omahawi
Apr 20 2008, 01:09 AM
hell, i'd be happy with montolivo and aquilani. i would think i had just won the lottery if that were ever to happen. still though i don't hear enough about getting another good center back which scares me.
Jack Sparrow
Apr 20 2008, 06:36 AM
Cigarini and Aquilani...and I'd still keep Emerson. When fully fit..he's still decent. I don't wanna rip anything off Viola. It's like breaking an arm off the statue of David.
Rossoneri7
Apr 20 2008, 01:44 PM
Ronaldinho and Zambrotta are all but done!
Galliani's middleman in Spain (Bronzetti) has teh deal all but sealed up, it's just a matter of deciding how much.
fresh_prince7
Apr 20 2008, 02:54 PM
Source?
Rossoneri7
Apr 20 2008, 02:56 PM
QUOTE (fresh_prince7 @ Apr 20 2008, 04:54 PM)
Don Ceseare Maldini
Pre match studio on Jazeera sport
fresh_prince7
Apr 20 2008, 04:02 PM
Touche R7.
Handy souce.
whoarethepatriots
Apr 20 2008, 04:27 PM
Paloschi43 made a good point about the strikers. We need midfield and defensive backups much more desperately than strikers. Ronaldinho and Sheva should be ample and if Gila goes Borriello should cover his exit.
Points have been made about Montolivo and Aquilani, as much as i admire and want those players, it is difficult seeing Fiorentina/Roma letting them go to us, especially as we are divisional rivals
More realistic players we should be looking at are Dessena and Cigarini, Parma are not in a brilliant position at the moment, and god forbid (i seriously mean that) that they get relegated i can see them getting sold, and we have to make it a pirority to be first in the qeue when it happens. We already have good links with Parma (Bonera and Gila for example) and we need those players as depth
Bottom line is that attackers should not be a number one priority, we need to rebuild the foundations first
jefri91
Apr 20 2008, 05:55 PM
Italian side Udinese are also ready to offload striker Fabio Quagliarella for £15m. Tottenham are facing competition from AC and Inter Milan for the 25-year-old's signature. (News of the World)
fahad
Apr 20 2008, 06:05 PM
gallaini has said something abt R10 and zambrotta abt the barca demnad being quite high and we will have long negotations.......... dont know what the whole thing is as cannot understand itlian
jefri91
Apr 20 2008, 06:09 PM
paloschi43
Apr 20 2008, 06:26 PM
Almost all sources was sure about that we sealed a deal with Barcelona around 30m E for both Dinho and Zambrotta.
Quagliarella is good player but not Milan material.
Lell and Bastian Scweinsteiger are cheap options,Lell is tecniqually strong player,same goes for schweinsteiger as he can also play in many roles among left side back.both player would do well in Seria A,both of them's contract ends in 2009 so we have big chances for them if we really want them.
Lately we linked with Rafinha who cost us 10 m euros but his non-eu status could block this signing.
i want Milan to loan Paloschi to Empoli next year or other teams which could provide him regular football as he needs to play regular football so that improving himself.
fahad
Apr 20 2008, 06:34 PM
QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Apr 20 2008, 10:26 PM)
Almost all sources was sure about that we sealed a deal with Barcelona around 30m E for both Dinho and Zambrotta.
Quagliarella is good player but not Milan material.
Lell and Bastian Scweinsteiger are cheap options,Lell is tecniqually strong player,same goes for schweinsteiger as he can also play in many roles among left side back.both player would do well in Seria A,both of them's contract ends in 2009 so we have big chances for them if we really want them.
Lately we linked with Rafinha who cost us 10 m euros but his non-eu status could block this signing.
i want Milan to loan Paloschi to Empoli next year or other teams which could provide him regular football as he needs to play regular football so that improving himself.
seriously i tought gallaini was saying that there is a big difference between what milan are offering and what barca want????
Tennie
Apr 20 2008, 06:40 PM
I don't think that Bayern will let Schweinsteiger go. He's been subpar most of the season but with Klinsmann coming in next year...I'd be very surprised if he didn't stay. Lell, I don't really rate that highly.
