QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 28 2007, 01:33 AM)
Can anybody say Arsenal?
Top proven striker, very young team. Doomed to fail.
Top proven striker, very young team. Doomed to fail.
Comparing Arsenal to Madrid?
Water and wine... like Lazio to Milan.
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Comparing Arsenal to Madrid?
Water and wine... like Lazio to Milan.
I don't think it matters who they sign.
Without Beckham they wouldn't have come close to winning the league, he made about 6 assists in the last 3 games.
People always think Madrid need an attacking coach to match their attacking payers, that's a big mistake. You need a defensive coach, you're attacking players are going to do what's naturel to them anyways and go forward. At least with a defensive coach you're going to set up and equipped better to defend.
Just like it worked with Capello both times, it's no coincidence.
Without Beckham they wouldn't have come close to winning the league, he made about 6 assists in the last 3 games.
People always think Madrid need an attacking coach to match their attacking payers, that's a big mistake. You need a defensive coach, you're attacking players are going to do what's naturel to them anyways and go forward. At least with a defensive coach you're going to set up and equipped better to defend.
Just like it worked with Capello both times, it's no coincidence.
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 03:16 AM)
They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.
And??
It won't happen again!
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 28 2007, 11:45 AM)
And??
It won't happen again!
It won't happen again!
You never know. Just look how we won this year's CL... after Calciocaos, after Shevchenko departure, without Ronaldo... when nobody expected.
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 01:54 PM)
You never know. Just look how we won this year's CL... after Calciocaos, after Shevchenko departure, without Ronaldo... when nobody expected.
It wouldn't be unexpected for Real to win the CL next season... especially if they make some good transfers this summer.
You'd really like to see the whole thing repeated... I myself hope they fail miserably!
I wonder if he annoyed the board by suggesting that Real could never get Kaka whilst under contract to Milan 
Capello axed by Real!
Real Madrid have parted company with Fabio Capello less than a fortnight after he led them to their first La Liga title in four years.
The news comes as little surprise after weeks of speculation in the Spanish Press, but it still seems a strange move by the European giants after their League success last term.
Bernd Schuster seems almost certain to replace the ex-Juve tactician after being released from his contract with Getafe yesterday.
In spite of his eventual success at the Bernabeu, Capello failed to win the hearts of the fans due to his brand of pragmatic football and he had several public spats with President Ramon Calderon.
Today’s announcement was vague as to the reason for the first dismissal of Don Fabio’s impressive career.
“The directors at Real Madrid are grateful for all that has been achieved over the past season, but have decided not to continue with Capello as Coach,†director of sport Pedja Mijatovic explained.
“We don’t think that he is the right person to continue our project.â€
Capello’s future remains unclear, but he has suggested in recent weeks that the Real Madrid job may be his last in management.
Channel4
Real Madrid have parted company with Fabio Capello less than a fortnight after he led them to their first La Liga title in four years.
The news comes as little surprise after weeks of speculation in the Spanish Press, but it still seems a strange move by the European giants after their League success last term.
Bernd Schuster seems almost certain to replace the ex-Juve tactician after being released from his contract with Getafe yesterday.
In spite of his eventual success at the Bernabeu, Capello failed to win the hearts of the fans due to his brand of pragmatic football and he had several public spats with President Ramon Calderon.
Today’s announcement was vague as to the reason for the first dismissal of Don Fabio’s impressive career.
“The directors at Real Madrid are grateful for all that has been achieved over the past season, but have decided not to continue with Capello as Coach,†director of sport Pedja Mijatovic explained.
“We don’t think that he is the right person to continue our project.â€
Capello’s future remains unclear, but he has suggested in recent weeks that the Real Madrid job may be his last in management.
Channel4
The Spanish press is reporting that Villareal has sold Riquelme & Forlan to Atletico.
Looks like El Nino will be learning Scouse.
Looks like El Nino will be learning Scouse.
Bad for him!! I can't wish him to fail cause that would annoy Max so I just wish he scores a lot... but he doesn't win anything!
Good deal for Atlético (Riquelme & Forlán)! If Agüero also develops as expected then they'll have a decent squad next season!!
Good deal for Atlético (Riquelme & Forlán)! If Agüero also develops as expected then they'll have a decent squad next season!!
Villa's summer is going even better than Milan's.
Hughes, Samuel, McCann out.
