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Hmm...I wonder if Sevilla are buying anyone. Reyes is looking good for them.
Oliveira + cash for Gago!!! 
Good deal for Barcelona! And better for us that he's not going Inter...
Good deal for Barcelona! And better for us that he's not going Inter...
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 24 2007, 01:56 PM)
Oliveira + cash for Gago!!!
Good deal for Barcelona! And better for us that he's not going Inter...
Good deal for Barcelona! And better for us that he's not going Inter...
Amen to that!!
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 24 2007, 09:19 AM)
Hmm...I wonder if Sevilla are buying anyone. Reyes is looking good for them.
I think Reyes is a good player, but he left us against our will to move on to bigger and better things. He can forget it.
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Atletico Madrid have denied reports that they have received an offer from Liverpool for Fernando Torres.
Reports over the last few days have suggested Liverpool were planning a move for the Spanish international.
It had been claimed Liverpool were ready to break their transfer record to sign Torres in a £25million deal.
Torres' future at Atletico is up in the air after another disappointing campaign at the Vicente Calderon last season.
The 23-year-old is believed to be considering moving on for a new challenge, but Atletico president Enrique Cerezo says they have received no offers for the talented forward.
"We've received no offer from Liverpool or any other club or player," said Cerezo.
"There is nothing linking Torres with any team. He's on holidays, he's resting and he'll return to work on July 9.
"All the players have a (buy-out) clause in their contract and in that case we would not be able to do anything, but I repeat that there has been nothing about Torres from any team.
"We are now working to create a good team for the coming year."
Sky Sports
Reports over the last few days have suggested Liverpool were planning a move for the Spanish international.
It had been claimed Liverpool were ready to break their transfer record to sign Torres in a £25million deal.
Torres' future at Atletico is up in the air after another disappointing campaign at the Vicente Calderon last season.
The 23-year-old is believed to be considering moving on for a new challenge, but Atletico president Enrique Cerezo says they have received no offers for the talented forward.
"We've received no offer from Liverpool or any other club or player," said Cerezo.
"There is nothing linking Torres with any team. He's on holidays, he's resting and he'll return to work on July 9.
"All the players have a (buy-out) clause in their contract and in that case we would not be able to do anything, but I repeat that there has been nothing about Torres from any team.
"We are now working to create a good team for the coming year."
Sky Sports
If he's got a buy out clause, that's not as ridiculous as Messi's, then he's a goner.
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Barcelona have announced the signing of Yaya Toure from Monaco.
Toure arrived in Barcelona for talks on Sunday and he has agreed personal terms and passed a medical at Camp Nou.
Barca have been chasing Toure for some time and they are believed to have paid €12million (£8million) for the Ivory Coast international.
Toure, who is the younger brother of Arsenal's Kolo, is regarded as one of the best young players in Europe.
The 24-year-old is Barca's second signing of the summer following the high-profile capture of Thierry Henry.
Sky Sports
Toure arrived in Barcelona for talks on Sunday and he has agreed personal terms and passed a medical at Camp Nou.
Barca have been chasing Toure for some time and they are believed to have paid €12million (£8million) for the Ivory Coast international.
Toure, who is the younger brother of Arsenal's Kolo, is regarded as one of the best young players in Europe.
The 24-year-old is Barca's second signing of the summer following the high-profile capture of Thierry Henry.
Sky Sports
Don't really know what to say. He was decent at the World Cup, that's all I've seen.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 26 2007, 12:06 AM)
If he's got a buy out clause, that's not as ridiculous as Messi's, then he's a goner.
40 million euros.
(Yeah... only 40M for a 23 yo amazing star + european + class)
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 25 2007, 05:29 PM)
40 million euros.
(Yeah... only 40M for a 23 yo amazing star + european + class)
(Yeah... only 40M for a 23 yo amazing star + european + class)
I hope to God he goes to Man U though.
From the club website:
COMUNICATO UFFICIALE A.C. MILAN
26/06/2007
MILANO - L'A.C. Milan comunica di aver ceduto a titolo temporaneo il calciatore Christian Abbiati all'Atletico Madrid fino al 30 giugno 2008.
