Paolo and Nesta threads don't have that much activity and they've been here for ages. smile.gif Doesn't make them inferior to Pato (or anybody else) in any way, shape, or form. Same goes for Inzaghi. And for every other Milan player. A big part of Pato's thread is all the transfer blah blah before he signed up.

And just for the record I agree with Kurt too, but maybe it's just me, I just won't worry about such things. I mean, Dida is a wold cup winner and two times CL winner too, by this count his thread has pin-drop silence. laugh.gif What matters is all these player giving their full where it matters. And we as fans should be worried more about that too, rather than competing which player gets more activity or which thread is hot. There are some players who are in the media spotlight comparatively more than others, and this too reflects in a forum sometimes. At the end of the day, all that matters is them being a part of Milan, all being equally important regardless of such small details.

As far as Pippo goes, nothing will change the reality of all the vital goals he scored for the club. This is a FACT.
Tennie
I do think it's sad that there are more pages discussing a 19 year old than the guy who scored both goals in our most recent CL final, yes.

As for Pippo, I'll offer an observation so this post isn't completely off topic.

When he was at Juventus, I couldn't stand him. Not sure how many remember that far back, but the Del Piero-Inzaghi-Zidane trident was pretty effing fearsome. Pippo could score against Milan at will. Needless to say, I've since come to have great affection for him (and I really like the goofy face he makes when he scores).

Funny thing is, the Juve fans I know now despise Pippo because...he scores against them for fun. smile.gif

So it's all a matter of perspective.
acid911
Let's leave it, guys. Not worth debating this, or fighting over. innocent.gif Dida has 32 replies, while Kalac has 80. Ambrosini our second longest player has 61, with Gattuso at four times 247. At the same time Kaka has 1,150. If we started measuring players and their effectiveness with the amount of hotness or activity they get in an Internet forum, then God have mercy on us.
kurtsimonw
Oh dear, what have I done!?

I didn't mean it in a negative way to Pato, it's just surprising to me that somebody has given some of his best years to the club and done great things here yet doesn't seem to be as talked about as a guy who's played for the club for a year. Nothing against Pato at all, it's not like it's his fault people talk about him alot.

I'm sure it's the same everywhere. I bet the Ibrahimovic thread is bigger than Zanetti's, Ronaldo's than Giggs', etc.
Fillipo Simone
This discussion is utterly sad as well. My god, I'll sure burn in hell for mentioning Pato's name.

I'd appeal we stop here and from now on try read what people actually say and not misquote them.
acid911
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 21 2009, 12:45 AM) *
I'd appeal we stop here and from now on try read what people actually say and not misquote them.

Good. king.gif I second it. And no, it was not about Pato versus anybody. Like Kurt said it's probably the same everywhere. My humble suggestion was we shouldn't be concerned with it, even though I agreed with Kurt's original comment. Because? It doesn't matter one bit.

And if it does, then by all means start posting anything you can find about a particular player in his thread. Others will (and should) join in the discussion.
dst
Never liked him, never will but I will always be thankful to what he has done for Milan.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 20 2009, 09:19 PM) *
Wow, I'm sick of the way Pato's name is brought up in a rather negative way every now and then...

Damn fanboys! You can't be serious! huh.gif biggrin.gif
Fillipo Simone
That was my intention - encourage people to post in this thread, especially because Pippo's breaking records this season. Nothing else.
Tennie
I don't need to be lectured at to discuss Pippo. smile.gif

Despite the fact that he's not well liked by a number of folks, he's a hero to me because of Athens (and before that Berlin. look back at the match thread; he wasnt even close to fit and yet played and scored).

I've got 2 signed jerseys from the current crop of players. One is Gattuso. The other is Pippo.
Zed.D
QUOTE
A big part of Pato's thread is all the transfer blah blah before he signed up.

