QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ May 21 2009, 10:37 PM) 
what do you guys think about berlu selling Kaka for potential election money 
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.Out of question IMO.
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ May 21 2009, 05:37 PM)
what do you guys think about berlu selling Kaka for potential election money .
.where'd you get this idea from anyway?
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Milan Supremo Silvio Berlusconi: I May Sell Kaka
The Rossoneri chief has allegedly confessed that Kaka is on his way out of San Siro.
The Kaka transfer saga is apparently about to start… again. After turning down a lucrative move to Premier League side Manchester City last January, the Brazilian star is now reportedly back in Real Madrid’s sights.
Former Bernabeu president Florentino Perez, who is standing to win re-election to the post next month, has reportedly made the 27-year-old his prime target for next season and the Spanish media claim Kaka has already agreed terms with the Merengues.
And Il Giorno newspaper today claims that Milan president and Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi hinted that a deal is in the pipeline during a formal dinner last night with candidates standing in the election for the European Parliament.
“This time I may have to sell Kaka for real,” he allegedly admitted.
With those words he is certain to send the rumour mill into overdrive, just like he did earlier this month when it was suggested that he blamed coach Carlo Ancelotti for Milan’s failure to win the Scudetto this season while talking with a group of Italian tourists in Egypt.
Vince Masiello
The Rossoneri chief has allegedly confessed that Kaka is on his way out of San Siro.
The Kaka transfer saga is apparently about to start… again. After turning down a lucrative move to Premier League side Manchester City last January, the Brazilian star is now reportedly back in Real Madrid’s sights.
Former Bernabeu president Florentino Perez, who is standing to win re-election to the post next month, has reportedly made the 27-year-old his prime target for next season and the Spanish media claim Kaka has already agreed terms with the Merengues.
And Il Giorno newspaper today claims that Milan president and Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi hinted that a deal is in the pipeline during a formal dinner last night with candidates standing in the election for the European Parliament.
“This time I may have to sell Kaka for real,” he allegedly admitted.
With those words he is certain to send the rumour mill into overdrive, just like he did earlier this month when it was suggested that he blamed coach Carlo Ancelotti for Milan’s failure to win the Scudetto this season while talking with a group of Italian tourists in Egypt.
Vince Masiello
Il Giorno is not a reliable source for Milan news. And allegedly admitting something doesn't mean jackdiddly as actually doing it.
ah, well put i didn't see that part :S
That's not a criticism on you, just the source.
Kaka denied that yesterday.
IMO if he is our coach for next season:
mvb: build a great youth system.. a lot of changes in the dressing room , speacially on the attack . and get dzeko.lets remember that he asnt won any trophies yet, but we saw how he managed to build a super strong dutch team on the euro.
rijkaard: he could make R10 finally work i think. but imo hes gonna bench seedorf no doubt. maybe a few changes
Ancelotti: i think that if we add a young tall forward , then we are back in business .id go for dzeko . sheva back to chealsea(would b great) . and if a good amount is offered for borriello then hes free to leave and call back paloschi
concerning the transfer market:
if someone (mancity) offers a good load for R10 he should go . with that money we could get dzeko and tevez(or a someone like him. fast and paecey). rule out adebayor there better players around. as for the defence id go for srna or zaccardo and santacroce (maybe and exchange with borriello. and a call back for paloschi) or Kjær ( if hes not gonna cost 15mil+). call back gourcuff and buy beckham. sheva back to chealse, theres no point of keeping him.
In conclusion:
As much as i love ancelotti, i have to admit that im tired of this milan and we need a change. if the transfer market goes as i plan, id go for MvB. well have a incredibly young team and a very strong group.
mvb: build a great youth system.. a lot of changes in the dressing room , speacially on the attack . and get dzeko.lets remember that he asnt won any trophies yet, but we saw how he managed to build a super strong dutch team on the euro.
rijkaard: he could make R10 finally work i think. but imo hes gonna bench seedorf no doubt. maybe a few changes
Ancelotti: i think that if we add a young tall forward , then we are back in business .id go for dzeko . sheva back to chealsea(would b great) . and if a good amount is offered for borriello then hes free to leave and call back paloschi
concerning the transfer market:
if someone (mancity) offers a good load for R10 he should go . with that money we could get dzeko and tevez(or a someone like him. fast and paecey). rule out adebayor there better players around. as for the defence id go for srna or zaccardo and santacroce (maybe and exchange with borriello. and a call back for paloschi) or Kjær ( if hes not gonna cost 15mil+). call back gourcuff and buy beckham. sheva back to chealse, theres no point of keeping him.