[Abbiati is going to Atletico Madrid for a year.]
COMUNICATO UFFICIALE A.C. MILAN
26/06/2007
MILANO - L'A.C. Milan comunica di aver ceduto a titolo temporaneo il calciatore Christian Abbiati all'Atletico Madrid fino al 30 giugno 2008.
[Abbiati is going to Atletico Madrid for a year.]
Abbiati will be loaned to Atletico or what?
He's very good!
??
Why? Wouldn't you want him at Milan? Do you think he wouldn't make it?
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 26 2007, 02:10 AM)
Don't really know what to say. He was decent at the World Cup, that's all I've seen.
He's very good!
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 26 2007, 03:49 AM)
I hope to God he goes to Man U though.
??
Why? Wouldn't you want him at Milan? Do you think he wouldn't make it?
Yep, it's a 1 year loan to Atletico for Abbiati. I'm a little surprised; I'd thought he would stay at Torino.
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 26 2007, 01:20 PM)
??
Why? Wouldn't you want him at Milan? Do you think he wouldn't make it?
Why? Wouldn't you want him at Milan? Do you think he wouldn't make it?
I think pKill meant... "if not Milan" then M.United.
TBH I think Torres would fit better in Liverpool as they'd have the spanish community and friends (already know them, from the NT) there.
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I Will Take Every Cent Madrid Owe Me - Capello
Fabio Capello has insisted that if Real Madrid sack him, they will have to pay every cent of his salary for the next two years.
"It is a hypothesis that could become true," he admitted, speaking to AS during an interview, when asked about a possible sack.
"I am going on vacation. I will be in Tibet and China, and I am sure I will have plenty of time to think about my future."
"The president can decide whatever he wants," he continued. "If he has chosen Schuster, that is his business.
"As far as I know, I am going to respect my three year contract.
"I they sack me, they will have to pay me, and I will make sure I take the last cent."
Asked to comment on Ramon Calderon's performance, he chose to bite his lip, though.
"The judgement on Calderon, I will pass when I return from my long vacations."
It is expected that Capello will be given the sack in the coming days, as soon as Bernd Schuster wriggles out of his Getafe contract. Comments from Don Fabio seem to suggest that he himself is resigned to his fate.
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Fabio Capello has insisted that if Real Madrid sack him, they will have to pay every cent of his salary for the next two years.
"It is a hypothesis that could become true," he admitted, speaking to AS during an interview, when asked about a possible sack.
"I am going on vacation. I will be in Tibet and China, and I am sure I will have plenty of time to think about my future."
"The president can decide whatever he wants," he continued. "If he has chosen Schuster, that is his business.
"As far as I know, I am going to respect my three year contract.
"I they sack me, they will have to pay me, and I will make sure I take the last cent."
Asked to comment on Ramon Calderon's performance, he chose to bite his lip, though.
"The judgement on Calderon, I will pass when I return from my long vacations."
It is expected that Capello will be given the sack in the coming days, as soon as Bernd Schuster wriggles out of his Getafe contract. Comments from Don Fabio seem to suggest that he himself is resigned to his fate.
goal
You deserve it Fabio!
Don't you ever give them a title again though cause I'm gonna hate you!
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 26 2007, 06:20 AM)
Why? Wouldn't you want him at Milan? Do you think he wouldn't make it?
Yes, just name me one Spanish player who made it big in Serie A. I think he just fits Man U better than any other team. Liverpool do have a lot of Spanish players, but they play horrible football. Torres is a player who enjoy his football. He is very fast and very technical and he would fit in very well with the likes of Ronaldo, Rooney and Giggs in Man U. But there is a part of me that would still give an arm to see him play for us...
Random thought during lunch: rumor has it that Barca are getting rid of Deco this transfer season. They've signed Henry, Toure, (probably) Chivu, etc. But no playmakers.
I think that this may be a serious mistake. Deco is very important to Barca -- he's the one who dictates play and who gets the ball forward to the big guns. When he doesn't play well, the whole team looks off. Having no Deco (even an off-form one) next year along with all those strikers...makes me wonder wtf the Barca leadership are thinking.