Forlan, Sneijder, Drenthe, Reo-Coker, Nugent, Barton and Babel have all either been sold or won't come. What's the point of having a billionnaire owner if no one will join you.
Great news for Athletico though. They're going to have some serious players in an attacking sense. Forlan, Aguero, Petrov, Maxi, Riquelme.
Hughes, Samuel, McCann out.
Forlan, Sneijder, Drenthe, Reo-Coker, Nugent, Barton and Babel have all either been sold or won't come. What's the point of having a billionnaire owner if no one will join you.
Great news for Athletico though. They're going to have some serious players in an attacking sense. Forlan, Aguero, Petrov, Maxi, Riquelme.
Abidal is almost a Barcelona player... could that mean Zambrotta's way out is now open?? I hope so... and I hope Milan get him if that's really the case!
Getafe say Schuster has not been released as reported earlier today...
Getafe say Schuster has not been released as reported earlier today...
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Barcelona Confirm Abidal Capture
FC Barcelona have announced that they have agreed to sign Éric Abidal from Olympique Lyonnais as their summer rebuilding programme continues at full tilt.
The French international revealed that he will complete his medical tomorrow, before signing a four year contract, after the club had stated that a deal had been reached.
After spending several days in the Catalan capital, Abidal will become the Blaugrana's third signing of the summer after Thierry Henry and Yaya Touré were presented earlier this week.
The 27-year-old said officially that he was on holiday in Barcelona, but in reality he was waiting for negotiations with Lyon to be resolved and a deal to be announced.
"The negotiations have been long but now it's done and I'm very happy to play for Barcelona," he told Barça TV.
"Tomorrow morning (Friday) I will undergo a medical and then sign for the club.
"I have spent the last few days in Barcelona on holiday This has allowed me to familiarise myself with the city, the character of the place and the culture of the people."
Abidal won three consecutive French league titles with Lyon following his move from Lille in 2004 and he is an established member of the national team.
Barça have been long-time admirers of the full-back and lengthy negotiations saw the Catalan giants force the fee down.
Lyon originally wanted around €20m, while Barça opened with a bid of €12m before the two sides reached a deal this week.
FC Barcelona have announced that they have agreed to sign Éric Abidal from Olympique Lyonnais as their summer rebuilding programme continues at full tilt.
The French international revealed that he will complete his medical tomorrow, before signing a four year contract, after the club had stated that a deal had been reached.
After spending several days in the Catalan capital, Abidal will become the Blaugrana's third signing of the summer after Thierry Henry and Yaya Touré were presented earlier this week.
The 27-year-old said officially that he was on holiday in Barcelona, but in reality he was waiting for negotiations with Lyon to be resolved and a deal to be announced.
"The negotiations have been long but now it's done and I'm very happy to play for Barcelona," he told Barça TV.
"Tomorrow morning (Friday) I will undergo a medical and then sign for the club.
"I have spent the last few days in Barcelona on holiday This has allowed me to familiarise myself with the city, the character of the place and the culture of the people."
Abidal won three consecutive French league titles with Lyon following his move from Lille in 2004 and he is an established member of the national team.
Barça have been long-time admirers of the full-back and lengthy negotiations saw the Catalan giants force the fee down.
Lyon originally wanted around €20m, while Barça opened with a bid of €12m before the two sides reached a deal this week.
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The 27-year-old said officially that he was on holiday in Barcelona, but in reality he was waiting for negotiations with Lyon to be resolved and a deal to be announced.
"I have spent the last few days in Barcelona on holiday This has allowed me to familiarise myself with the city, the character of the place and the culture of the people
"I have spent the last few days in Barcelona on holiday This has allowed me to familiarise myself with the city, the character of the place and the culture of the people
R10 doing the same ?
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 29 2007, 12:07 AM)
Abidal is almost a Barcelona player... could that mean Zambrotta's way out is now open?? I hope so... and I hope Milan get him if that's really the case!
Hum. Zambrotta's agent denied any Milan or Roma link so I doubt.
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Abidal - Marquez - Puyol - Zambrotta
---------------- Valdes -----------------
If you take out Valdes
... you'll have a strong defensive side.
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 11:44 PM)
Hum. Zambrotta's agent denied any Milan or Roma link so I doubt.
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Abidal - Marquez - Puyol - Zambrotta
---------------- Valdes -----------------
If you take out Valdes ... you'll have a strong defensive side.