In conclusion:
As much as i love ancelotti, i have to admit that im tired of this milan and we need a change. if the transfer market goes as i plan, id go for MvB. well have a incredibly young team and a very strong group.
Just a provocation or trick to lure Milanfans not to vote for Silvio.
“I am very attached to Carlo, but this does not mean to say that if he goes, I will follow. I have a contract until 2013 with the club, not with the coach.” (kaka said this aswell)
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 22 2009, 11:06 AM)
Just a provocation or trick to lure Milanfans not to vote for Silvio.
What?
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ May 22 2009, 12:42 AM)
“I am very attached to Carlo, but this does not mean to say that if he goes, I will follow. I have a contract until 2013 with the club, not with the coach.” (kaka said this aswell)
Yup, if carlo goes i only see seedorf going.
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Milan's Ancelotti Will Take Seedorf To Chelsea If He Goes There - Jose Altafini
The Italo-Brazilian legend believes Seedorf is certain to leave Milan and follow Ancelotti to Chelsea if the coach signs for them this summer...
Milan legend Jose Altafini believes coach Carlo Ancelotti will take Clarence Seedorf with him to Chelsea if he joins the Blues this summer.
Speculation regarding the coach's future at the San Siro remains rife. Rossoneri vice-president Adriano Galliani revealed that he would announce the club's plans regarding the bench on Monday.
Ancelotti has been linked with the Chelsea post since last year, but neither club has made any official announcement. Although 'Carletto's' future remains unclear, Altafini, who enjoyed great success with Milan during his prime, is certain that Seedorf will follow his coach to west London if he does eventually join Chelsea.
"If Ancelotti goes to Chelsea, then he will take at least one player with him," Altafini told Sky Sport Italia.
"I think he will certainly take Seedorf with him to Chelsea because he is a player liked by many, including Ancelotti.
"In addition, if [Marco] Van Basten takes over at Milan, Seedorf doesn't get along with him, and so this could be another factor."
The coach has one year left on his current deal at San Siro, but he is being hotly tipped to take over from Guus Hiddink by English and Italian media reports.
Salvatore Landolina, Goal.com
The Italo-Brazilian legend believes Seedorf is certain to leave Milan and follow Ancelotti to Chelsea if the coach signs for them this summer...
Milan legend Jose Altafini believes coach Carlo Ancelotti will take Clarence Seedorf with him to Chelsea if he joins the Blues this summer.
Speculation regarding the coach's future at the San Siro remains rife. Rossoneri vice-president Adriano Galliani revealed that he would announce the club's plans regarding the bench on Monday.
Ancelotti has been linked with the Chelsea post since last year, but neither club has made any official announcement. Although 'Carletto's' future remains unclear, Altafini, who enjoyed great success with Milan during his prime, is certain that Seedorf will follow his coach to west London if he does eventually join Chelsea.
"If Ancelotti goes to Chelsea, then he will take at least one player with him," Altafini told Sky Sport Italia.
"I think he will certainly take Seedorf with him to Chelsea because he is a player liked by many, including Ancelotti.
"In addition, if [Marco] Van Basten takes over at Milan, Seedorf doesn't get along with him, and so this could be another factor."
The coach has one year left on his current deal at San Siro, but he is being hotly tipped to take over from Guus Hiddink by English and Italian media reports.
Salvatore Landolina, Goal.com
LOL, I just said that the day before and altafini comes out and says that lolss
Both you and Altafini are wrong though 
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 22 2009, 10:54 PM)
Both you and Altafini are wrong though
not yet were not. We'll see on monday if were wrong.
Now it really looks that carlo is leaving, berlusconi said that this is his last game on san siro too. So i hope for tasotti, leonardo nad galli to replace him.... I don't want to see van basten, he was a great player but he did nothing as coach.. Or leonardo and tasoti or bring us Rijkard! Without carlo yoan will be back for shure..
I was for Carlo staying for one last season, but after today's atrocity, I'm close to changing my mind.
Yea i wish its his last.....We mustn't lose against Fiorentina...we've gotten 1 point in a possible 9 pts...Talking about Gourcuff, he won the French player of the year today...
according to mediaset milan new era will start with leanardo
NO!!