Am I making sense? Or am I a few fries short of a Happy Meal?
I think that this may be a serious mistake. Deco is very important to Barca -- he's the one who dictates play and who gets the ball forward to the big guns. When he doesn't play well, the whole team looks off. Having no Deco (even an off-form one) next year along with all those strikers...makes me wonder wtf the Barca leadership are thinking.
Am I making sense? Or am I a few fries short of a Happy Meal?
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 26 2007, 11:58 AM)
Random thought during lunch: rumor has it that Barca are getting rid of Deco this transfer season. They've signed Henry, Toure, (probably) Chivu, etc. But no playmakers.
I think that this may be a serious mistake. Deco is very important to Barca -- he's the one who dictates play and who gets the ball forward to the big guns. When he doesn't play well, the whole team looks off. Having no Deco (even an off-form one) next year along with all those strikers...makes me wonder wtf the Barca leadership are thinking.
Am I making sense? Or am I a few fries short of a Happy Meal?
I think that this may be a serious mistake. Deco is very important to Barca -- he's the one who dictates play and who gets the ball forward to the big guns. When he doesn't play well, the whole team looks off. Having no Deco (even an off-form one) next year along with all those strikers...makes me wonder wtf the Barca leadership are thinking.
Am I making sense? Or am I a few fries short of a Happy Meal?
They will be trying to give first team play to the very very talented Iniesta. Plus Ronaldinho will concentrate more on play-making now that Barca have Henry and Eto'o together. There is always Xavi too who is finding his form again. They'll be more than fin attacking/ creating-wise. But they still don't have a decent defensive midfielder and that's gonna hurt them unless they sign someone.
I always liked Torres, and i reiterate my desire to get him
But can he adapt to Serie A? Only one way to find out
But can he adapt to Serie A? Only one way to find out
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jun 26 2007, 09:42 PM)
I always liked Torres, and i reiterate my desire to get him
But can he adapt to Serie A? Only one way to find out
But can he adapt to Serie A? Only one way to find out
Can we afford having another Oliveira or Jose Mari incedent ?! I think after waiting on Gilardino to become consistent .. The club should look for someone with a bit more experience at playing at a top club ..
Though I still regard Torres as a high quality player .. There are ONLY two cons to bringing him, they are; him being Spanish and him being at an average club.
In this case .. I would rather go with at the very least Shevchenko. At least he has proven what he can do.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 26 2007, 01:57 PM)
Can we afford having another Oliveira or Jose Mari incedent ?! I think after waiting on Gilardino to become consistent .. The club should look for someone with a bit more experience at playing at a top club ..
Though I still regard Torres as a high quality player .. There are ONLY two cons to bringing him, they are; him being Spanish and him being at an average club.
In this case .. I would rather go with at the very least Shevchenko. At least he has proven what he can do.
Though I still regard Torres as a high quality player .. There are ONLY two cons to bringing him, they are; him being Spanish and him being at an average club.
In this case .. I would rather go with at the very least Shevchenko. At least he has proven what he can do.
That's my concern too. But don't you ever bring Oli and Jose Mari in the same sentence as him... Torres is simply class. Much better than Villa. Just watch him move with the ball. His elegance, leadership and maturity kind of remind of.... I don't wanna say!!
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 26 2007, 08:48 PM)
Yes, just name me one Spanish player who made it big in Serie A.
I don't think a Spanish player of his qualities has ever stepped foot on, as channel4 like to say, the peninsula...
He would be great in my opinion. I think he has just as many possibilities to succeed in Serie A as every other player out there... including our targets R20, Eto'o, ...
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 26 2007, 08:58 PM)
Am I making sense? Or am I a few fries short of a Happy Meal?
I agree. Deco is for Barcelona one of the, if not the, greatest cogs in their machine. The others are doing the tricks, he's doing the hard work. They wouldn't have done it so good if he wasn't there!
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 26 2007, 02:30 PM)
I don't think a Spanish player of his qualities has ever stepped foot on, as channel4 like to say, the peninsula...
He would be great in my opinion. I think he has just as many possibilities to succeed in Serie A as every other player out there... including our targets R20, Eto'o, ...
