QUOTE (dst @ Jul 4 2009, 09:54 AM)

but we'll sign no one.
why do you say that ?
CrazyMilanFan
Jul 4 2009, 11:17 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 4 2009, 10:54 AM)

hahaha what the ****!?!?
Zhirkov!?? He's very good! Now that would be sweet.
Anyone else hates this loan deal for Huntelaar? This is so not something a big club does.
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... but we'll sign no one.
what bad abt tht we will get 2 stikers good stikers that means more options as for the big clubs no big clubs sells players for money so......
Ry4n
Jul 4 2009, 11:36 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 4 2009, 09:54 AM)

hahaha what the ****!?!?
Anyone else hates this loan deal for Huntelaar? This is so not something a big club does.
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... but we'll sign no one.
True but what happens if we Buy Huntelaar and bring Fabiano on loan they are both Grade A players so the more the merrier we always said we need depth , if we do bring Huntelaar on loan we should have a option to sign at the end of the season
Zed.D
Jul 4 2009, 12:14 PM
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Anyone else hates this loan deal for Huntelaar? This is so not something a big club does.
We're not a big club anymore as far as spending $$$ in concerned.

and I think it's a loan deal with the option to buy. I think Madrid don't need Huntelaar anymore. we do!
purwo
Jul 4 2009, 01:44 PM
I'm so fed up with milan management
when people told them to get players with more experience, they went to the oldies
and then when people start talking about younger players, they go to the babies
sorry for my bad english guys
kurtsimonw
Jul 4 2009, 03:14 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 4 2009, 10:54 AM)

Zhirkov!?? He's very good! Now that would be sweet.
Anyone else hates this loan deal for Huntelaar? This is so not something a big club does.
I thought Zhirkov was going to Chelsea?
Big clubs can still loan players.. Tevez/United, Batistuta/Inter, Anelka/Liverpool.
vahid
Jul 4 2009, 05:55 PM
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MADRID, July 4 (Reuters) - Real Madrid need to sign two more players and off-load about 10 to round off their summer transfer dealings, club president Florentino Perez has said.
The nine-times European champions have already splashed around 215 million euros ($303 million) on bringing striker Karim Benzema, winger Cristiano Ronaldo, playmaker Kaka and defender Raul Albiol to the Bernabeu.
“Now we need to calm down a little because squads usually have around 25 players and ours now has some 35,” Perez told Spanish television station Cuatro.
“We need to concentrate our efforts on convincing some players that they will have to leave. It should not be forgotten there is a World Cup next summer and all our players want to play in it.
“If players aren’t going to have the chance to participate here they’ll want to do it somewhere else, to be able to make it to the World Cup.
“As to new signings, I think with two more we would have sufficient.”
Perez was asked about Real’s interest in Bayern Munich winger Franck Ribery and Liverpool midfielder Xabi Alonso.
“They are both great players but their clubs don’t want to sell them, though in the world of football situations can change,” he added.
Real have already sold Javier Saviola, and the Dutch contingent of Ruud van Nistelrooy, Arjen Robben, Wesley Sneijder, Rafael van der Vaart, Royston Drenthe and Klaas Jan Huntelaar are all reportedly on the market. (Writing by Mark Elkington; Editing by John O’Brien;
Huntelaar and one of those midfielders(Sneijder or VDV) would be great signings.
mishie
Jul 4 2009, 08:34 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 4 2009, 10:54 AM)