I kind of like the Dida to Lazio in exchange for De Silvestri (and probably money) rumor. De Silvestri is good. I also like Santacroce, who's young, fast, and talented.
It'd sure be nice if we could steal Aquilani from Roma. (and, sorry, Jack, I still wish we could steal Montolivo from the Viola).
fahad
Apr 20 2008, 06:40 PM
Tennie
Apr 20 2008, 06:45 PM
That's more or less what he said in the article, fahad. But it's standard negotiating language. I don't think there's any cause to worry.
fahad
Apr 20 2008, 06:49 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 20 2008, 10:45 PM)
That's more or less what he said in the article, fahad. But it's standard negotiating language. I don't think there's any cause to worry.
thanks
MizNelson
Apr 20 2008, 07:45 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 20 2008, 09:40 AM)
I kind of like the Dida to Lazio in exchange for De Silvestri (and probably money) rumor.
Perhaps. Dida deserves better than being backup to F'n Kalac, who's sucked nuggets since the Arsenal loss. There are better teams out there than Nazio, though.
dst
Apr 20 2008, 08:04 PM
QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Apr 20 2008, 08:26 PM)
i want Milan to loan Paloschi to Empoli next year or other teams which could provide him regular football as he needs to play regular football so that improving himself.
I think he should stay. It seems that Gila will be gone so he'll be our new young poacher. Plus, Inzaghi is injury prone so he'll probably have more chances... it's good to have him stick with the group!
Any news about Di Gennaro? Any chance to see him at Empoli next season?
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Apr 20 2008, 09:45 PM)
Perhaps. Dida deserves better than being backup to F'n Kalac, who's sucked nuggets since the Arsenal loss. There are better teams out there than
Nazio, though.
Hee-hee!

You like Dida the man or Dida the player more?
And renovate your site already!
whoarethepatriots
Apr 20 2008, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 20 2008, 05:40 PM)
I don't think that Bayern will let Schweinsteiger go. He's been subpar most of the season but with Klinsmann coming in next year...I'd be very surprised if he didn't stay. Lell, I don't really rate that highly.
I kind of like the Dida to Lazio in exchange for De Silvestri (and probably money) rumor. De Silvestri is good. I also like Santacroce, who's young, fast, and talented.It'd sure be nice if we could steal Aquilani from Roma. (and, sorry, Jack, I still wish we could steal Montolivo from the Viola).
Yeah, Dida in exchange for De Silverstre would be very good. Santacroce has really impressed me, but i am not sure if Napoli would be willing to let him go
Il Capitano
Apr 20 2008, 08:46 PM
Kaká confirms that Rino might leave us in the summer.
He said it in a interview with mediaset after the reggina game.
MizNelson
Apr 20 2008, 08:54 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 20 2008, 11:04 AM)
Hee-hee!

You like Dida the man or Dida the player more?
The man. Definitely the man.

Tennie's woobie has vandalized my homepage, so it may take a little longer.
Tennie
Apr 20 2008, 09:00 PM
Here's what Kaka said: In uscita ci sarebbe Rino Gattuso, ma Kakà cerca di trattenerlo: "Possono succedere tante cose in questo finale di stagione, in questo mercato. Ci sono tanti motivi per lui per rimanere in questo Milan"
[A lot of things can happen at the end of the seasin on this market. there are a lot of reasons for him to remain at Milan.]
Galliani was interviewed before the match and said flat out that Gattuso's not leaving.
We have yet to hear from Rino himself.
(The woobie denies all involvement with any vandalism. His attempts at courtship are just...enthusiastic, that's all!

)
dst
Apr 20 2008, 09:05 PM
QUOTE (Il Capitano @ Apr 20 2008, 10:46 PM)
Kaká confirms that Rino might leave us in the summer.
He said it in a interview with mediaset after the reggina game.

...

