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Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 20 2009, 09:01 PM) *
*** is... ?

Okay so he finished second. So has Spalletti a couple of times and I don't think you want him in Milan that much. Then there's also Capello and Carletto. The first a nobody (as a coach) when he joined us and the second a flop.

Haha.. laugh.gif

I was lazy to write assistant coach but my short version was automatically recognized like a "mean word".
Anyway, note that Ancelotti's Parma was a "smaller" team then Roma. But anyway, yes, both were unproven. But MvB isn't unproven, more that his "curriculum" bolds out the word - fail, as much as I liked it otherwise.
il_diavolo_mtl
Goal.com says Benzema is between us and Inter
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 20 2009, 10:48 PM) *
Goal.com says Benzema is between us and Inter

a report after that said it between real ,barca, manu and chelsea
il_diavolo_mtl
another report said barca's out
acid911
Oh God, let him come here! sad.gif Him or Gomez. Or anyone younger than 30 for that matter!
dst
Oh these reports are just so accurate... rolleyes.gif So the big teams are interested in one of the hottest young players in Europe? wow... and Spanish newspapers claim it's a fight between Barcelona and Madrid, Italian newspapers claim it's a fight between Milan and Inter while English inserts claim it's a fight between Chelsea and United. How imaginative!
MizNelson
QUOTE (l_diavolo_mtl)
since i have the luxury of having actual dida fans here lol may i ask what they think of abbiati because i think he's been overachieving all year and although has been in great form, isn't as good as dida. Bias? DEFINITELY

QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 18 2009, 06:51 AM) *
Wait for a member named MizNelson, she'll answer that. devil.gif Of course, I will too, but she's the biggest fan of Dida in these parts of the wood. In fact, she's probably a bigger fan of Dida than a thousand of us combined. LOL. I expect a very detailed answer from her, now that you've bought Abbiati up.

Took me long enough. Anyway, Abbiati is having a great season, yes. However, he's nowhere near as talented as Dida and never will be. Regrettably, I don't have much to say on the issue myself because acid covered it already here. I will add, however, that he seems to be doing better in small doses, which probably should have happened before he was benched last year; instead, he was regularly overworked due to inferior backups.

That being said, I am upset that his best effort this year so far was in a useless Coppa Italia match (Lazio) instead of the UEFA Cup.
acid911
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Feb 21 2009, 09:47 AM) *
That being said, I am upset that his best effort this year so far was in a useless Coppa Italia match (Lazio) instead of the UEFA Cup.

Took you long enough, alright! biggrin.gif Anyway I agree with your post, Miz, particularly about this last part. He was amazing in that match, the player of old. As for Abbiati, well I think after all this years his luck has finally come back to him. He's been really lucky with the fans (he's let in lots of goals and seldom turned a match on his own, a la Cesar, for example), as well as with his form (made some rather excellent saves and stops).

For the time being I think we're decent if not spectacular in the goalie department, and certainly won't be going for another GK in this transfer window. Next year, most probably. This time it'll be defense and maybe a forward.
Fillipo Simone
Agree. But then again, Abbiati's career has always been like that, unexpected up's and down's. He benched Seb Rossi, the Seb Rossi from Milan, never did anything "completely wrong", but somehow got pushed aside by Dida, who ****up against Leeds, so Abbiati returned, and then after a while (season or so) Dida took over again...
Zed.D
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 21 2009, 04:25 AM) *
Oh these reports are just so accurate... rolleyes.gif So the big teams are interested in one of the hottest young players in Europe? wow... and Spanish newspapers claim it's a fight between Barcelona and Madrid, Italian newspapers claim it's a fight between Milan and Inter while English inserts claim it's a fight between Chelsea and United. How imaginative!




I'm not even thinking about Benzema as a Milan target. we usually don't buy such talents at this age - when they're established and wanted by all of Europe's big teams. instead we wait until they're 31, cheap and unwanted, then we move for them. I doubt that we can economically compete with likes of Man U, Real, Barca, etc. anyway...


That said, something tells me Galliani and co. will move for Adebayor sooner or later.
acid911
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 21 2009, 01:22 PM) *
Agree. But then again, Abbiati's career has always been like that, unexpected up's and down's. He benched Seb Rossi, the Seb Rossi from Milan, never did anything "completely wrong", but somehow got pushed aside by Dida, who ****up against Leeds, so Abbiati returned, and then after a while (season or so) Dida took over again...

True. biggrin.gif For me Abbiati has always been one step out of the big league. In his club career as well as with the NT. More talented than someone as Kalac, miles ahead of James/Gomes - just shy of the top spot. That makes him a very good 2nd choice in any club, actually, not just Milan. That's why I said he's finally got his luck back.