Anyone else hates this loan deal for Huntelaar? This is so not something a big club does.
Er Sheva last season wasn't he on loan...i withoout intending to offend we are a big club based on our past not the present...like Galliani said these next 2 seasons are about balencing the books before we can spend big again so this is how we will behave in the next 3 or 4 mercato
MizNelson
Jul 4 2009, 09:45 PM
han2503
Jul 4 2009, 09:47 PM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Jul 4 2009, 08:45 PM)

mishie
Jul 4 2009, 09:50 PM
what a relief that is!!! Hunterlaar please loan or buy i don't care
han2503
Jul 4 2009, 10:17 PM
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Milan zoom in on Zhirkov
Milan are turning towards CSKA Moscow star Yuri Zhirkov for the left flank, but face competition from Chelsea.
The Rossoneri had secured Aly Cissokho for that role, but the move collapsed after the Porto man failed a medical.
It is now reported that the new target is Russian international Zhirkov, who is tactically versatile for his ability to play left-back or on the left side of midfield.
He turns 26 next month and has also been linked with former Milan boss Carlo Ancelotti at Chelsea.
Zhirkov was among the 30 nominees for the Ballon d’Or in 2008 and named in the Euro 2008 Team of the Tournament.
It is claimed Zhirkov would like a move to Serie A, while his £10m price-tag is roughly what the Diavolo would’ve paid for Cissokho.
There is also news for Cissokho, as his failed medical due to a teeth problem has not been enough to shake off interest from other clubs.
French newspaper L’Equipe claims the Porto starlet is the focus of a tug-of-war between Olympique Lyonnais and Inter.
Apparently we're in 'battle' with Chelsea over this as well.

This Chelsea vs Milan thing is getting real old.
$10 says that neither team is really interested in him
han2503
Jul 4 2009, 10:56 PM
Apparently Braida and Galliani are in Spain for Huntelaar.
Original asking price was in the region of 30m (which is insane imo, we should get 2 of their Dutchies for that ammount [Sneijder pls] )
They're trying to negotiate a loan deal with option to buy which could surprisingly go through given the relationship between Perez and Galliani
mishie
Jul 4 2009, 11:15 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 4 2009, 10:56 PM)

Apparently Braida and Galliani are in Spain for Huntelaar.
Original asking price was in the region of 30m (which is insane imo, we should get 2 of their Dutchies for that ammount [Sneijder pls] )
They're trying to negotiate a loan deal with option to buy which could surprisingly go through given the relationship between Perez and Galliani
#stated numerous time about my liking for Huntelaar...my preference would be for Van Dar Vaart to be honest but 2 out of those 3 would make me happy....a dutch trio now were can i remember that from
han2503
Jul 4 2009, 11:19 PM
QUOTE (mishie @ Jul 4 2009, 11:15 PM)

#stated numerous time about my liking for Huntelaar...my preference would be for Van Dar Vaart to be honest but 2 out of those 3 would make me happy....a dutch trio now were can i remember that from

Where would we play VdV?
We'd have to play 4-2-3-1 if we got him, were as Sneijder is a shoe in for that Seedorf position in the midfield...
If we're thinking like that why not get all 3 of them and give Seedorf in exchange to Real?

You think they'd accept it?
mishie
Jul 4 2009, 11:22 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 4 2009, 11:19 PM)

Where would we play VdV?
We'd have to play 4-2-3-1 if we got him, were as Sneijder is a shoe in for that Seedorf position in the midfield...
If we're thinking like that why not get all 3 of them and give Seedorf in exchange to Real?

You think they'd accept it?

depends on Pirlo going or staying..if he goes then VdV could drop a little deeper or if he stays then it would have to be a choice between the 2..either way like them both and with Jan as well...we can dream lol
Huntelaar for 30m!??!

They bought him for 20 or so and he's had a mediocre six months with them, how can his price have gone up? They really need the money and they don't know what they're saying! They should be happy with 15!
Habitant
Jul 4 2009, 11:36 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 4 2009, 10:27 PM)

Huntelaar for 30m!??!

They bought him for 20 or so and he's had a mediocre six months with them, how can his price have gone up? They really need the money and they don't know what they're saying! They should be happy with 15!
i know

they really are a bunch of desperate fckers, god the nerve those twts.
kurtsimonw
Jul 5 2009, 01:40 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 4 2009, 11:27 PM)

Huntelaar for 30m!??!