But why? He want a new adventure or something? I don't want him to go... the Curva rooted for him very passionately today! I hope he stays...
acid911
Apr 20 2008, 09:08 PM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Apr 20 2008, 11:45 PM)
Perhaps. Dida deserves better than being backup to F'n Kalac, who's sucked nuggets since the Arsenal loss. There are better teams out there than Nazio, though.
Actually Kalac has been into nuggets (and all that sorts of stuff) well before the Arsenal game at San Siro. He was very lucky not to concede at Emirates, and his form around that time was highly suspicious. Before that however he was very solid, and maybe for a couple of weeks the best player in Serie A even, what with all the magic saves he made. His trance has ended, sadly, but he's still between the posts. And I have every reason to believe he will be till our last match this season.

QUOTE (dst @ Apr 21 2008, 12:04 AM)
Hee-hee! You like Dida the man or Dida the player more?
Both, please. But even I can't deny that both the player and club have seen happier times together. I guess it's down to his age too, he's getting in on the wrong side of 30s, so the reflexes are bound to be slower. But that's no reason to have him sidelined without any explanation whatsoever. Manchester 2003 seems such a long time ago!
Dida Vs Buffon
MizNelson
Apr 20 2008, 09:08 PM
As much as I love Kaka for his magic on the pitch, he really needs to put a sock in it when it comes to interviews.
paloschi43
Apr 20 2008, 09:34 PM
Probably next year Milan will play with 1 striker and however Pato,Shevchenko,inzaghi and new central powerful striker and Paloschi,in addition Paloschi needs to play regular football in a team like Empoli,Siena and Parma who could provide him +30 games a season.
i really dont know where Di Gennaro could end up next year but Empoli would be great place for him,he is still 19 and can make his boom and return to Milan.maybe he can return to Milan to replace Gourcuff.
Regarding Dida,if Carlo doesnt play Dida even if Kalac makes stupid mistakes since Arsenal game,it seems Milan doesnt think Dida in the squad next year.
Kalac might be a good Gk but he is not World class and he proved it since his first game until the last game many times.
acid911
Apr 20 2008, 10:02 PM
QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Apr 21 2008, 01:34 AM)
Regarding Dida,if Carlo doesnt play Dida even if Kalac makes stupid mistakes since Arsenal game,it seems Milan doesnt think Dida in the squad next year.
Kalac might be a good Gk but he is not World class and he proved it since his first game until the last game many times.
Sadly, this very much seems to be the case.
morgoth
Apr 20 2008, 10:09 PM
QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Apr 20 2008, 09:34 PM)
Probably next year Milan will play with 1 striker and however Pato,Shevchenko,inzaghi and new central powerful striker and Paloschi,in addition Paloschi needs to play regular football in a team like Empoli,Siena and Parma who could provide him +30 games a season.
I don't agree with you, with 4 strikers available (not to mention R99) we wont play only one, especially if Sheva comes back (he'll not come for the bench). The thing that I can't figure out is how they're planing to play with two striker, Kaka and R10? That would be suicidal in my opinion!
paloschi43
Apr 20 2008, 10:26 PM
We can only play with 2 striker only if Kaka plays RM and Ronaldinho as LM but Kaka underperforms there and same goes for Dinho.
Sheva had better to go to Dynamo Kiev or smaller clubs if he wants regular football,he has no first 11 chance if you ask me;also considering new central powerfull striker as well.
fahad
Apr 20 2008, 10:43 PM
QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Apr 21 2008, 02:26 AM)
We can only play with 2 striker only if Kaka plays RM and Ronaldinho as LM but Kaka underperforms there and same goes for Dinho.
Sheva had better to go to Dynamo Kiev or smaller clubs if he wants regular football,he has no first 11 chance if you ask me;also
considering new central powerfull striker as well.most likely that is not gonna happen bcoz sheva is certain to come
Bluesummers
Apr 20 2008, 11:29 PM
QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Apr 20 2008, 03:26 PM)
We can only play with 2 striker only if Kaka plays RM and Ronaldinho as LM but Kaka underperforms there and same goes for Dinho.