Am I a fan? No way! Far from it. But I'd rather have Abbiati in our squad than that of any other club.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 21 2009, 01:29 PM) *
That said, something tells me Galliani and co. will move for Adebayor sooner or later.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no! sad.gif
CrazyMilanFan
i dont like adebeyour myself but tactically he is the sort of player we need
MizNelson
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 21 2009, 12:22 AM) *
Agree. But then again, Abbiati's career has always been like that, unexpected up's and down's. He benched Seb Rossi, the Seb Rossi from Milan, never did anything "completely wrong", but somehow got pushed aside by Dida, who ****up against Leeds, so Abbiati returned, and then after a while (season or so) Dida took over again...

Dida was given the starting spot over Rossi by Zaccheroni after Abbiati was called up for the 2000 Olympics. He was benched again when Abs returned.
Fillipo Simone
Really? Was it immediatly? I always somehow related Dida's benching with the Leeds match..
acid911
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Feb 21 2009, 03:02 PM) *
i dont like adebeyour myself but tactically he is the sort of player we need

He's the sort we need, not the quality, not the class! dry.gif And why are we only looking at Arsenal or Barca for our needs? Surely there are other clubs, there are other players, other talents. Better options. Maybe once he proves himself for a longer period of time (when he's around 28 or something), but surely not now.

If it's a big and burly fellow we need, go hunting in Germany and get a random tall, but talented player. Cheaper.
MizNelson
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 21 2009, 02:18 AM) *
Really? Was it immediatly? I always somehow related Dida's benching with the Leeds match..

The Leeds match definitely was a factor in his going back to the bench when Abs returned. Dida's first match in a Milan shirt was also in the CL, a 4-1 win over Besiktas a week before Leeds. He put in a strong performance in a 2-0 win over Barcelona the week after Leeds. Then Abs came back, and you know the rest.

Had he not screwed up that night, it might've changed history. But then over the course of this decade, he went on to win everything with Milan while Leeds slowly swirled down the toilet of English football and are barely staying afloat nowadays.
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 21 2009, 10:59 AM) *
He's the sort we need, not the quality, not the class! dry.gif And why are we only looking at Arsenal or Barca for our needs? Surely there are other clubs, there are other players, other talents. Better options. Maybe once he proves himself for a longer period of time (when he's around 28 or something), but surely not now.

If it's a big and burly fellow we need, go hunting in Germany and get a random tall, but talented player. Cheaper.

well in that case i would not go to germany i would stay in italy for someone like Quagliarella, bianchi, Floccari, pazzini for the in box stiker
acid911
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Feb 21 2009, 05:40 PM) *
well in that case i would not go to germany i would stay in italy for someone like Quagliarella, bianchi, Floccari, pazzini for the in box stiker

Suit yourself. laugh.gif Anyone but one-or-two-season wonders!
Zed.D
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Feb 21 2009, 04:10 PM) *
well in that case i would not go to germany i would stay in italy for someone like Quagliarella, bianchi, Floccari, pazzini for the in box stiker


I think none of them are exactly what we need. maybe Pazzini and Bianchi, but neither look like a Milan-level striker anyway. (I don't know anything about Floccari and am not talking about him)

Toni, Iaquinta, Drogba and Adebayor (and from those we can't have, Zlatan and Adriano)... those are the closest to what we need.
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 21 2009, 12:57 PM) *
Suit yourself. laugh.gif Anyone but one-or-two-season wonders!

nahi yaar Quagliarella is quite good has been for quite some time
Zed.D
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Feb 21 2009, 04:33 PM) *
nahi yaar Quagliarella is quite good has been for quite some time


Isn't Quag more or less in the mold of Pato? (in other words, he's not a target man with great aerial ability, is he? he's one with good technique, more capable on the ground than in the air). if we're going for such a striker, I'd rather have G.Rossi. he looks much more promising to me.
acid911
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Feb 21 2009, 06:03 PM) *
nahi yaar Quagliarella is quite good has been for quite some time

Haan yaar, magar woh uss tarah ka player nahi jo hamain chahiyay. tongue.gif

In simpler terms, he's not exactly the type of player we need. Even though I rate him very highly, and have done so for the past few years. But I'd rather save the money and get Paloschi back, because frankly we need a 6-2" to 6-4" guy up there, that can both run with the ball, and also keep it when he's given one. smile.gif Such a presence could very well free up space for our other attackers. Bottom line: We need a slightly younger Drogba.
LaPalma
How about Bochums Christoph Dabrowski, he's my favorite Bundesliga player, he's a tall (1.95m) midfielder who scores great goals from time to time (in this season he already scored 6).
Nah, seriously. Good strikers in the Buli? There's Gomez of course (my favorite German striker) and there's also Leverkusens Patrick Helmes. The latter is a formidable target man and has been in great form since he joined Leverkusen last summer. If you simply want someone who's tall, Leverkusens Stefan Kießling is your man...but he's more the working kinda striker...not the one who scores many goals (this is, seriously, no offense).
Tennie
Factoid: Helmes put two past Hoffenheim's keeper (Timo Hildebrand) last weekend. Nicely taken goals too.