I agree. Deco is for Barcelona one of the, if not the, greatest cogs in their machine. The others are doing the tricks, he's doing the hard work. They wouldn't have done it so good if he wasn't there!
He would be great in my opinion. I think he has just as many possibilities to succeed in Serie A as every other player out there... including our targets R20, Eto'o, ...
I agree. Deco is for Barcelona one of the, if not the, greatest cogs in their machine. The others are doing the tricks, he's doing the hard work. They wouldn't have done it so good if he wasn't there!
Stop it! You are breaking my heart... I want to justify him not coming somehow...
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 26 2007, 11:32 PM)
Stop it! You are breaking my heart... I want to justify him not coming somehow...
Who? Torres? Serie A is certainly not the place for him! He should better stay away...
...
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 26 2007, 02:55 PM)
Who? Torres? Serie A is certainly not the place for him! He should better stay away...
...
...
I feel better already.
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 26 2007, 09:30 PM)
I agree. Deco is for Barcelona one of the, if not the, greatest cogs in their machine. The others are doing the tricks, he's doing the hard work. They wouldn't have done it so good if he wasn't there!
And if they sell Deco to go for Lampard or so... I'd say it's a huge mistake. Lampard is nowhere near Deco in tecnique and in "diving" (important in La Liga).
Anyway... I hope so.
Just hope too that Deco does not join Inter.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 26 2007, 07:57 PM)
Can we afford having another Oliveira or Jose Mari incedent ?! I think after waiting on Gilardino to become consistent .. The club should look for someone with a bit more experience at playing at a top club ..
Though I still regard Torres as a high quality player .. There are ONLY two cons to bringing him, they are; him being Spanish and him being at an average club.
In this case .. I would rather go with at the very least Shevchenko. At least he has proven what he can do.
Though I still regard Torres as a high quality player .. There are ONLY two cons to bringing him, they are; him being Spanish and him being at an average club.
In this case .. I would rather go with at the very least Shevchenko. At least he has proven what he can do.
Getting him would be risky as there could be a million reasons why he can fail
On the other side he does have qualties needed and there is a good chance he can succeed
Your right about that .. And believe me, I really see a future for Torres at top club level. But at the same time, I think about it, then think of Gilardino .. I mean, I think what we need to challenge for all 5 competitions next season is someone who can put on his scoring boots and gets down to business, the closest there is to that is Shevchenko. But this is my assumption, and Torres could very well be a solution for our attack as much as he can be a liability just as Gilardino. This is what I ment ..
In anycase, I wouldn't mind Torres in a Milan shirt. I have always been a fan, just a bit skeptical ont he issue 'if he can adapt..'
In anycase, I wouldn't mind Torres in a Milan shirt. I have always been a fan, just a bit skeptical ont he issue 'if he can adapt..'
I like Torres too. But...well, my concern is that he'll have the same sort of adaptation problems to Serie A that Oliveira had. The styles of play between Serie A and La Liga are different, especially for the strikers. I'm just not sure he could make the transition. 
I have noticed that English, Spanish and Italian strikers generally only play well in their home league. Just look at the NTs of these three countries. 90% of the players are home based.
They all find it equally hard to adapt to each others league. Which is why Torres may prosper in Liverpool, since it's half Spanish anyways.
Maybe that's me that thinks that.
They all find it equally hard to adapt to each others league. Which is why Torres may prosper in Liverpool, since it's half Spanish anyways.
Maybe that's me that thinks that.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2007, 03:41 AM)
They all find it equally hard to adapt to each others league. Which is why Torres may prosper in Liverpool, since it's half Spanish anyways.
Maybe that's me that thinks that.
Maybe that's me that thinks that.
Not many world class players from the 'big 3' are trying to move. Why should they? They are already playing in a big league, big teams and it's close to home.
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 27 2007, 12:56 AM)
Not many world class players from the 'big 3' are trying to move. Why should they? They are already playing in a big league, big teams and it's close to home.
No, I know what you're saying. Those that have don't end up too great though. Here's a few examples: (They're not all stars, but you get the idea.)