Sheva had better to go to Dynamo Kiev or smaller clubs if he wants regular football,he has no first 11 chance if you ask me;also considering new central powerfull striker as well.
agreed. I doubt we'll be playin two forewards next year. Kaka will be given free role with r10 support for pato/mystery striker and kaka. Paloschi should be loaned.
MizNelson
Apr 21 2008, 12:01 AM
QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Apr 20 2008, 12:34 PM)
Regarding Dida,if Carlo doesnt play Dida even if Kalac makes stupid mistakes since Arsenal game,it seems Milan doesnt think Dida in the squad next year.
Kalac might be a good Gk but he is not World class and he proved it since his first game until the last game many times.
If Kalac is still on the roster and Dida is not next season, something is
very wrong with management.
From being one of the heroes of Athens last year to this. Unbelievable.
acid911
Apr 21 2008, 12:24 AM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Apr 21 2008, 04:01 AM)
If Kalac is still on the roster and Dida is not next season,
something is very wrong with management.From being one of the heroes of Athens last year to this. Unbelievable.
Well, judging by the past history, I wouldn't be surprised if they did. While I'm very much open to the idea of getting a young, quality keeper, the best bet would be to let him groom under Dida for a season, and then let him take his place. Get someone established, someone around 25 years of age, give or take. But keeping Kalac and throwing out the Brazilian, that's just, um ...
dst
Apr 21 2008, 12:31 AM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Apr 21 2008, 02:01 AM)
If Kalac is still on the roster and Dida is not next season, something is
very wrong with management.
I disagree. Kalac is a good back-up. But Dida is not a back-up so if he's not first-choice anymore then he'll be let go while someone else will be brought on... that said, I don't think it's unlikely to see this happen.
acid911
Apr 21 2008, 12:59 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 21 2008, 04:31 AM)
I disagree. Kalac is a good back-up. But Dida is not a back-up so if he's not first-choice anymore then he'll be let go while someone else will be brought on... that said, I don't think it's unlikely to see this happen.
A lot of this scenario depends on what kind of keeper we bring, (if any at all). Obviously, if we get a top name, it might not work out. On the other hand, if we get someone with just enough skills and experience, someone young and groom him to be our keeper for the next 5-10 seasons, then I can't see Dida leaving for another year or two. Toldo played backup, why can't Dida?
I can't decide what's worse: seeing Dida leave, of Kalac staying as second-choice. The guy can be inconsistent sometimes. Very inconsistent. Scary, even.
Bluesummers
Apr 21 2008, 02:25 AM
heres how the scenario goes: If dida wants to play back up he is more than welcome to with kalac leaving or 3rd string. If he doesnt want to play the bench role then he should stfu and gtfo. He was a great keeper and is still a good keeper. However, we dont need good keepers, we need world class keepers in the ranks of buffon. Someone who at least gets us 15 points a season like cech does or at least 30 points a season like buffon does.
right now: our best options are
frey 28 -fiorentina- cost: 20 million euro + (french)
Coupet 33- Lyon- 10-15 million euro (french)
Gomez 27- PSV- 10-15 million euro (brazillian)
Ochoa 22- AMERICA- 25 million euro+ (mexican)
Akinfeev 22 CSKA moscow= 40 million + (russian)
Amelia- 26- livorno- 15-20 million (italian)
Habitant
Apr 21 2008, 02:36 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 21 2008, 01:25 AM)
heres how the scenario goes: If dida wants to play back up he is more than welcome to with kalac leaving or 3rd string. If he doesnt want to play the bench role then he should stfu and gtfo. He was a great keeper and is still a good keeper. However, we dont need good keepers, we need world class keepers in the ranks of buffon. Someone who at least gets us 15 points a season like cech does or at least 30 points a season like buffon does.
right now: our best options are
frey 28 -fiorentina- cost: 20 million euro + (french)
Coupet 33- Lyon- 10-15 million euro (french)
Gomez 27- PSV- 10-15 million euro (brazillian)
Ochoa 22- AMERICA- 25 million euro+ (mexican)
Akinfeev 22 CSKA moscow= 40 million + (russian)
Amelia- 26- livorno- 15-20 million (italian)coupet isnt worth more than 10m, the guy is really old.