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Abidal - Marquez - Puyol - Zambrotta
---------------- Valdes -----------------
If you take out Valdes
... you'll have a strong defensive side.Abidal?
I thought he was the weak link at the World Cup for France, I'd put him in the 'awful' category myself.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 29 2007, 04:26 AM)
Abidal?
I thought he was the weak link at the World Cup for France, I'd put him in the 'awful' category myself.
I thought he was the weak link at the World Cup for France, I'd put him in the 'awful' category myself.
Actually Abidal is one of the best lb around. Good buy for Barca
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 27 2007, 07:29 PM)
They did it to Del Bosque and haven't won a title in 4 yaers after that.
I wasn't talking about that. I mean this kinda thing you won't see at Milan. He got them a title after a long drought and they just throw him out like that? Total lack of respect and professionalism. Because his footbal wasn't attractive enough? Please... They are only thinking about money and have no values. The won't ever be like Milan (no matter how CL they won).
I wasn't talking about that. I mean this kinda thing you won't see at Milan. He got them a title after a long drought and they just throw him out like that? Total lack of respect and professionalism. Because his footbal wasn't attractive enough? Please... They are only thinking about money and have no values. The won't ever be like Milan (no matter how CL they won).
they did it with hierro too :rolleyes.... what a bunch of dirty ingrates
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 06:44 PM)
Hum. Zambrotta's agent denied any Milan or Roma link so I doubt.
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Abidal - Marquez - Puyol - Zambrotta
---------------- Valdes -----------------
If you take out Valdes ... you'll have a strong defensive side.
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Abidal - Marquez - Puyol - Zambrotta
---------------- Valdes -----------------
If you take out Valdes
... you'll have a strong defensive side.it's more like
Abidal - Chivu - Puyol - Zambrotta
and a guy like marquez as a sub ... pretty damn good
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jun 29 2007, 04:49 AM)
they did it with hierro too :rolleyes.... what a bunch of dirty ingrates
Yeah, that was low too. Another thing that won't happen at Milan.
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Real join Chivu race
Friday 29 June, 2007
Real Madrid are reportedly ready to present an £11m offer to snatch Roma defender Cristian Chivu away from Barcelona.
Friday 29 June, 2007
Real Madrid are reportedly ready to present an £11m offer to snatch Roma defender Cristian Chivu away from Barcelona.
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Kevin-Prince Boateng hat bestätigt, dass er beim spanischen Pokalsieger und UEFA-Cup-Gewinner FC Sevilla auf der Wunschliste steht, und scheint einem Wechsel nicht abgeneigt. "Es gibt Interesse vom FC Sevilla", sagte Herthas Mittelfeldspieler am Freitagnachmittag kicker online. "Dieser Klub ist eine Top-Adresse in Europa."
by kicker.de
It says that Maresca is set to leave Sevilla to to go back to Italy. And that Sevilla wants to sign Kevin Prince Boateng (German U21 international) of Hertha BSC Berlin. IMO a very talented player. I dunno if it's already enough for Sevilla but he's defintely more talented than Maresca (not a better player though).
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 29 2007, 03:55 PM)
by kicker.de
It says that Maresca is set to leave Sevilla to to go back to Italy. And that Sevilla wants to sign Kevin Prince Boateng (German U21 international) of Hertha BSC Berlin. IMO a very talented player. I dunno if it's already enough for Sevilla but he's defintely more talented than Maresca (not a better player though).
It says that Maresca is set to leave Sevilla to to go back to Italy. And that Sevilla wants to sign Kevin Prince Boateng (German U21 international) of Hertha BSC Berlin. IMO a very talented player. I dunno if it's already enough for Sevilla but he's defintely more talented than Maresca (not a better player though).
I'm assuming he plays the same sort of role as Enzo?
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 29 2007, 04:56 PM)
I'm assuming he plays the same sort of role as Enzo?
Yap. He can play almost every position in the central midfield. As DM, CM and OM.
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 29 2007, 04:08 PM)
Yap. He can play almost every position in the central midfield. As DM, CM and OM.
Good, good.
Maresca's been pretty key for us over the last few years, I think it was inevitable he was going to return to Italy at some point. At least We've lined up a replacement immediately.
Forlan (Villarreal) just signed for Atletico Madrid - 21M/euros.
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 30 2007, 01:20 PM)
Forlan (Villarreal) just signed for Atletico Madrid - 21M/euros.