Robbie Keane: Premiership player, tried his luck with Inter. Failed miserably.
Fernando Morientes: Prolific with both Madrid and Valencia, couldn't buy a goal at Liverpool.
Bernardo Corradi: He was decent enough at Parma and Lazio, but went abroad with Valencia (Spain) and Man City (England) and didn't really hit it off.
I find Dutch players seem to have the best 'adaptability', they have players doing very well in Spain/England/Germany/Italy. I'd like to see us enter the Dutch market, Huntelaar inparticular. Highly doubt we will though.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2007, 04:06 AM)
Here's a few examples: (They're not all stars, but you get the idea.)
Morientes is a good player, Corradi and Keane are sh!t.
Becham did o.k, Owen never got the opportunity, Mcmanaman played good only in his first season. Alonso is great (and the rest Spanish colony in Pool are o.k), Viery was superb in his only season in Spain. Also Vialli, Zola Ravanelli (spelling) were good. Cannavaro was average ... There are another few examples but not enough to tell something specific.
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 27 2007, 01:34 AM)
Morientes is a good player, Corradi and Keane are sh!t.
Becham did o.k, Owen never got the opportunity, Mcmanaman played good only in his first season. Alonso is great (and the rest Spanish colony in Pool are o.k), Viery was superb in his only season in Spain. Also Vialli, Zola Ravanelli (spelling) were good. Cannavaro was average ... There are another few examples but not enough to tell something specific.
Becham did o.k, Owen never got the opportunity, Mcmanaman played good only in his first season. Alonso is great (and the rest Spanish colony in Pool are o.k), Viery was superb in his only season in Spain. Also Vialli, Zola Ravanelli (spelling) were good. Cannavaro was average ... There are another few examples but not enough to tell something specific.
I suppose you're right. Though I believe a truly great player can go anywhere, regardless of how their team/opponents play.
Ruud van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo are the two guys I'd pick at the moment, they've scored a shed load of goals wherever they've gone.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2007, 04:40 AM)
I suppose you're right. Though I believe a truly great player can go anywhere, regardless of how their team/opponents play.
It depends on so many things. For example no one can say that Sheva or Henry aren't a great players, but sometimes, for different reasons, some things go wrong.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2007, 01:41 AM)
They all find it equally hard to adapt to each others league. Which is why Torres may prosper in Liverpool, since it's half Spanish anyways.
Maybe that's me that thinks that.
Maybe that's me that thinks that.
Half Spanish? How so?
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 27 2007, 11:02 AM)
Half Spanish? How so?
Well, the manager, and most of the players are Spanish and/or Spanish speaking.
Marca announced tonight that Capello and his staff were fired.
Tomorrow official. Schuster to be presented on the next days.
Tomorrow official. Schuster to be presented on the next days.
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 27 2007, 10:46 PM)
Marca announced tonight that Capello and his staff were fired.
Tomorrow official. Schuster to be presented on the next days.
Tomorrow official. Schuster to be presented on the next days.
Well that's just dumb. They've lost Becks and Capello, how're they going ti win a league title now?
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2007, 11:50 PM)
Well that's just dumb. They've lost Becks and Capello, how're they going ti win a league title now?
With Robben and Dani Alves.
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 02:05 AM)
With Robben and Dani Alves.
Not enough I'm affraid .. They lost Beckham - a well experienced player. And bring in Robben, a 23 year old. They need an experienced player more than anymore young players. But that is just me
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 01:46 AM)
Marca announced tonight that Capello and his staff were fired.
Tomorrow official. Schuster to be presented on the next days.
Tomorrow official. Schuster to be presented on the next days.
That's just show you how pathetic they are.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 28 2007, 12:16 AM)
Not enough I'm affraid .. They lost Beckham - a well experienced player. And bring in Robben, a 23 year old. They need an experienced player more than anymore young players. But that is just me
Imagine...
---------------- Nistelrooy------------------
-Robben--------Robinho-------D.Alves---
-------------Diarra-----Gago--------------
Drenthe-Cannavaro-Metzelder-S.Ramos
-------------------Casillas------------------
With Robben, Alves and Drenthe (80M/euros max in all of them). Sorry but this is a fvckin' great side.
