So you think Buffon is worth 30m + Flamini ?

I think perhaps you may be being a bit harsh on Buffon, zeddie. (For the record, as stated above, no. I at least wouldn't pay 30m for him.)

How many times would i say...i do not dislike old player...I only dislike the fact that we kept signing OLD players rather than young good players....Old players whether good or bad is still old...Everyone considers us a retirement home..We just kept signing old players...I do not hate old players rather just the fact of just signing ONLY old players...That's what i said...Common guys we aren't getting into an argument over this..We family maine, we just tryna make Milan a better team and constantly signing old players like in the past hasn't helped us much...I'm just saying that we should go for young players..We said we were going to sign players in the summer and all of a sudden people and even Milan fans automatically thought we will end up with Cannavaro cuz that's what we've been doing....If milan still wants to sign old talented players, good...but we must sign young talented players too and everyone should be given their chances..That's all i'm saying

I am having a very hard time understanding the above post. What on earth is 'tryna' (for one)?

Kenny, your rant above is the same thing you've stated numerous times before - you don't like old players, you don't like that Milan signs old players - and I'm still calling you out on being a hypocrite because I don't recall you being upset when Ronaldinho (an aging player with a history of blowing off training) was signed.

I also think you are unreasonably and negatively biased against old players. 'Old whether good or bad is still old' is not exactly a compliment. 'Constantly signing old players hasn't helped us' - perhaps, perhaps not. The young players Leandro Grimi and Ricardo Oliveira weren't exactly great successes either. And I for one would take a healthy Nesta over a younger Senderos any day of the week.

You've also got a factual error in the 'we're signing cannavaro' thing. that's been pretty flatly denied and this time I think Galliani is telling the truth.

And this time I really AM going to stop responding because I think the whole argument is silly. If you want to expound your bias, feel free.

No, don't get me wrong. I love Buffon. I just think it's totally unreasonable (even if we're talking hypothetically) to pay 30m plus a player like Flamini for this Buffon. there's no guarantee that he will be back to his absolute best, is there?

lol...there's no prob Tennie, whatever Milan wants to do...Let them do!!! sign old players, young players...Me as a fan would just support....This argument is pointless..true.....We ain't signing these players, its Galliani's job...I ain't gon argue with u again Tennie...

No, there isn't. And yes, he's had an off season. I do agree about the 30m being way too much.

Let citeh pay it. If the Gobbi were to consider accepting 30m for Chiellini, I'd probably be a little more tempted (and not just because Fishdoll is a fanboy).

That's my point! sign players when they're at their prime not when they're on the decline. we shouldn't have signed Dinho and hopefully we won't even think about going for Adriano.

That's exactly what i was talking about...Not when they've won there is to win then years later they decide to come to Milan after they've played their hearts out..u just hit the nail on the head!!!

Fishdoll is worried!

We're agreeing again, zeddie! Time for the twice-a-year agreement thing then or sommat?

No I guess that's something everyone would agree about. see kenny's post above

Usually the prime years of football players is something between ~24-~30 (approximately). that's why some of us have been crying out for younger players because the age average of the squad is well above the standards. but then again, there are likes of Maldini, Del Piero, Inzaghi, etc. to show us the older ones can still play at high levels...

LOL @ buffon 30 million price tag. No thanks, juve can keep him. Thats Casillas or Cesar's price tag. Buffon right now is worth 20 million MAXIMUM. And thats if were being generous.




Agree with kenny above. Milan need to sign players who are entering their prime and not players who are on the verge of an exit. Ronaldinho was a mistake, and I hope we have learned from it. Not everyone is going to turn out to be like rui costa or cafu where they can still play at the top level at their peaking age.


Dzeko is a good option, but lets be serious. If we want to have a serious chance next year, we need to spend the cash or at least sell/trade the players to be able to get them. We need a world class striker. Adebayor would suffice but were to cheap so we'll settle for less always. I'm expecting adriano.