Good signing, Forlan warned Athletico he wouldn't move there to be a 'Torres backup'.
So that just about confirms Torres' exit.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 30 2007, 02:24 PM)
Good signing, Forlan warned Athletico he wouldn't move there to be a 'Torres backup'.
So that just about confirms Torres' exit.
So that just about confirms Torres' exit.
Not yet... not yet.
That is a ridiculous price (of Forlan)!
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 30 2007, 04:08 PM)
That is a ridiculous price (of Forlan)!
He's sh!t IMO but in Spain he scored lot of goals. The numbers are there.
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 30 2007, 06:08 PM)
That is a ridiculous price (of Forlan)!
It's more than that. It's an outrages price. 21mil? What the f@ck were they thinking?
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 30 2007, 04:15 PM)
It's more than that. It's an outrages price. 21mil? What the f@ck were they thinking?
Well, I'm not sure how correct this is, but Villa were interested in him and Villarreal were not exactly keen on selling him. If I remember correctly he had a buy-out clause of just under £15m (E21m = £14m) so it could be the case. Maybe Forlan was they guy they saw who could replace Torres' goal haul per season. So maybe he left Villarreal, who were unwilling to sell, with Athletico activating this clause?
They probably wanted somebody proven in Spain, there aren't many others, especially with Kanoute commiting to Sevilla.
I have to say I really admire Torres' own approach of the whole sage, he has rarely come out to say anything that could complicate things!
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 30 2007, 09:10 PM)
I have to say I really admire Torres' own approach of the whole sage, he has rarely come out to say anything that could complicate things!
And he has not lied
Though the Atletico fans see him more of the Maldini or their team rather than the Shevchenko of their team, if u get what I mean
He is everything to the Atletico fans
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Inter And Madrid Set For Diarra-Adriano Talks
The Corriere dello Sport are reporting that Inter Milan and Real Madrid are ready to begin discussions over a swap deal involving Adriano and Mahamadou Diarra.
Following’s Suazo signing, Inter are now focusing on finalising Cristian Chivu’s transfer, so that they can move on and focus on strengthening the midfield department.
The idea is that if Inter would not manage to net a playmaker who could substitute Figo, then president Moratti would follow coach Roberto Mancini’s advice to chase Real Madrid’s Mahamadou Diarria.
It is understood that Real Madrid could be willing to sell him, only on the condition that Inter would offer Adriano in return.
In fact, the Merengues are in search for a striker would could make up for Van Nistelrooy, who is currently out injured.
The Dutchman will miss the pre-season, and return only just in time for the start of the La Liga season, and the doctors have advised against playing him twice a week at least until October, if not November.
Inter and Real Madrid officials are set to meet soon in order to discuss the transfer.
The Corriere dello Sport are reporting that Inter Milan and Real Madrid are ready to begin discussions over a swap deal involving Adriano and Mahamadou Diarra.
Following’s Suazo signing, Inter are now focusing on finalising Cristian Chivu’s transfer, so that they can move on and focus on strengthening the midfield department.
The idea is that if Inter would not manage to net a playmaker who could substitute Figo, then president Moratti would follow coach Roberto Mancini’s advice to chase Real Madrid’s Mahamadou Diarria.
It is understood that Real Madrid could be willing to sell him, only on the condition that Inter would offer Adriano in return.
In fact, the Merengues are in search for a striker would could make up for Van Nistelrooy, who is currently out injured.
The Dutchman will miss the pre-season, and return only just in time for the start of the La Liga season, and the doctors have advised against playing him twice a week at least until October, if not November.
Inter and Real Madrid officials are set to meet soon in order to discuss the transfer.
Haha Corriere! 
After Makelele-mistake, I doubt Real Madrid will sell the best defensive midfielder in the world.
After Makelele-mistake, I doubt Real Madrid will sell the best defensive midfielder in the world.
Why... is he a selling any jerseys??
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 2 2007, 07:55 PM)
Why... is he a selling any jerseys??
The new Real Madrid kit is so ugly that not even Robben would sell a shirt.
So they're not getting Robben!? What about Kaka? Could he sell some?
By the way... how ugly can it be, it's white!? Do you have a picture of it?
What about Kaka? Could he sell some? By the way... how ugly can it be, it's white!?
Do you have a picture of it?
