Gosh. There's all kinds of stuff in the media today related to Milan and transfers. The sources are the usual 3 sports papers (Gazzetta, Corriere, and Tuttosport), Controcampo, etc.

Here's what's being said:

* Valencia is after Seedorf, who's not happy about Ronaldinho's pending arrival
* Pirlo and Gattuso aren't happy about the wage issue if Ronaldinho comes and want more pay or they'll leave
* Bayern and several English teams are after Gattuso
* Inter are asking Genoa about buying their half of Borriello as a bargaining chip in the Ronaldinho sweepstakes; Milan are asking Cagliari about their half of Acquafresca
* Van Basten (on holiday in Como) stating that Ronaldinho isn't what Milan needs. He thinks Milan needs a group of 23-24 year old talents


So....silly season is officially upon us.

Don't dismiss the news about Gattuso leaving that easily. According to the gazzetta Gattuso and pirlo wan'ts better wages. We might not be able to offer Gattuso what he wants and he hasn't been that great this season to demand a raise.

wow...

and now there have updated stuff abt flamini that he was our player if we had UCL but as we are fighting for 4th but yesterday there was again meeting and we could sign him even if there is UEFA cup

LMAO

Well I think the wage fight...is an issue raised, coz those reporters have been reading my posts in the forum.

Not exactly related, but Inter are considering a "cheeky" bid for Borriello, and they plan on getting him by handing full ownership of Aquafresca over to them

best thing to do is just ignore all this bs till galliani comes out and gives us the real and "galliani style" bs. Then we'll know if we should even look at these issues or not.

We only want the hard shite!

exactly

Two thoughts:
Ben Arfa. Can he play at LB?

Walcott. It seems that he's not enjoying life at Arsenal. I think he'd be a big hit in Serie A. But I doubt he'll leave England now.

From Goal.com:


I don't believe in this. I doubt Madrid will let go of Diarra. They just can't be that stupid! Then again, they've surprised me quite a few times in the past...

It'd be a bad move for Gattuso too. Their fans do not appreciate players of his kind... they only care about the "how it's done", not what is really done. And he wouldn't sell shirts either so... I doubt Real are interested in him...

And last but not least, he's going nowhere!!



Mexes is great but (even if rarely) he puts on some real bad displays... I'd love to see either Juan or him in Milan though.

mexes should be one of our top priorities this summer.

i hope we don't forget to buy a Goalkeeper aswell as all these star players

Frey was really impressive against Inter. IF he's always like this, then he definitely qualifies to become Milan's new #1.

I wouldn't mind if we got Villa and Silva in exchange, that would be a great deal so it wont happen



No he can't, plus he's a very selfish kind of player, I don't rate/like him!



Dn't worry, Copolla's loan ends this year

1. Ben Arfa..hmmh, certainly not. He's not suitable for Milan and can't play the LB. He doesn't have the qualities to do that job. But yes, the LB position is a real trouble. Not many good players/big names appear. These days, when Maldini's career is ending, Kaladze allways plays CB, Janku and Sergio are allways injured and Favalli isn't capable of putting two good appearances together I'd welcome even Chamot back..

2. Good idea. Course you know how it would start - first couple of matches we seen him score, then we see him got broken against guys like Matrix or Carrozzieri..

and
No way! Seedorf's here for ever...Turtle power!


Coppola and Abbiati. But we should sell all three (Cop's, Chris and Story) and bring a decent one...not another Elefteropoulos

After all these years, I've never quite learned to spell Elefteropoulos. He must have given his parents quite a hard time when he was a kid, that's why they named him such, ha? By the same token, who are these Cop, Chris, and Story dudes, to be exact?

Cop = Coppola
Chris = Abbiati
Story = Storari

Can Milan lab clone one keeper from the three mentioned above?

Actually, it should be..Eleftheropoulos? Wouldn't be that smth like Freimann in German, or Freeman in English? (Croatian would be...Slobodanovic)

Gotcha, thanks for the quick reply, Fillipo! I had a sinking feeling you meant Story = Dida, what with him being in all those news stories this season.

Actually... no. His name in English would be Freedick... 'poulos'=... He is a big joke because of a big "exodus" he made in a CL game with Olympiacos! He kept on going and the wind kept on pushing the ball away from him until someone from the opposition headed it in! Anyway... he's bad cause he can make some super saves but he can also concede the most ridiculous goals.

Braida & Co sure got talent in finding these crappy keepers.

Sounds like Kalac...

Freedick...
The German version sounds even better then,..