For the centreback, lets sign mexes. If they don't get 4th, he is a perfect signing. But reality will be something cheaper.


both would cost us around 40-50 million euros. But thats what we need right now. Sell oddo to bayern, bring back gourcuff and abate. Sell Dida or kalac; sign marchetti. At least thats the way we should do things if we hope to start the season off correctly.

Buffon is the best italian keeper after Dino Zoff and I want him in Milan, even with 45..

yeah he's great...but i think we dont really need him, keppers have been good for us these year...if we had a better defence our keppers would be the main targets in summer i'm sure, that's just the way it is...

True and about a couple of months ago I would have still said that he is the best in the world atm, right now the title is owned by Casillas.

Buffon atm isn't in good form and 30m plus Flamini is way too much for him, not because he's currently going through a rough patch but because of his age.

To me, we missed the Buffon boat when we had the chance during the calciopoli. He was at a great age and had we offered the money we would have gotten him, just like Inter got Viera and Ibra, Real got Canna and Puma and Barca got Zambro and Thuram.

But our management did not want to spend money, therefore we missed our shot at getting the worlds top goal keeper while he was at prime age and Juve had their backs to the wall.

Besides, I think it's pointless discussing goal keepers atm, since Abbiati got a renewal and I think it was made pretty clear that no money will go into improving that area of the sqaud. I don't see us splashing the cash this summer, CL or no CL. It's best if we spend whatever has been put aside for the mercato and focus on the defence, which is where we are going to get the real death blow this summer. Paolo is leaving, Favalli is truning 38 (don't know how long he's got on his contract but I don't think it's a lot and let's face it he's not reliable) Senderos is heading back to where he came from (thank God), Nesta's situation looks bleak atm and that Basically leaves us with Bonera and Tiago Silva, who both a very solid in their own right but neither is a world class CB, something we need if we're going to actually try to win somthing next season

I can't understand it still. Kaka is in bad form to - so - how much worth is he? Is he maybe "not good enough for Real" like "the 08/09 Buffon isn't for Milan"?

Are you seriously saying Cech is better than Buffon? Cech, who has let in 11 goals in his last 4 games?

there is no cech in his post

Hmm, seems I misread it a bit.
I'd still say Buffon is better than Casillas though, while he and Cesar are pretty much equal.

Cech is still very good but he's pretty much gone to pot since the head injury. His 4-4 performance was not his shining moment.


I'd think Abs' value has now decreased significantly after Favalli turned his knee to Shredded Wheat last month.

i'd say all three of them are great, and wouldn't mind anyone of them playing for milan...

Carlo says in post toro game that in milan is not a place for abate, that we don't need a wing and that he plays exactly this position but also says that he has improved a lot. It means that Yoan is coming back for sure and this is awesomeeeeeee!!!

It has no relation at all to whether Gourcuff returns.

And regarding Abate, he's correct: Milan don't usually play with wingers. He did NOT say Milan didn't need a winger. (FYI, Abate has been playing a bit at RB for Toro).

Yes, something like that, but i can read between the lines that abete will stay another year in toro for shure..

Sure it does have, we will get some new midfielder for sure, and we will not buy midfielders when we allready have midfielders like yoan, abete, di genaro and so on, so we will get someone back from loan and this will be yoan for sure and maybe someone else.

unless Bordeaux buy's his clause out...which i belive is possible

Or some club in spain makes a crazy offer for him (which may happen).

yep but in this option we can easily buy some other great midfielder with the money we earn but i would be very unhappy with this. i want him in milan!

I don't.

yes i know!

Well either one of them has to come if both can't come...There's rumour that Abate may not be coming back to Milan..However, he plays as a winger cuz that's where he's put to play...C.Ronaldo is a winger doesn't mean that he can't play attacking Mid or even a supporting striker...Neways either Gourcuff or Abate must come...It seems Abate may not come back but then Gourcuff has to!! However, it remains to be seen what will really happen

what does this word mean?

oh..its just a short form of saying anyways...

I've never seen that particular short form. It may be confusing to the many non-native speakers of English if too much slang is used.

lol...will cut down on use of slangs..