What is wrong with these people? can't they just bring a proper coach instead of a rookie? are they trying to emulate Barca or what? this plan could fail miserably.
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Wow that's quite an accomplishment, considering that there are actually some very good players in the French league.
I think he will return because Carlo will be leaving.
What is wrong with these people? can't they just bring a proper coach instead of a rookie? are they trying to emulate Barca or what? this plan could fail miserably.
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Talking about Gourcuff, he won the French player of the year today...
Wow that's quite an accomplishment, considering that there are actually some very good players in the French league.
I think he will return because Carlo will be leaving.
we deservely need a new regime...we've suffered a lot...we need to win against Fiorentina though..I want us to get direct qualification into the champions league...
Yoan said that he want to stay in Bordeaux because of Blanc, that his view is the same like Yoan's , but he doesn't know that Carlo is leavinh and that with Leonardo the things will change, both of them deserves a chance and i think that this is what milan need, a shock , something fresh guided by Tasotti and Leonardo and i think this is awesome! Forza Leonardo and forza Yoan, come and shine in Milan!
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What is wrong with these people? can't they just bring a proper coach instead of a rookie? are they trying to emulate Barca or what? this plan could fail miserably.
Exactly. But, I'd say Leonardo, in contrary to MvB, would/could also bring some positive aspects -
- We have a large brazilian continguent, larger then any we had in the past (french, dutch,...); a respectable brazilian coach therefore, like it or not, is a reasonable if not logical solution. As there are limited brazilian coaches able to manage big european clubs. Meaning Leonardo, both familiar to Milan and respected in Brazil has space to jump in. Still, such a deal stays a risk. Milan traditionally had success with Italian coaches, and I allways hoped that at least that part will stay that way, but...
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 24 2009, 11:44 PM)
Exactly. But, I'd say Leonardo, in contrary to MvB, would/could also bring some positive aspects -
- We have a large brazilian continguent, larger then any we had in the past (french, dutch,...); a respectable brazilian coach therefore, like it or not, is a reasonable if not logical solution. As there are limited brazilian coaches able to manage big european clubs. Meaning Leonardo, both familiar to Milan and respected in Brazil has space to jump in. Still, such a deal stays a risk. Milan traditionally had success with Italian coaches, and I allways hoped that at least that part will stay that way, but...
- We have a large brazilian continguent, larger then any we had in the past (french, dutch,...); a respectable brazilian coach therefore, like it or not, is a reasonable if not logical solution. As there are limited brazilian coaches able to manage big european clubs. Meaning Leonardo, both familiar to Milan and respected in Brazil has space to jump in. Still, such a deal stays a risk. Milan traditionally had success with Italian coaches, and I allways hoped that at least that part will stay that way, but...
I agree, don't get me wrong I like the guy very much. but this is not what he should be doing now. he hasn't coached a team for a single game. it's highly risky.
I wouldn't have a problem if he were to be an assistant (for Rijkaard or Mvb) but head coach...?
QUOTE (KakaIlCapitano @ May 24 2009, 01:08 PM)
Yoan said that he want to stay in Bordeaux because of Blanc, that his view is the same like Yoan's , but he doesn't know that Carlo is leavinh and that with Leonardo the things will change, both of them deserves a chance and i think that this is what milan need, a shock , something fresh guided by Tasotti and Leonardo and i think this is awesome! Forza Leonardo and forza Yoan, come and shine in Milan!
Sorry, but he'd be an idiot to go from being hot stuff in France to God-knows-what over here. A new coach won't change that.
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 24 2009, 08:23 PM)
I agree, don't get me wrong I like the guy very much. but this is not what he should be doing now. he hasn't coached a team for a single game. it's highly risky.
I wouldn't have a problem if he were to be an assistant (for Rijkaard or Mvb) but head coach...?
I wouldn't have a problem if he were to be an assistant (for Rijkaard or Mvb) but head coach...?
look at barca what they did and now are on top of the world, why not totry? What have MvB did to be a Milan coach? He did nothing with any team he guided so id rather see leonardo try to prove himself with the team he is familiar than van basten for sure...
Pep had coached Barca's youth team a little before he took over at the first team. Leonardo hasn't! I've heard he doesn't even have a coaching license yet! I think he'd be better off as an assistant to a more experienced coach like Rijkaard.