They bought him for 20 or so and he's had a mediocre six months with them,
how can his price have gone up? They really need the money and they don't know what they're saying! They should be happy with 15!
Prices for players are made in accordance to other players being sold at the time. With the Ronaldo/Kaka' prices, I wouldn't say 30m is far off for Huntelaar.
Bluesummers
Jul 5 2009, 03:42 AM
If we do indeed sign Huntelaar, This is how I think it'll go down.
We'll pay them about 4 million for the inital loan fee, pay 100% of his wage and then put a release clause around 20 million euroes for him. Madrid want some profit and that is a reasonable fee for a potential worldclass striker. If he does brilliant than we have just earned ourselves a great deal, if not then 4 million is not that big of a deal.
It'll be done by at most july 17-20 is what i'm presuming.
Note: Huntelaar currently makes about 83k/week with his bonuses included, which is not bad at all when inzaghi's inital wage is set at 77k/week w/o bonuses.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 5 2009, 03:40 AM)

Prices for players are made in accordance to other players being sold at the time. With the Ronaldo/Kaka' prices, I wouldn't say 30m is far off for Huntelaar.
You are right but this is when prices have gone up for everyone... right now, it's only Madrid that's spending excessively.
Bluesummers
Jul 5 2009, 07:59 AM
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Luis Fabiano's agent has revealed that his client is desperate to move to Milan.
The Brazilian striker appears to be Milan's top transfer target, and his agent is keen for a deal to go through. However, he believes Sevilla are being unrealistic in their valuation of the player.
Speaking to AS, the agent said, "We cannot go by the fees that Real Madrid
are paying.
"Those are abnormal numbers. The reality is that we are in a global economic crisis.
"It is unrealistic to expect another transfer fee in the region of those for Daniel Alves and Sergio Ramos."
He then explained his reasoning, continuing, "Luis Fabiano is 29 years old.
"I hope Jose Maria del Nido understands the human aspect, which is that the player wants to go to Milan. He can not go crazy with transfer fees.
"Sevilla bought him cheaply, and can still make a profit."
With their quest for Edin Dzeko having failed, Fabiano remains Milan's top target, although Emmanuel Adebayor is emerging as a viable alternative.
Am I reading this right

An agent who understand the current situation

!!!!
He is right thought, clubs gotta act realistic. Right now every club wants at least 30 million for their players because madrid can pay it they assume all clubs are able to

F*ck sakes platini should get off his @ss and do something, if this keeps going on the game is doomed.
Jack Sparrow
Jul 5 2009, 08:22 AM
He can't. As he said in the Madrid case...if the banks are offering a guarantee there's little he can do. None of it is violating the current UEFA laws. However the new UEFA ruling on clubs spending only what they earn is interesting though. But there will be complications involved in enforcing it.
Bluesummers
Jul 5 2009, 09:19 AM
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Milan Vice President Adriano Galliani travelled to Spain this weekend to open talks with Real Madrid supremo Florentino Perez over Dutch international hitman Klaas-Jan Huntelaar.
After failing to lure Wolfsburg ace Edin Dzeko to the San Siro, the Rossoneri have turned their focus to the 25-year-old, who has been deemed surplus to requirements at the Bernabeu following the arrivals of Kaka, Cristiano Ronaldo and Karim Benzema.
But the Corriere dello Sport claims that Perez has rejected Galliani’s offer to sign the player on a loan basis, with a view to a permanent move next season.
Real paid €27million to bring him in from Ajax only six months ago and are said to be holding out for €20m.
But La Gazzetta dello Sport suggests Milan are only willing to put up to €18m on the table and could lodge an official bid over the next few hours.
Milan have yet to bring in any new faces this summer, except for Brazilian defender Thiago Silva, who has trained with the club since last January anyway.
The Rossoneri will meet up to start pre-season training tomorrow morning.
Zed.D
Jul 5 2009, 10:09 AM
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Report: Real Madrid Reject Milan's Klaas-Jan Huntelaar Loan Proposal
If it means we will end up signing only Fabiano, then I'm disappointed. but if it means we will have to sign him permanently, then I'm perfectly OK with it. all of a sudden he's become my favorite transfer target. fingers crossed it's finalized as soon as possible.
han2503
Jul 5 2009, 12:56 PM
I don't understand why we want him on loan, Real want to get some money back, there is no way they're going to settle for a loan for any of their players.
I'm thinking, offer them 30m and get Huntelaar and one of the Dutch mids. I think this would be a reasonably offer and Real would accept it
CrazyMilanFan
Jul 5 2009, 01:26 PM
wonder what we are upto uptill now we have always been short of 5 million oe so on offers
xcube
Jul 5 2009, 01:30 PM
well i think Milan Should Get Huntlaar in full ownership not a loan ... i've been watching him in ajax for long time and i have to say i didnt see and striker that finish the ball in the net since inzagi and he could be his replacement in milan and another reason Leonardo want to play 4-4-2 and he need a good striker like Huntlaar next to pato. Fabiano is good striker but he's 29 and Huntlaar in 24 or something so in calculation Huntlaar in the best solution for youth team thats my opinion.
kurtsimonw
Jul 5 2009, 01:33 PM
I would really like us to sign either van der Vaart or Sneijder too, preferably Sneijder. Our attacking options would be okay then!
xcube
Jul 5 2009, 01:42 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 5 2009, 12:33 PM)