Exactly. I think around 50 pages (didn't check. just guessing)

This discussion wasn't that useless, not for me. I got to know some people a little bit better smile.gif

--------------------------

@ the sad people

How about stop posting in that 19 year old's thread, and try a little more posting in the Pippo thread? smile.gif

QUOTE (dst @ Feb 20 2009, 11:26 PM) *
Damn fanboys! You can't be serious! huh.gif biggrin.gif


I am serious, you screwball biggrin.gif





OK, I'm done with this discussion.
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 20 2009, 09:45 PM) *
I didn't mean it in a negative way to Pato, it's just surprising to me that somebody has given some of his best years to the club and done great things here yet doesn't seem to be as talked about as a guy who's played for the club for a year. Nothing against Pato at all, it's not like it's his fault people talk about him alot.

Surprising? In what way? I don't think so... I mean, Pato is a hot subject but no one respects him more than we do Pippo.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 20 2009, 08:04 PM) *
Surprising? In what way? I don't think so... I mean, Pato is a hot subject but no one respects him more than we do Pippo.

Surprising in the sense that Pippo has been at the club longer, done more for the club, therefore giving us more talking points..

But again, this isn't anything to do with Pato. It just so happened I was reading his thread before I went into Inzaghi's and noticed the difference. I could have said Ronaldinho or Beckham or whoever else, it was just by chance that Pato was the comparison, no other reason.
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 20 2009, 10:09 PM) *
But again, this isn't anything to do with Pato. It just so happened I was reading his thread before I went into Inzaghi's and noticed the difference. I could have said Ronaldinho or Beckham or whoever else, it was just by chance that Pato was the comparison, no other reason.

Yeah... Zed.D still think we all hate him... rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 21 2009, 12:39 AM) *
Surprising in the sense that Pippo has been at the club long, done more for the club, therefore giving us more talking points..


I'm back in the discussion!

I don't think the number of a certain player thread's pages has anything to do with the amount of the the time that player's been here. Milan fan hasn't been around since 2001, has it?

Talking points? again, I doubt there is much to say/remember about what Pippo did in the 2003/04 season, for example. people tend to forget things as time passes by. just because a certain player's been here for nearly a decade doesn't mean there are more subjects about him to discuss than a newcomer. just my opinion.

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 21 2009, 12:39 AM) *
But again, this isn't anything to do with Pato. It just so happened I was reading his thread before I went into Inzaghi's and noticed the difference. I could have said Ronaldinho or Beckham or whoever else, it was just by chance that Pato was the comparison, no other reason.


Ignore dst! I understand what you mean.
Fillipo Simone
Let's all sing "I feel pretty", shall we?
Locke Lamora
So this is what happens when I leave the forum for a few days, eh?
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 20 2009, 08:14 PM) *
Yeah... Zed.D still think we all hate him... rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif

You're such a wind-up..

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 20 2009, 08:17 PM) *
I'm back in the discussion!

I don't think the number of a certain player thread's pages has anything to do with the amount of the the time that player's been here. Milan fan hasn't been around since 2001, has it?

Talking points? again, I doubt there is much to say/remember about what Pippo did in the 2003/04 season, for example. people tend to forget things as time passes by. just because a certain player's been here for nearly a decade doesn't mean there are more subjects about him to discuss than a newcomer. just my opinion.

Valid points and I somewhat agree.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 20 2009, 08:17 PM) *
Ignore dst! I understand what you mean.

I always do my best to ignore him, don't you worry about that. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 20 2009, 08:23 PM) *
Let's all sing "I feel pretty", shall we?

laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Feb 20 2009, 08:35 PM) *
So this is what happens when I leave the forum for a few days, eh?

I dunno where we'd be without you. I'd probably be stuck all lonely in the EPL thread on my own. tongue.gif
Tennie
Yeah, Locke. We think we can actually talk about (and say positive things about) someone other than Pato. biggrin.gif
acid911
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Feb 21 2009, 01:35 AM) *
So this is what happens when I leave the forum for a few days, eh?

Totally! laugh.gif I see you're back early, though!
Locke Lamora
QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 20 2009, 09:49 PM) *
Totally! laugh.gif I see you're back early, though!


Back early? Were you excpecting me to be away for a longer period? ohmy.gif
Tennie
(Fishdoll was sure you'd run off with a flamenco dancer named Lola, Locke.)
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