Bluesummers
Apr 21 2008, 02:39 AM
QUOTE (Habitant @ Apr 20 2008, 07:36 PM)
coupet isnt worth more than 10m, the guy is really old.
yeah but thats his price tag
Lyon won't take less unless we offer some sort of trade deal, such as dida or gilardino.
MizNelson
Apr 21 2008, 03:11 AM
Sorry, but getting Coupet would defeat the purpose of shopping for a new keeper.
Bluesummers
Apr 21 2008, 03:16 AM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Apr 20 2008, 08:11 PM)
Sorry, but getting Coupet would defeat the purpose of shopping for a new keeper.
really? how so...
Habitant
Apr 21 2008, 03:27 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 21 2008, 01:39 AM)
yeah but thats his price tag
Lyon won't take less unless we offer some sort of trade deal, such as dida or gilardino.
? where did hear that?
Bluesummers
Apr 21 2008, 03:28 AM
QUOTE (Habitant @ Apr 20 2008, 08:27 PM)
a few weeks back. In a report it said he wanted out and is looking for a new club etc blah blah blah and he would cost around 10 mil.
Habitant
Apr 21 2008, 03:32 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 21 2008, 02:16 AM)
he's just as old as dida, we need sumone for the future
Bluesummers
Apr 21 2008, 03:33 AM
QUOTE (Habitant @ Apr 20 2008, 08:32 PM)
he's just as old as dida, we need sumone for the future
but hes good still. Dida would still be kept for 2 more seasons if he was good. Look at kahn, 38 and still plays godlike
KillerMax
Apr 21 2008, 03:42 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 20 2008, 08:33 PM)
Look at kahn, 38 and still plays godlike
Kahn is not even a shadow of his former self... Age matters. We should look to sign someone preferably in the 28-32 age range.
Bluesummers
Apr 21 2008, 03:44 AM
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Apr 20 2008, 08:42 PM)
Kahn is not even a shadow of his former self... Age matters. We should look to sign someone preferably in the 28-32 age range.
I agree with you there. But goalkeepers arent like regular players. Age doesnt affect their peformance by as great of a magnitude as it does to the rest of the squad. My personal choice would be frey.
KillerMax
Apr 21 2008, 03:49 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 20 2008, 08:44 PM)
I agree with you there. But goalkeepers arent like regular players. Age doesnt affect their peformance by as great of a magnitude as it does to the rest of the squad. My personal choice would be frey.
Yep. But anything 35+(that includes women too) is give or take, pretty much only a short fix.
Bluesummers
Apr 21 2008, 03:50 AM
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Apr 20 2008, 08:49 PM)
Yep. But anything 35+(that includes women too) is give or take, pretty much only a short fix.
yeah i guess so eh. but do you see our board spendin over 20 for a keeper? in the end they might just say kalac is good enough.
KillerMax
Apr 21 2008, 03:55 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 20 2008, 08:50 PM)
yeah i guess so eh. but do you see our board spendin over 20 for a keeper? in the end they might just say kalac is good enough.
I think they're gonna bring back Abbiatti(Ancelotti was talking about him just recently and how he would welcome him and such) and also keep hold of Dida and Kalac. It's pretty obvious Don Silvio has made up his mind on where to spend his money and the GK positions has not been mentioned yet. World class CB, Ronaldinho, Sheva, pure CF.
Bluesummers
Apr 21 2008, 04:00 AM
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Apr 20 2008, 08:55 PM)
I think they're gonna bring back Abbiatti(Ancelotti was talking about him just recently and how he would welcome him and such) and also keep hold of Dida and Kalac. It's pretty obvious Don Silvio has made up his mind on where to spend his money and the GK positions has not been mentioned yet. World class CB, Ronaldinho, Sheva, pure CF.
who knows if hes bs or not. ronaldinho might not even come sigh....
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