Yeah, that would be the logical move, but we're talking about Milan here so I really wont be surprised if we bring him/them back. By the way, Abbiatti said he has settled in Spain and since Milan load him out in the past 3 years (not sure) he wants to stay there, so I wont count on him!

Personally, I wouldn't want Abbiati back anyway. He's had some pretty bitter things to say about Milan in the past. If he likes the tapas bars in Madrid, let him stay and earn a few euro from the deal.

You mean you prefer Kalac or Dida (or what he has become) to Abbiatti?
If it was up to me, I wont think twice about it!

Yes, in the case of Dida anyway.

Abbiati revealed his zebra colors when he was loaned to Juve, which included posing for pictures with the Juve ultras.

some spainsh paper is saying that Milan are not only looking for zambrotta and R10 but are also intersted in deco and marquez

Deco yes...Marquez no.

So for 50 mill: Deco, R20, Zambrotta?

Sounds good.

But I would do something like this...

35 mill: R20+Zambrotta

And then the that I'am, I'd clean out Parma,

Dessena, Cigarini and Paponi. More italians for us please.

Viva Berlusconi.

The article about Deco + Marquez comes from As - which is about as reliable as The Sun in England. So...not too believable.

There's apparently a bidding war between Milan and Juve for Arsenal's Flamini.

Also of note but not specifically related to Milan is the report that Chelsea are interested in Inter's Mario Balotelli.

which we are to lose bcoz of 4th place

says who !?

i read a article that he was virtually a milan player but after this 4th place saga milan have lost him to juve bcoz he wants UCL it was on milan news
http://milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=951

Milan Want Borriello Back – Genoa
Genoa president Enrico Preziosi has admitted that Milan “really want” to re-sign Marco Borriello, while he rules out the chance of a transfer to Inter.



Borriello signed for Genoa from Milan last summer in a co-ownership deal, and he has been an absolute revelation.

The 25-year-old scored his 19th goal of the season against Torino at the weekend, which saw him extend his lead at the top of the Serie A scorer’s charts.

This brilliant form has seen a number of Italian clubs linked with a summer transfer bid, including Inter Milan.

However Genoa President Enrico Preziosi has made it clear that Borriello will either stay at the Stadio Ferraris, or he will return to Milan.

"Borriello will not go to another Italian team,” said Preziosi.

“He will either stay with Genoa or return to Milan, because the Rossoneri really want him.

"Beyond his girlfriend, Borriello loves Genoa as we're the club that relaunched his career."

Borriello had only scored 11 goals in six Serie A seasons prior to this current campaign, however his explosion onto the scene is likely to see him travel to Euro 2008 with the Italy national squad.

Eh. It's guessing, that one. Nothing definite yet.

I dont know about that ... What I do know is that Milan will reinforce. On the Jazeera sports channel, Don Cesear Maldini is one of the presenters, for Serie A.

Before and after every match he answers questions, some which might have been discussed here on the forum, seeing as they are such obvious questions. Don Cesear is active in the Milan community and board. Basically he gives you the insider juicy stuff.

The presenter asked him about Ronaldinho and Zambrotta .. He replied, that the management have already entered into negotiations with more than five players for the coming season. And the outcome is not bound to Milan playing in the champions league or not.

Logically speaking, who would turn down Milan ?! Who ?! Milan is #1 in the world, Milan is on top of the pile of the richest clubs in the world, Milan is one of the top two most prestigious teams in football history. Plus, these players you talk about (Flamini ... ), they would bounce at the chance of wearing a Milan shirt!

Football comes in cycles, even the greatest of the great fall (i.e. Madrid's spell prior to Capello). But the difference is that the great teams never vanish away. Like Bayern, United, Liverpool, Madrid,Milan, Juventus. These are teams that will always remain at the top. Roma, inter, Arsenal, Valencia, etc these teams reach a high level for a certain time, but they rarely stay at that level of greatness.

UEFA cup next season has no bearing in how Milan will conduct it's transfers.

^^^

Really interesting. thanks.

In fact I missed your kind of super optimistic posts for some time! I hope it's like what you say and Ronaldinho and Zambro and other big names don't think twice about joining us if we're not gonna make it to the CL...

hmm if that is true then R10 will defintly come in the end we will have to wait and see and who knows we mite still get 4th

R20 might come irrespective of CL. He's 28.He's got time But what of Zambrotta?

zambrotta want to come back to italy and no other big itlain club seems to be bidding for him so i think he will choose milan

Zambrotta and Dinho sure will increase the quality of first 11 but we need more than them,if we add a wc gk,one cb(not marker one,we need a leader),RB,flamini and one midfield who can part 2 ways of football(aquilani,hamsky,deco,moutinho) would be a fantastic mercato.