Naah, he's a perfect agent for transfers, look what he did Kaka!
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 25 2009, 04:46 PM)
Naah, he's a perfect agent for transfers, look what he did Kaka!
I know. I've always thought he'd make a great transfer guru!
I'm saying if he wants to coach, it's better that he starts as an assistant not a head coach.
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 25 2009, 12:34 PM)
I know. I've always thought he'd make a great transfer guru!
I'm saying if he wants to coach, it's better that he starts as an assistant not a head coach.
I'm saying if he wants to coach, it's better that he starts as an assistant not a head coach.
thats a fair opinion but i think that he can do a great work in milan like a manager, he wil bring keirison for sure and many more things, i think that he will organize everything with the youth because after everything he is a scout and this is in his blood and i think that we definitely need someone to play the youngsters in this milan and i think that this is an opinion of every single milan fan.
QUOTE (KakaIlCapitano @ May 25 2009, 05:11 PM)
thats a fair opinion but i think that he can do a great work in milan like a manager, he wil bring keirison for sure and many more things, i think that he will organize everything with the youth because after everything he is a scout and this is in his blood and i think that we definitely need someone to play the youngsters in this milan and i think that this is an opinion of every single milan fan.
I agree with those but I will have my doubts over whether he can succeed.. I'd love him to.
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 25 2009, 02:00 PM)
I agree with those but I will have my doubts over whether he can succeed.. I'd love him to.
everyone will love it
Why must we chose i say we let Rijkaard coach with Leonardo as a assistant, he has to learn somehow, he will be around for the players and get some valuable experience which will come in handy when he becomes our long term coach
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ May 25 2009, 04:36 PM)
Why must we chose i say we let Rijkaard coach with Leonardo as a assistant, he has to learn somehow, he will be around for the players and get some valuable experience which will come in handy when he becomes our long term coach
If Rijkaard becomes coach he'll need an expierenced tactician as an assistant. In Barcelona he had an experienced staff around him, and so does Guardiola if I'm not mistaking. Rijkaard is still young as a coach, and let's face it, he's no Capello or Sacchi.
Leonardo with some experienced brains around him, might actually work out. First of all, he's a smart guy. Second he commands alot of respect in Milan, especially from the players. He's also a sympathetic person, and it helps to give us a facelift after Calciopoli and these latest things with Maldini. We have no idea if he's got the talent for coaching though, but I imagine the management would, and he himself would, as previously stated he's expremely intelligent.
QUOTE (KakaIlCapitano @ May 25 2009, 05:41 AM)
thats a fair opinion but i think that he can do a great work in milan like a manager, he wil bring keirison for sure
What makes you so sure of that? And what is the big deal about this Keirrison guy anyway?
QUOTE (MizNelson @ May 26 2009, 01:59 AM)
And what is the big deal about this Keirrison guy anyway?
He's Brazilian
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 25 2009, 02:32 PM)
He's Brazilian
How foolish of me.
Not too long ago everyone was fawning over Kerlon, who was supposedly this next Brazilian wonderkid. And he's done nothing but rot on the bench at Chievo.
QUOTE (MizNelson @ May 26 2009, 02:03 AM)
How foolish of me.
Do I need to say I'm with you on this?
QUOTE (MizNelson @ May 26 2009, 02:03 AM)
Not too long ago everyone was fawning over Kerlon, who was supposedly this next Brazilian wonderkid. And he's done nothing but rot on the bench at Chievo.
Not every young Brazilian talent turns out to be a Pato
Keirrison is alot different to Pato and Kerlon. He's more of a goal-poacher ala' Romario. He's good with both feet, decent shot, good finisher, not particularly strong or big, has a good technic but without being able to do Pato'ish runs. He has quite a goal-scoring record for Palmeires, that's why there's so much talk about him these days. Don't think he has anything on Dzeko though.
Well _ whats the difference between man united _ and ac milan _
they have 4 excellent strikers _ we have one explosive kid who cant do it all alone and a super sub inzaghi whos done his best _ thats it (Y)
as for the defence _ chelsea has john terry we have alessandro nesta
just need a few alex's vidic's etc and were sorted and no senderos doesnt count
1 Class Cb 1 Class Forward and yoaan gourcuff back _ its as simple as that
they have 4 excellent strikers _ we have one explosive kid who cant do it all alone and a super sub inzaghi whos done his best _ thats it (Y)
as for the defence _ chelsea has john terry we have alessandro nesta
just need a few alex's vidic's etc and were sorted and no senderos doesnt count
1 Class Cb 1 Class Forward and yoaan gourcuff back _ its as simple as that
^ i find it close minded to close the door on Senderos, people as critical as you were probably happy to see Gourcoff go before his "Ligue 1 joueur de la saison".