I would really like us to sign either van der Vaart or Sneijder too, preferably Sneijder. Our attacking options would be okay then!
Well Van der vaart is good but u have alot of attackers in milan and sneijder would be good replacement for pirlo if he wants to leave milan. but i would stick with Huntlaar and sneijder
Zed.D
Jul 5 2009, 01:50 PM
The only player Madrid would sell us is the Hunter IMO.
xcube
Jul 5 2009, 02:13 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 5 2009, 01:50 PM)

The only player Madrid would sell us is the Hunter IMO.
Milan have good relationship with real madrid i hope to take advantage of it and get huntlaar .... i cant watch the news all the teams are getting the best players super players and we are getting babies we need to get a superstar player to replace KAKA` ... like Juve when the get Diego and inter when the sign ( Milito and Mota )
xcube
Jul 5 2009, 02:23 PM
I had this Explanation why were doing this ... (No More Red Numbers) ~Silvio Berluscuni~ i think he's trying to reduce the loss amount and preparing everything to sell the team ... i know some people is not agreeing with me but lets face it ... When was Milan in loss 5 years back we didnt but a major superstar player except ronaldinho and most of them we got the on loan or at cheap price .... Berluscuni didnt pay alot and he was away from milan to be prime minister milan fan is angry now and the best way to show how mad they are the season tickets subscriptions is 400 till now ... its just my view and some may not agree with me
han2503
Jul 5 2009, 02:33 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 5 2009, 12:50 PM)

The only player Madrid would sell us is the Hunter IMO.
All their Dutch players need to leave imo. None of them will want to sit on the bench simple as that. And it would be a waste really.
Robben, Huntelaar, Nistelroy and VdV especially, they play more forward then Sneijder does and with Kaka, C.Ron and Benzema there is no room for them. I'd take all of them except for Van Nistelroy and Madrid will be willing to sell any if them if a serious offer arrived.
We sold them Kaka for a reasonable sum, when we had better offers for him. And Galliani and Perez have a good relatioship. If we don't get any of them its our management's fault and no one else's
Zed.D
Jul 5 2009, 02:49 PM
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AC Milan To Offer £20m Plus Mathieu Flamini For Emmanuel Adebayor - Report
The Milan hierarchy seem intent on chasing the Gunners striker...
Despite reports suggesting that Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor was set to reject a move to AC Milan, the Italian club still seem ready to make an offer for the player, according to The Mirror.
The Serie A club are now, according to the British tabloid, ready to offer £20 million in cash as well as defensive midfielder Mathieu Flamini in exchange for the Togolese striker.
The offer, if made, would no doubt interest Gunners boss Arsene Wenger, who is in desperate need of a battling central midfielder, and could welcome Frenchman Flamini back to the club.
The Gunners however, have reportedly tabled an offer for Fiorentina midfielder Felipe Melo, who impressed during Brazil's Confederations Cup triumph in South Africa.
The future of the Brazilian midfielder has been in the balance for a long time following his impressive displays for both club and country, and it is believed that Europe's major sides are trailing him, with Arsenal and Juventus reportedly the front runners.
Flamini meanwhile has found life hard since leaving the Emirates Stadium, struggling to establish himself in the Milan first team until the second half of the season, and only getting his opportunity when other players have been injured.
The 25-year-old might be interested in a move back to north London to work once again with the man who discovered him, and in turn, could be exactly the player Arsenal fans want at the club.

