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Fillipo Simone
I agree with R7.

Not every message is adressed to us and we should not react to quickly. There is much time left and no reason not to belive changes will come.
Zed.D
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 12 2008, 04:48 PM)
Past? Good. Philosophy? Good. Recent transfer windows? Disastrous.

I know what you are going to say about past couple of seasons? I really don't. For all I know, it seems like this coming season will be a continuation of the past two...

Anyways, there is a long time still to go. So basically anything we say is just opinion. Let's drop it here and wait until the end of transfer window.
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It's not as disastrous as last summer's transfer window though. at least Zambro and Flattuso are two good buys.
Fillipo Simone
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12/06/2008 15:14

I Want Adebayor And Drogba - Ancelotti

Carlo Ancelotti admits that either Didier Drogba or Adebayor would be perfect for his side as the Rossoneri attempt to swoop for the Premier League hit-men.

  Milan are currently working on both fronts as they attempt to prize one of the two away from their club’s in England.

Ancelotti is a big admirer of both strikers and he reveals that he would like a top class hit-man in his squad and he doesn’t mind which player comes to San Siro. 

“I want a top striker and so does the club,” Ancelotti told Sky Sport Italia. 

“Drogba? Adebayor? Either or, we have to see which one of them is ready to come to Milan.” 

The coach also admits that Chelsea were interested in landing him before they secured the services of Luis Felipe Scolari. 

“The discussion of me going there was closed straightaway, perhaps there was an interest on their part but I expressed my intention to stay at Milan. 

“As for Mourinho, he has clear ideas and he has presented himself well to Italy.” 

Reports in Italy claim that Adebayor wants out at the Emirates and Galliani is ready to begin waving his fists once again as he attempts to bring the Togolese striker to San Siro. 


The headline really relates to the text... dry.gif
KillerMax
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 12 2008, 07:23 AM)
It's not as disastrous as last summer's transfer window though. at least Zambro and Flattuso are two good buys.
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I don't rate any of those all that high. Zambro used to be great, but he is on a decline. Flamini is solid, but is a DM and that was not an area we needed cover for.

GK, DC, SB, AM, ST

^^Those are our priorities. So far, we have sort of covered SB with Antonini and Zambro. The rest still need to be addressed.
morgoth
Now that Chelsea have officially appointed Scolari (honestly I don't know if he's going to do well in the EPL, but I'm sure Abramovich signed him for the CL because he's quite good in the cup competitions) the market is going to start, I mean the huge transfers are going to start now and it seems that Scolari wants Deco and kaka, and if drogba goes, which is almost certain they can buy either Eto'o or Villa (I think it's going to be Eto'o and Villa will go to Madrid). I only question is Lampard, if Deco goes to Chelsea it could mean that Lampard will definitely leave.

About Adebayor, it seems that his agent is going to ask Arsenal the permission to talk with Milan, and Arsenal is now looking for his replacement, Santa Cruz is in pole ...

I hope Wenger does convince him to stay there, but I doubt he'll go to the clash, he's smart and if the player wants to go he'll try to make the most of it financially!
Zed.D
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 12 2008, 05:16 PM)
I don't rate any of those all that high. Zambro used to be great, but he is on a decline. Flamini is solid, but is a DM and that was not an area we needed cover for.

GK, DC, SB, AM, ST

^^Those are our priorities. So far, we have sort of covered SB with Antonini and Zambro. The rest still need to be addressed.
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They are better signings than Ibrahim Ba and Emerson nonetheless biggrin.gif

Zambro wasn't good at Barca, but he was great against Holland... I think the reason for his poor form over the past two years is that Barca's style didn't quite suit his. as soon as he returns to his roots he becomes great again.