What has senderos done to be rated lower then Favalli/bonera?!?
He is the ONLY CB we have with offensive potential (with Thiaguninho) and shines when allowed to go upfield(a tactic carlo tried during alot of the "friendlies" with him that worked well. He has been very professional in his demeanure and has the "shut up and work" mentality you look for in a CB. I've seen him head away countless corners due to his good size and had the game of his life against chievo.
What has senderos done to be rated lower then Favalli/bonera?!?
He is the ONLY CB we have with offensive potential (with Thiaguninho) and shines when allowed to go upfield(a tactic carlo tried during alot of the "friendlies" with him that worked well. He has been very professional in his demeanure and has the "shut up and work" mentality you look for in a CB. I've seen him head away countless corners due to his good size and had the game of his life against chievo.
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 25 2009, 02:35 PM)
Do I need to say I'm with you on this?
Nope. I knew that.
QUOTE (Suhail 3 @ May 25 2009, 03:16 PM)
as for the defence _ chelsea has john terry we have alessandro nesta
1 Class Cb 1 Class Forward and yoaan gourcuff back _ its as simple as that
1 Class Cb 1 Class Forward and yoaan gourcuff back _ its as simple as that
The difference is that Terry hasn't missed the entire season due to injury. And Gourcuff isn't coming back.
I wouldn't call the shots on gourcuff quite yet. If we get a new coach we must remember that any player could be sold and any player could be bought.
So we could sell gourcuff or we could sell kaka/pirlo. We could sign adebayor or we could sign david silva.
What my point is that we are looking at the transfer market from carlo's perspective and what realistic market maneuvers would happen when he is the coach. But if he is not the coach, I think its pretty much open to anything.
If leonardo becomes our coach expect our signings to be heavy brazillian youth favored. Rijkaard will probably look to bring some of his barca favs here. Van basten might look to huntelaar.
Anything can happen so its too early to speculate without a garuanteed coach.
So we could sell gourcuff or we could sell kaka/pirlo. We could sign adebayor or we could sign david silva.
What my point is that we are looking at the transfer market from carlo's perspective and what realistic market maneuvers would happen when he is the coach. But if he is not the coach, I think its pretty much open to anything.
If leonardo becomes our coach expect our signings to be heavy brazillian youth favored. Rijkaard will probably look to bring some of his barca favs here. Van basten might look to huntelaar.
Anything can happen so its too early to speculate without a garuanteed coach.
I agree with Blue...
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Diego to juve official: 24.5 mil euroes.
Gomez to bayern official: 30 million euros.
We have apparantly bid 5 million euros for barry.
We are interested in hernanes of sao paolo.
Gomez to bayern official: 30 million euros.
We have apparantly bid 5 million euros for barry.
We are interested in hernanes of sao paolo.
Carlo out. Leonardo/Rijkaard/Mvb, somebody in.
Seedorf out. Gourcuff in.
A big striker in.
Two good defenders in.
And I think we'd challenge for something next season! of course we could use 1 deep lying midfielder because Pirlo is not producing magic anymore. sitting on bench a little could be good for him. a full back who can actually cross the ball is needed too. and don't tell me that's too many. this season we brought 11 players in while most thought it would not be more than 3/4.
Seedorf out. Gourcuff in.
A big striker in.
Two good defenders in.
And I think we'd challenge for something next season! of course we could use 1 deep lying midfielder because Pirlo is not producing magic anymore. sitting on bench a little could be good for him. a full back who can actually cross the ball is needed too. and don't tell me that's too many. this season we brought 11 players in while most thought it would not be more than 3/4.
QUOTE (dst @ May 26 2009, 11:00 PM)
I think there's more chance of Barry going to Spurs/Citeh than Milan, and I think there's 0% chance he'll go to Spurs or Citeh..
I think he may even stay another year, just to be certain of his starting place in the 2010 World Cup (if we make it), then he'll leave on a free next summer.
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