is this a F joke? £20m plus Flamini for Adebayor?!
QUOTE (xcube @ Jul 5 2009, 04:53 PM)

I had this Explanation why were doing this ... (No More Red Numbers) ~Silvio Berluscuni~ i think he's trying to reduce the loss amount and preparing everything to sell the team ... i know some people is not agreeing with me but lets face it ... When was Milan in loss 5 years back we didnt but a major superstar player except ronaldinho and most of them we got the on loan or at cheap price .... Berluscuni didnt pay alot and he was away from milan to be prime minister milan fan is angry now and the best way to show how mad they are the season tickets subscriptions is 400 till now ... its just my view and some may not agree with me
Interesting theory!
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 5 2009, 05:03 PM)

All their Dutch players need to leave imo. None of them will want to sit on the bench simple as that. And it would be a waste really.
I don't think
all of their Dutch players will leave.
han2503
Jul 5 2009, 03:31 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 5 2009, 01:49 PM)

I don't think all of their Dutch players will leave.
I think Sneijder could stay, but not the others... None of them will want to play second fiddle to the new signings, especially in a World Cup year
if any other winger comes in i am 100% sure robben will leave
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 5 2009, 02:49 PM)


is this a F joke? £20m plus Flamini for Adebayor?!
i think The Mirror is desperate to sell some papers. or they are run by Idiots.
Flamini, even though played less last season, is a great player. And i would play him ahead of Ambrosini any day.
I hope these are just rumors and nothing more.
kurtsimonw
Jul 5 2009, 06:53 PM
QUOTE (rip @ Jul 5 2009, 06:13 PM)

i think The Mirror is desperate to sell some papers. or they are run by Idiots.
A €20m Bid From AC Milan Will Secure Luis Fabiano From Sevilla - Report
The Brazilians' agent has made it clear how much it will take for Sevilla to consider selling their hitman...
A bid of around €20m will see Sevilla allow Luis Fabiano to enter into negotiations with AC Milan, according to reports from the Italian press.
Il Corriere dello Sport states that Jose Fuentes, the Brazilian’s representative, believes that if the Italian side re-assess their offer for the 28-year old, then Sevilla will be forced to accept it.
Goal.com understands that a €14m offer was rejected by the Rojiblancos earlier this week, but the striker remains the Rosseneri’s prime transfer target and Fuentes confirmed that Fabiano has made it clear that he wants permission to discuss terms over a potential move to Serie A.
“I think a bid of between €20m and €22m will see the clubs reach an agreement. The positions are not so distant. This is just the beginning of the negotiations,” said Fuentes.
Fabiano finished top scorer in the 2009 Confederations Cup, as his nation overcame the USA 3-2 in the final to lift the crown. In 2008, he finished runner up to Daniel Guiza for the Pichichi crown offered to the leading goalscorer in Spain.
Sevilla are desperate to cling onto their star, but Fuentes is hopeful a deal can be reached.
“It is true that Sevilla rejected the first proposal, but they have also indicated their willingness to negotiate,” he added.
Fabiano joined Sevilla from Portuguese side Porto in 2005, for a fee of €8m.
i guess he will be a milan player soon
mishie
Jul 5 2009, 08:53 PM
QUOTE
Milan hit Huntelaar obstacles Sunday 5 July, 2009
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Milan’s bid for Klaas Jan Huntelaar has hit problems, as it’s reported Real Madrid want £13m rather than a free loan.
Rossoneri transfer gurus Adriano Galliani and Ariedo Braida flew out to Spain this weekend for talks with President Florentino Perez.
They were set to return on Saturday evening, but according to Sky Sport Italia their flight back was postponed until Sunday.
The reason is a fundamental difference in approach over the Dutch international striker’s future.
Milan would like to take Huntelaar on a free transfer with an option to buy at the end of the season, whereas Real Madrid are holding out for a sale worth £13m.
This would put a spanner in the works for the Rossoneri’s other target, as they have made Sevilla an official bid for Brazilian hitman Luis Fabiano.
The player’s buy-out clause is 30m Euros, but the club could release Luis Fabiano for less as he personally requested the transfer to Milan.
so with the post above and this one...both could be arriving for €33m rather than €26m even this incompitent board can't mess this up
han2503
Jul 5 2009, 09:01 PM
13m is very cheap imo.
We should pounce on both players while we have the chance to get them for so little
i don't really get it who do we want exactly ?
han2503
Jul 5 2009, 09:11 PM
QUOTE (nuh @ Jul 5 2009, 09:07 PM)