Abate could be transfromed into a right Back and will be very effective..He's very fast, can run back and forth, has accurate crosses..His speed on the Right will help us....I think if he's a right back, he'll be the fastest right back in the world cuz that kid's got speed n skills plus he defends a lot too....Guys doesn't this make sense?

It does indeed, kenny. I've been promoting the 'Abate as RB' campaign for a year. Sounds like he's played there a couple of times for Toro (he's said it in interviews).

In the 'if you thought they were mad Saturday, wait til they hear this' category is this astonishing new bit of gossip: Cannavaro (Fabio) to Juve next year. It's all over the Italian media and the story at least seems to be growing in popularity. Given that one common nickname for him from Juve fans is 'Brutus', I'm not too sure how they'll react.

I heard they're offering him a 4 year contract...

I don't know, I would have wanted him at Milan as a short term fix because of Nesta's problems and Paolo leaving, but offering Canna a 4 year contract to me would be a mistake on Juve's part.

They need to start thinking like a big team again. Because at this rate they're always going to be the team in idle, recovering from Serie B

Yes, Abate needs to return. He can play RWB or RM, his pace is amazing. Imagine a counterattack with Pato, Abate, and Kaka leading it?

Carlo denied the return of Abate so he is probably not coming back. Regarding Gourcuff, the fact that he is waiting until the end of the season to make a decision about his future, pretty much signals that there is a possibility for his return. IMO, i'm very sure he will return to Milan. Galliani has said it multiple times that if he doesn't transfer to Bordeaux, he will return to Milan.

Also regarding the clause, it doesn't matter if Bordeaux want to buy his clause out, he has the final say.

We have mattioni, and darmian in our ranks so in regards to abate, I can't see a point to his services. He is not anything special like pato so I see no point in investing money on him this summer.

We need to invest on a quality CB as our first and utmost highest priority. Thiago silva was a very smart transfer, as he will develop into a similar rank as Lucio. We need another defender right now who is better than both Bonera, Kaladze.

Mexes would be a good adition, but as i've said already, Bruno Alves from porto really impressed me agains ManUtd, i think he has the quality to become a world class cb, good heading, positioning, pace, technique...

I wouldn't mix up Kaladze and Bonera, but yes, we need a better CB. So Blues, how sure can you be, saying Thiago Silva will develop into a new Lucio?

bruno alves played well against man utd? Didnt he get the ball to roneys feet in the first game? Well, at least he already looks like a Milan defender! Please dont even try to say that he is good enough for Milan! He is under Kaladze ho is terrible!

c mon boys!

that was one mistake, stupid...everyone makes them, but under Kaladze?

I've watched him for a few years. Give it time, you'll come to see what I'm talking about.

I don't really like Lucio that much. So I hope he turns out to be something better, unique.

Abate as RB. Really, not convinced about that one. He's a winger pure and through. Yes, maybe he can play as AM from the right (a position we really really require). Anyone notice how we tore Torino a new one, down the right, with Flam and Becks. I've always said our attack is too left-centric (an important difference with Barca imo, with Henry on the left and Messi on the right),and that needs to be remedied.

Trouble is all our forward playing offensive players- Kaka, R80, Zee, Pato prefer the left side. Because they're dribblers who cut onto their strong foot.

This is another area of the team which is very imbalanced.

This post is very true...Absolutely correct......we lack there so bad..And Gattuso really doesn't know how to work down that right side offensively...Abate will be of good help

Certainly! I surely hope he's not like Lucio, his game was not like Lucio's in the two friendlies I saw him play.

Abate has not convinced me. I don't think he can be a starter for Milan and I don't see the point in bringing him in to rot on the bench especially when he's a winger and we don't even have a starter winger.

We don't play that way (with wingers) and I'm glad cause I like neither the system nor the wingers, I think they're too one-dimensional.

gourcuff could play right winger, if he comes back...only one who "maybe" come inside for shoting from right side can be borriello, but he's not a winger so don't know...i don't know if cardacio is right/left footed (stronger i mean )

It seems that there's an article on Corrieredellosport.it talking bout us being linked with Thiago Neves...

Hmm... again? It could be recycled or it could be fresh... I have never seen the guy play anyway.