No one called him a striker ... He is not a striker.

But, if you noticed, Milan's website (though not the best when compared to other top team's websites) has four classifications, Gkeeper, Defender, Midfielder, and Forward ... The forward would mean the AM and Strikers, in their weird world that would make sense. And yes, I don't see any characteristics of a forward in Seedorf, but the man plays brilliantly when placed as an AM.


Kaka' is no striker, yes, is he a forward ?? Well, the player is so versatile, you just cant place him in a rigid role and say that is all he is. He won several individual and club awards, just by being played closer to goal. He is no striker, but he is one hell of a forward.



How would I expect Carlo to play him next season ... further away from goal .. Not because he isn't good there, but because Ronaldinho would need space to play too, and bringing him closer to the goal makes it a very dangerous set up.



EDIT How do you think Andry is taking this right now ?

It's not about me saying forward or striker, yes they are different but to me that's saying for example Pato is a forward, Pippo and Boriello and strikers.

But Kaka and Dinho are midfielders that CAN play the role of a forward. Before Sheva left Kaka was never classed as a forward neither was Rui even when Carlo played the xmas tree formation both were still listed as midfielders and Galliani still called them that.

I know we can't put them in a box and say that this is what they are and that means that they have to fit into that exact criteria by playing that, for example Pirlo is a player that plays in defensive midfielder role but that doesn't make him one, even though some call him that I know there 2 situations are different but that's the closest thing I could think of.

And it's not just Seedorf being classed as a 'forward' it's Zambrotta being entered as a midfielder and Antonelli as a defender

Antonini played very well as a left back for Empoli last season ...

I really do get you han ... Kaka' is not a striker nor a forward. But he isn't a midfielder either. If you want to balance it out, you'd say he was an attacking midfielder 50% and a forward 50% ... Now the discussion is about whether it is right to classify him as a forward on the official site: that is something we can go round and round and round, and still nothing would change.

You do seem p1ssed .... Man don't let it get to you .. No matter what the site says, these are the players, and they will play under what 'Carlo' classifies them as ..

I'm not p!ssed at all, it's just the fact that we don't need to add Kaka and Seedorf to the forwards list anymore, we don't just have Pippo and Gila anymore as strikers so Galiani does not need to convince anyone. R10 and Kaka can be added as midfielders, no one will mind because we only have 3 forwards/strikers since everyone knows that both R10 and Kaka con notch up goals as well as any striker around. My point is that it's unnecessary to put them there now that Milan have bought new players. Plus we could still have Paloschi who I think we should keep. Pippo will most likely get some injury that will keep him out for most of the season so that would only leave us with Boriello as an in box striker, Paloschi has proved that he could score goals so why not keep his as a 4th option?

And Antonelli is a mdfielder that can play at LB, sort of like Janku and Sergio but he's more of a midfielder rather then a defender

I think Paloschi should be loaned out for better playing time..I think Abate and Pato can learn from Ronaldinho and Kaka..Abate and Pato are really good..I really don't wish that they should loan Abate....Abate is kind of a young C.ronaldo..They're really typical...Instead they should sell Brocchi..Looking at Milan's midfield, he's really not needed at all..He's the least needed of the defensive midfielders...

Agree with everything you said. Except Paloschi. I'd have preferred him to be a one-man club if possible. He's got everything there is to show that he could be the next guy to sell his soul to Milan.

Well, our transfer window is apparenly over now and it's definitly been better than the last 3/4.

Zambrotta: Would have been a 4/5 star transfer a few years back, but he a terrible time at Barca and was possibly even worse at the Euro's. But is still a useful player no doubt, the price may have been a bit high for his age/form, but that's not that far off. ***

Flamini: Best transfer of the season. Had a great season at Arsenal, a very hard working box-to-box player, should be starting in front of Rino next season, but we all know that won't happen. ****

Ronaldinho: Like Zambrotta, a few years ago would have been the best transfer possible, but been very, very poor as of late. The price wasn't the greatest, but could turn out a bargain if he regains his form on a few years back. Took way too long to finalise though, nearly 2 years! **1/2

Abbiati: I don't like to consider him a transfer, especially when Milan also claim to his "8 years of loyalty" but he's an upgrade on what we had last season. He is a decent keeper, but there are far, far better out there if Milan were willing yo pay the kind of money they need to be paying. **1/2

Borriello: Yet another Milan player that we've bought back. He could turn out great value for money.. but he could also turn out a flop. If he replicates anything near the form he had in the first half of last season, that can only be good for Milan. He's not very old and didn't cost too much either. ***1/2

EDIT: This deserved mentioning... I now realise you gave him the same rating as Abbiati... OMG Kurt, harsh!

I can only go on what they've done lately. And in recent times Abbiati has been no worse than R10.

Then again, on pure talent, a R10 five minutes from his death is better than Abbiati any given Sunday? He deserves less than two stars based on his performances in the last season or two, but on the whole it's a solid three stars. I mean if we get him back to be close his best, we've got two of the absolute best players in the world in the same team. Based on this, we've made the transfer of the season, I might add. No other club has matched us as of yet, and no other might this transfer window.

I do agree with what you're saying. But I wasn't just rating R10 the player, but the whole transfer. Considering only 2 teams were really in for him, we made a bif of a meal out of it, that combined with a price of £15m+ and his poor performances of late.. I just couldn't give it 3*s or more.

Now Flamini, awesome signing.

I doubt it. but his departure wouldn't be the greatest loss for us really...