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 2 2007, 08:09 PM)
So they're not getting Robben!? What about Kaka? Could he sell some?
By the way... how ugly can it be, it's white!? Do you have a picture of it?
What about Kaka? Could he sell some? By the way... how ugly can it be, it's white!?
Do you have a picture of it?
Last year was WAY better.
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http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/...lo/1012242.html
Marca says Madrid is about to hijack Chivu from Inter and Barcelona. I'll laugh really loud if this happens since 5 days ago Moratti said "Chivu - 50% in Inter". (http://www.repubblica.it/2007/06/sezioni/sport/calcio/calciomercato-28-giu/calciomercato-28-giu/calciomercato-28-giu.html)
Blue stripes? That could be my country's shirt... wtf!?
Well... Moratti said 50%... that means the chance was even... let's not laugh at him even when he actually thinks before he speaks!
ps You can now burn that thing above!
Well... Moratti said 50%... that means the chance was even... let's not laugh at him even when he actually thinks before he speaks!
ps You can now burn that thing above!
That Madrid shirt looks more a Greece shirt
Robben, is too ugly to sell anything.
And has Garcia moved to Athletico yet
Robben, is too ugly to sell anything.
And has Garcia moved to Athletico yet
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jul 2 2007, 10:11 PM)
And has Garcia moved to Athletico yet
His agent said it will be official by tomorrow or so.
L.Garcia (I didn't know he's 29
) in Atletico and Fernando Torres in Liverpool to be official in some hours/days. Done deals.
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Bronzetti Reveals Roma-Madrid Agreement Over Chivu
Fifa agent Ernesto Bronzetti, who was a part of the negotiations between AS Roma and Real Madrid, has claimed that the two parties have reached an agreement.
An 18 million euro deal had reportedly been agreed this morning before Pedja Mijatovic decided to cloud the issue by claiming that the Merengue club yet had made no official offer.
"The two clubs will have to hold more talks," Mijatovic had said. "There is still nothing more now though.
"We may need another meeting, I do not know.
"Chivu is a great player and there a quite a few teams that are interested. We will have to see what happens.
"There has been no offer, though."
However, Bronzetti has just confirmed that a deal has indeed been struck, and the transfer will go ahead if Chivu gives the nod.
"Real Madrid and Roma have agreed that Chivu will be sold for 18 million euros," he said. "Now it is for Chivu to decide."
Fifa agent Ernesto Bronzetti, who was a part of the negotiations between AS Roma and Real Madrid, has claimed that the two parties have reached an agreement.
An 18 million euro deal had reportedly been agreed this morning before Pedja Mijatovic decided to cloud the issue by claiming that the Merengue club yet had made no official offer.
"The two clubs will have to hold more talks," Mijatovic had said. "There is still nothing more now though.
"We may need another meeting, I do not know.
"Chivu is a great player and there a quite a few teams that are interested. We will have to see what happens.
"There has been no offer, though."
However, Bronzetti has just confirmed that a deal has indeed been struck, and the transfer will go ahead if Chivu gives the nod.
"Real Madrid and Roma have agreed that Chivu will be sold for 18 million euros," he said. "Now it is for Chivu to decide."
Time for Chivu "do a Suazo".
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 3 2007, 08:39 PM)
Time for Chivu "do a Suazo".
I think Chivu is a great player and would love to see him stay in Italy. Even if it means seeing him wearing Blue and Black next season.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 3 2007, 11:40 PM)
I think Chivu is a great player and would love to see him stay in Italy. Even if it means seeing him wearing Blue and Black next season.
Do you want Milan to win the Scudetto or not?
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 3 2007, 08:46 PM)
Do you want Milan to win the Scudetto or not?
I don't see it changing anything.
What they gain defensively with Chivu, they'll lose offensively with Grosso.
That is if Grosso goes... but it's not just that. Chivu is a world-class defender, much better than anyone else Inter have (better than your lovely dumb_ss!) and Roma will be left with Mexes and Juan... they're both good (the Brazilian is much better IMO) but I think the combination of the two won't be a big success...
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 3 2007, 09:49 PM)
I don't see it changing anything.
What they gain defensively with Chivu, they'll lose offensively with Grosso.
What they gain defensively with Chivu, they'll lose offensively with Grosso.
Grosso is sh!t. The most overrated player I know. Even more than Lampard.
The guy simply sucks. Would be benched in Porto or Benfica.
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