That said, if we only get to pick one player from Leverkusen, I'm still picking Adler first.
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 21 2009, 02:36 PM) *
Factoid: Helmes put two past Hoffenheim's keeper (Timo Hildebrand) last weekend. Nicely taken goals too.

That said, if we only get to pick one player from Leverkusen, I'm still picking Adler first.

yea but u know keeper is not main priority
Tennie
Right. Sorry, forgot I'm not supposed to have any opinions here.
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 21 2009, 02:52 PM) *
Right. Sorry, forgot I'm not supposed to have any opinions here.

sorry didnt mean anything like that infact agreed with ur opinion i really like rene aswell
MizNelson
QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 21 2009, 06:36 AM) *
That said, if we only get to pick one player from Leverkusen, I'm still picking Adler first.

I've heard from some that Adler is a stud in the making.
Tennie
Fishdoll sorries for snapping at CMF and offers a cookie in apology.

And yeah, I'm a big fan of Adler. He's really quite good.
Bluesummers
adler is really good but abbiati this season has proved himself to be milan`s number 1 for a while.
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE
adler is really good but abbiati this season has proved himself to be milan`s number 1 for a while.

No!
MizNelson
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 21 2009, 06:58 PM) *
No!

I second that.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Feb 22 2009, 04:56 AM) *
I second that.

That makes 3 of us.
Bluesummers
lol why? who are we gonna get thats better for under 20 mil? Realistically speaking
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 22 2009, 10:35 AM) *
That makes 3 of us.

4 actually. biggrin.gif Count me in!
Habitant
QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 22 2009, 09:08 AM) *
4 actually. biggrin.gif Count me in!

5 biggrin.gif we dont need any fascists
dst
4. I say we keep Abbiati. (does it work that way, subtracting a point for every opposite view? biggrin.gif )
MizNelson
QUOTE (Habitant @ Feb 22 2009, 02:28 PM) *
5 biggrin.gif we dont need any fascists

You people rock. smile.gif

Anyway, there's a bunch of Abs groupies at R&B who make me sick. For instance, they're rating him 7s today for making two saves while Dida got no more than 6 for making nearly three times as much against Bremen.
dst
I love you too Miz! wub.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Habitant @ Feb 22 2009, 11:28 PM) *
5 biggrin.gif we dont need any fascists

Well...it's not his fault. Fascism hasn't been deconstructed in Italy, so, you can't blame the common people.

But honestly, today Abbiati deserved praise. Did a very good job, in particular neutralizing those Aquafresca shots.
MizNelson
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 22 2009, 03:19 PM) *
I love you too Miz! wub.gif

I feel so adored here. I love it. smile.gif

*pecks dst on the cheek*
Fillipo Simone
Does anyone consider perhaps Michele Canini from Cagliari as a CB option for Milan?
Tennie
Yep. There was some half-serious talk about him before his injury. Now that he's recovered, I'd imagine he's in contention. The big clubs are likely going to be picking over the Sardi at the end of the season.
MizNelson
That's the problem when you become a contender all of a sudden. It's the impending concern about other teams throwing money at you in order to pick your team apart.
Bluesummers
@miz: Problem with Dida is that he is stuck under carlo. You make one mistake and your done and unfortunately for him the celtic incident cost him the rest of his career.


But to be honest abbiati > dida.

dont hurt me... I love you miz wub.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 22 2009, 09:44 PM) *
Yep. There was some half-serious talk about him before his injury. Now that he's recovered, I'd imagine he's in contention. The big clubs are likely going to be picking over the Sardi at the end of the season.


I heard we were talking kaladze + money swap but thats out the window now.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 23 2009, 10:50 AM) *
You make one mistake and your done


*cough* Kaladze *cough*
LaPalma
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 23 2009, 12:49 AM) *
Well...it's not his fault. Fascism hasn't been deconstructed in Italy, so, you can't blame the common people.

The way I see it he wasn't forced to be a fascist by any means, thus choose that inhuman ideology by free will. We can't always be the victims of circumstances.

QUOTE
@miz: Problem with Dida is that he is stuck under carlo. You make one mistake and your done and unfortunately for him the celtic incident cost him the rest of his career.

One mistake? I remember a dozen or so. Other coaches would have benched him long before Carletto did it.
Jack Sparrow
Yup.

You need a dozen good performances to make it into Carlo's good books. And another dozen to make your way out. In the space of two months I think.

Dida had a miserable season and a half. Kaladze looks like he's on his way out. Judging by the way Senderos was brought in instead.
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 23 2009, 03:10 AM) *
Does anyone consider perhaps Michele Canini from Cagliari as a CB option for Milan?

i really like him had he not been injured in first part of the season i think there would have been some serious interest in him from many clubs i think i will take canini over agger
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