But with Seedorf and Dinho we finally have a chance to see a motivated Clarence again and we have depth in our midfield, the offensive part. That's very important..

I don't expect a stable/consistent mid-field formation till about 7 or 8 games into the season.

Neither do I. Nor a stable defense.

The defence hasn't been stable for the last 2 years. If Paolo is feeling up to it he should get the start before Kala in the center next to Nesta. You have to admit that our main problem has been Kaladze and his mistakes that cost us goals, Nesta can't keep putting in the work of 2 players back there. If not Maldini I would prefer Bonera last season he was great in the RB position and the one before that he saved us countless times when he was playing a lot because of Nesta's shoulder injury

I hope bonera gets the start, he impressed me alot.. and what do u think of this formation.. kinda wild but it could work hahah.


------------------------------------------------Dida(1 more chance)-------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------Zambro--------------Nesta----------Maldini/Bonera---------------Janko-------------------------------------
---------------------------------------Flamini/Rino---------------Pirlo----------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------R10---------------------Kaka'------------------Pato/Seedorf----------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------Pippo--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I hope bonera gets the start, he impressed me alot.. and what do u think of this formation.. kinda wild but it could work hahah.


------------------------------------------------Dida(1 more chance)-------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------Zambro--------------Nesta----------Maldini/Bonera---------------Janko-------------------------------------
---------------------------------------Flamini/Rino---------------Pirlo----------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------R10---------------------Kaka'------------------Pato/Seedorf----------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------Pippo--------------------------------------------------------------------------

We're just going to go through what we did last summer. And whoever this person is I always thought that Kaka's father is his agent.

If Kaka were to ever leave he would go to Real not Chelsea, he's said a million times that the Spanish league is the one that he would think of going to but never mentioned the preier league, I think Sheva's situation has been lesson enough for him even going as far as mentioning Sheva's situation as a reason for him to think really hard about a transfer because he knows what might happen to him.

In the end Kaka will be here next season and the one after that he's just signed a contract and until I here it coming straight out of his mouth that he wants to leave (like Sheva did) I won't believe anythin that comes from the media. This has come from the Guardian an English tabloid, they've been linking players with Chelsea left, right and center and making it seem like players want to go their because of course the English league is the best in the world It's just them being arrogant pr!cks

it is a broadsheet and it is one of the best newpaper here in england

^
I think han meant Guardian is a tabloid when it comes to football news...

i think kaka will come back to milan today or in the next few days he could speak yet again to shut chelsea up

Kaka resists £80m Chelsea bid


Despite good friend Ronaldinho’s arrival, the media in Spain and England insist Milan would be willing to hand Kaka to Chelsea for a record £80m.

Rumours of the reigning European and World Player of the Year’s departure have been circulating for several years, but the Rossoneri and the Brazilian have always shrugged off the speculation from Real Madrid and Chelsea.

According to The Guardian and Spanish newspaper Sport, Milan are negotiating over a new £80m offer to solve their financial problems.

"Real Madrid offered 90m Euros last summer and Milan did not even think about the bid," Kaka's personal assistant Diogo Kotscho was quoted as saying in Globoesporte.

"This time is different. This is the first time we feel that a deal will definitely happen. Because of the (financial) situation Milan are in at the moment, the deal is good for all parties involved.

"The move would represent a significant increase in Kaka's salary, on top of the 10 per cent transfer fee that goes straight to the player anyway - some 15m Euros.

“Chelsea are the club to be at right now. They are building a team to win everything."

Milan general manager Adriano Galliani confirmed the club had been hit hard financially by the failure to qualify for the Champions League and was running at a loss.

He also noted the Rossoneri could wipe out their debts in one fell swoop by selling Kaka.

“We do not have a transfer kitty stashed away here. Despite failing to qualify for the Champions League, the club is strengthening the squad and increasing the wages. This means we’ll be £35m in the red without President Silvio Berlusconi’s help.

“The fans should be happy, as all we’d need to do in order to wipe out or debts is sell Kaka and Andrea Pirlo. Instead they won’t move, so if that’s not a show of love for this side, I don’t know what is.

“I can confirm that Chelsea declared their interest in Kaka. But I told them that Milan were not interested in selling him and I stopped everything before they could make any offer. So, I don’t know whether they would have offered £80m.”

The financial crisis at the club has been somewhat tempered by the ‘Ronaldinho effect.’ Although the player cost £18m, in the space of two days he has already sold an extra 10,000 season tickets.

When he decides which number to pick for the squad, shirt sales will also go through the roof, not to mention new sponsorship and overseas sales revenue.

According to Sport, the reason for Kaka’s potential transfer demand is ‘jealousy’ at the flurry of media activity surrounding new signing Ronaldinho.

However, it was Kaka who proved instrumental in bringing the Barcelona star to San Siro by urging him – both in public and private – to join him at Milan.

It is also unlikely Kaka would be eager for a move to Chelsea considering his good friendship with Andriy Shevchenko, who has made his regret at making that £30m switch abundantly clear.

channel4.com

And here's the official communication:

"KAKÁ IS UNSELLABLE"
7/19/2008

MILAN - In response to the declarations published today on English daily "The Guardian", Milan communications director Vittorio Mentana has reiterated that "Kaká is absolutely not for sale."

What a crock ... Now the English press claims that Kaka' wants Chelsea. Yeah, nice try .... Try doing something more creative, something other than what Spain's Marca did