i don't really get it who do we want exactly ?
Don't know really.
Personally I don't really believe that Galliani is actually interested in Huntelaar, he's only talked about Fabiano and Adebayour as targets.
This Huntelaar thing could be just media speculation and there is no truth to it
so it's most likely we will buy fabiano ?
TriniKing_CE
Jul 5 2009, 09:19 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 5 2009, 04:11 PM)

Don't know really.
Personally I don't really believe that Galliani is actually interested in Huntelaar, he's only talked about Fabiano and Adebayour as targets.
This Huntelaar thing could be just media speculation and there is no truth to it
Galliani has mentioned Huntelaar in his 'let's restart from Pato' atricle:
QUOTE
'Real? It's true that if Milan wanted, it would have priority on the players is excess. It's the result of the friendship with Florentino Perez. However, we are searching for a striker. Not Van Nistelrooy. At most Huntelaar, but for the time being we're on Dzeko'
http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=86895
mishie
Jul 5 2009, 09:20 PM
QUOTE
Napoli call Borriello home Sunday 5 July, 2009
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Marco Borriello could join Fabio Quagliarella at the San Paolo for an all-homegrown Neapolitan attack.
The Partenopei already snapped up local boy Quagliarella from Udinese this summer and there are now reports they are targeting another.
According to Telelombardia, Napoli have asked Milan if they can take Borriello on loan for the next season.
The only problem would be his £2.5m per season wages, which push through the salary cap at the San Paolo.
However, given the chance to begin again in his home town after a disastrous campaign with a series of injuries, Borriello could accept a big pay cut.
Borriello became hot property on the transfer market when scoring 19 goals for Genoa in 2007-08, but with continual fitness problems scored just once in six Serie A appearances for the Rossoneri.
Another panic buy from last season...not sad to see him go to be honest
TriniKing_CE
Jul 5 2009, 09:22 PM
Bear in mind Galliani was also the one who made the bold statement some time back that 'Borriello is better than Huntelaar'.
han2503
Jul 5 2009, 09:24 PM
QUOTE (mishie @ Jul 5 2009, 08:20 PM)

Another panic buy from last season...not sad to see him go to be honest
PLEASE TAKE HIM!!!
@ TriniKing
Thanks for that. I must have skipped that article because sometimes Galliani just grates on my mind and I just can't stand reading what he's saying...
I'm praying for Huntelaar, Sneijder and Fabiano.
I think getting those 3 and maybe a LB we'll be ready for next season...
han2503
Jul 5 2009, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jul 5 2009, 08:22 PM)

Bear in mind Galliani was also the one who made the bold statement some time back that 'Borriello is better than Huntelaar'.
Hmmm....
How can he possibly know that, does Boriello sit on the treatment table with better posture then Huntelaar does?
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