I heard he's going to Man U

I think you under-estimate what it means for players to play in the CL, that's why they move to the bigger clubs in the first place. I think we'll have to pay ridiculous amounts of money, in terms of wages, to get players here.

Alot of it depends on how big Galliani's head is now, after turning down the chance to sign Toni, I think he must start to realise we're in no position to pick and choose who we want anymore.

Arsenal rarely stay at a level of greatness? They're the most consistantly great team in English football in my opinion. They've been in the top flight for nearly 100 consecutive years, they've won the league plenty of times. Liverpool and United won the majority of theres all in a short space of time.

Yep, Lucarelli went to Shakhtar just to play in the CL, and he isnt the exception to rule, plenty of other players have done it/will do it

Galliani wouldnt know talent if it spat at him in the face. Toni was performing miracles at Palermo, he scored against us during one of his final Palermo days. Instead he prefered a washed out Vieri

Galliani needs to show these mid level - lower level clubs more respect. Our relationship with Palermo is virtually broken after he insulted Zamparini, and that has harmed our chances of signing Amauri. If he lost some weight in his head and acted more modestly then we would surely have better relations with a lot more teams in Italy, which in turn leads to us being in a more favourable position to sign said player from said team

EDIT:

@ Paloschi - when you say Hamsky, do you mean Hamisik who plays for Napoli?

After this post I can finally say:

Welcome back my friend !




God....I really missed those fights!

It wouldn't be MF without them. I still say me and R7 should get some sort of football show!

You think !?

How about I tell you a fact, the management knows


After all, they have been there for 22 years constructing team after team, winning the most titles within the span of that time. And producing the the strongest teams to ever compete in Europe and locally.

For the sake of example, during the golden era of Italian football, the Italian teams invested a mind boggling 250M pounds (mind you, today that would be equivalent to 600M pounds). From English football Serie A attracted Gaza to Lazio, Platt to Juve and Des Walker to Samp. MILAN, spent the most, 50M pounds on Dejan, JPP, and Gigi Lentini.

When Milan turned down Luca Toni, they had Gilardino a player they invested (more than money) their faith into him. Had Toni been bought, Gilardino would have been picking up the balls, if you get what I mean

Moreover, why are you questioning the management on certain financial decisions ?! They are the experts in this field, so you should not worry Then there is the thing about player's moving to BIG clubs, and Milan is as BIG as it gets Pato choose Milan over Chelsea, Ronaldinho (will) choose Milan over Chelsea, inter etc ... Sadly though if you take this year as a complete failure (as it is, to an extent), and completely disregard what this current team has done over the span of these six years ... Your clearly not seeing the BIG picture. Which is Milan will bounce back harder than ever next season! Don't take my word for it, history is the teacher

Then on Arsenal. Where were they before Arsene Wenger ?! in fact, where will they be when Arsene Wenger leaves ?! they have a handfull of local cups and league titles. But that is about it. They play great football, so true !! And I enjoy watching them. But an all time great, not a chance.


p.s. It is illogical to conclude that Galliani, Carlo etc don't know what they are doing. They have been proven their worth, even before MF was even established here! The former has seen Milan rise and Milan fall so many times, he has a blueprint in the back of his head on how football politics work. He wont need any of our advice (sure it's a forum and I wont hold you back from venting, but logically speaking..).

On Carlo, let me give you a brief example on a common fixation you might have with him bringing on a defensive mid when a win is needed or playing two defensive mid fielders. (I watch Don Cesear's comments after every game as he is the most experienced Milan figure available to me)! The presenter asks him the question you all ask; "Why does Carlo insist on playing two defensive mid fielders .. Then even when he is still loosing, he subs a defensive mid fielder with another?" Don Cesear replies: "He was a pupil of Capello, a master tactician in Italian tactics, a defensive mid fielder (at times) is more helpful than an attacking player in certain situations. Seeing as they steal the ball back from the opposition and if they do that then they hold on to the ball longer, which gives then much more chances to attack than the opposition. A tactic that both Lippi and Capello are famous for."


Hence, I conclude that not everything is as black and white as it seems.

I disagree with some thing syou said, but you also make some good points.

He's been back for 1 day, given us complete optimism and gigantenormous posts, I give you, R7!

huh


Where is the old Kurt !!!! This is not fair ! I was expecting more effort from you, young lad !


That's it, I'm not even talking to you anymore. I spit my heart out and you just give me a disagree LOL.