Of course I'm just making this team up looking at the rumours (the 3 players above).
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 28 2007, 12:57 AM)
That's just show you how pathetic they are.
They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 27 2007, 07:16 PM)
Imagine...
---------------- Nistelrooy------------------
-Robben--------Robinho-------D.Alves---
-------------Diarra-----Gago--------------
Drenthe-Cannavaro-Metzelder-S.Ramos
-------------------Casillas------------------
With Robben, Alves and Drenthe (80M/euros max in all of them). Sorry but this is a fvckin' great side.
Of course I'm just making this team up looking at the rumours (the 3 players above).
They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.
---------------- Nistelrooy------------------
-Robben--------Robinho-------D.Alves---
-------------Diarra-----Gago--------------
Drenthe-Cannavaro-Metzelder-S.Ramos
-------------------Casillas------------------
With Robben, Alves and Drenthe (80M/euros max in all of them). Sorry but this is a fvckin' great side.
Of course I'm just making this team up looking at the rumours (the 3 players above).
They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.
marcelo is their replacement for R.carlos... i dunno why would they get drenth?
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jun 28 2007, 01:21 AM)
marcelo is their replacement for R.carlos... i dunno why would they get drenth?
Drenthe it's a recent rumour. Marcelo could be loaned, he's still very young. 18 I think... so it's difficult for him to play in such a big club.
Drenthe is 20 and more agressive than Marcelo. Just like him, the dutch can play as left-wing. Not just LB.
But... fvck me. Robben and Dani Alves on the wings would run any defense crazy.
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 03:16 AM)
Imagine...
---------------- Nistelrooy------------------
-Robben--------Robinho-------D.Alves---
-------------Diarra-----Gago--------------
Drenthe-Cannavaro-Metzelder-S.Ramos
-------------------Casillas------------------
With Robben, Alves and Drenthe (80M/euros max in all of them). Sorry but this is a fvckin' great side.
Of course I'm just making this team up looking at the rumours (the 3 players above).
They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.
---------------- Nistelrooy------------------
-Robben--------Robinho-------D.Alves---
-------------Diarra-----Gago--------------
Drenthe-Cannavaro-Metzelder-S.Ramos
-------------------Casillas------------------
With Robben, Alves and Drenthe (80M/euros max in all of them). Sorry but this is a fvckin' great side.
Of course I'm just making this team up looking at the rumours (the 3 players above).
They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.
I can imagine that .. As it does seem like a brilliant attacking formation
But look at the players, only Casillas, Nistelrooy and Cannavaro bring the experience to the side (Though there is Raul and co. .. I am going by what Carlos said, that Madrid are getting rid of the experienced players and replacing them with younger players). I mean, knowing Madrid, I wouldn't be surprised if they did sign those 3 players, as rumored. But they need more than those 3, they need experience, if they can sign one or two experienced players, they will be all set to become eventual rivals for the CL ..
Robben's transfer would make Calderon stop nagging about Kaka' .. Obviouslly I am for this move.
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 03:16 AM)
They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.
They did it to Del Bosque and haven't won a title in 4 yaers after that.
I wasn't talking about that. I mean this kinda thing you won't see at Milan. He got them a title after a long drought and they just throw him out like that? Total lack of respect and professionalism. Because his footbal wasn't attractive enough? Please... They are only thinking about money and have no values. The won't ever be like Milan (no matter how CL they won).
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 28 2007, 01:28 AM)
Robben's transfer would make Calderon stop nagging about Kaka' .. Obviouslly I am for this move.
I really hope they go for Robben (20? 30? 40M?) and D.Alves (30M?). That means no Kaka' this Summer...
*perk* Drenthe can play left back AND left wing? Er. Someone should tell Fester!
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 28 2007, 01:30 AM)
*perk* Drenthe can play left back AND left wing? Er. Someone should tell Fester!
Errr... Drenthe is 20. Not 30.
Can anybody say Arsenal?
Top proven striker, very young team. Doomed to fail.
Top proven striker, very young team. Doomed to fail.
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