But I know what you're saying... considering the purchases we have made so far, there's not much chance of winning the Scudetto for us.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 12 2008, 02:06 PM)
Zambro wasn't good at Barca, but he was great against Holland
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I thought he was terrible. The left side certainly looked more threatening when Grosso came on, that's for sure. Zambrotta should either be dropped or moved to the right, Grosso is much better - at least for Italy anyway.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE
12/06/2008 15:14

I Want Adebayor And Drogba - Ancelotti

Carlo Ancelotti admits that either Didier Drogba or Adebayor would be perfect for his side as the Rossoneri attempt to swoop for the Premier League hit-men.

  Milan are currently working on both fronts as they attempt to prize one of the two away from their club’s in England.

Ancelotti is a big admirer of both strikers and he reveals that he would like a top class hit-man in his squad and he doesn’t mind which player comes to San Siro. 

“I want a top striker and so does the club,” Ancelotti told Sky Sport Italia. 

“Drogba? Adebayor? Either or, we have to see which one of them is ready to come to Milan.” 

The coach also admits that Chelsea were interested in landing him before they secured the services of Luis Felipe Scolari. 

“The discussion of me going there was closed straightaway, perhaps there was an interest on their part but I expressed my intention to stay at Milan. 

“As for Mourinho, he has clear ideas and he has presented himself well to Italy.” 

Reports in Italy claim that Adebayor wants out at the Emirates and Galliani is ready to begin waving his fists once again as he attempts to bring the Togolese striker to San Siro. 


The headline really relates to the text... dry.gif
morgoth
Fillipo, don't worry we got it, journalists usually don't have any problems to lie laugh.gif
Habitant
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 12 2008, 02:15 PM)
I thought he was terrible. The left side certainly looked more threatening when Grosso came on, that's for sure. Zambrotta should either be dropped or moved to the right, Grosso is much better - at least for Italy anyway.
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he'll play on the right for sure and grosso will start, thats another certainty.

i'm also sure chiellini will start, and i have the sneaky suspicion barzagli might get a 2nd chance, but then i again i can see panucci starting in the center.

midfield i'd like to see pirlo - der rossi - perrotta

and up front del piero will start for sure with toni and possibly cassano.
Zed.D
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 12 2008, 05:45 PM)
I thought he was terrible. The left side certainly looked more threatening when Grosso came on, that's for sure. Zambrotta should either be dropped or moved to the right, Grosso is much better - at least for Italy anyway.
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Terrible? I don't think that's just, but yes, Grosso did better in the left. overall Zambro had a good game imo.
Habitant
^^^ the only ones with terrible games were barzagli and materazzi.

of course we had ambro-pirlo-gattuso who were spectators for most of the game and toni who was wasteful but besides that not everyone was terrible.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Habitant @ Jun 12 2008, 07:01 PM)
i'm also sure chiellini will start, and i have the sneaky suspicion barzagli might get a 2nd chance, but then i again i can see panucci starting in the center.
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I didn't really focus on Barzagli but I think Matrix was the real problem that night...
Habitant
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 12 2008, 03:39 PM)
I didn't really focus on Barzagli but I think Matrix was the real problem that night...
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he was caught out of positon sooooo many times, he looked lost. watch the 3rd goal.

there's one dutch player (kuyt i belive who gets the rebound ready to cross) and one dutch player in a position to score in 6 yard box, with 3 italy defenders (barzagli being the closest to van bronckhorst but leaving him completely open for a header dry.gif

also on 2nd goal both materazzi and got caught on the counter. thing i i can understand marco going up for the corner because he's dangerous but there was no need to thro everyone in the box, andrea included and as a CB he should have been ready to run back.
dst
Barzagli was awful. He needs a top player next to him to cover his many mistakes. But I don't think Chiellini would/will do much better.

In my view Pirlo and Grosso were the only players that really showed up. But Pirlo should play more deep, like with Milan, you listen Dona-l-doni!??
gal_kenny
From www.foxsoccer.com

AC Milan more interested in Eto'o than Ronaldinho

Updated: June 12, 2008, 9:59 AM EST 7 comments add this RSS blog email print BARCELONA, Spain (AP) -

AC Milan remains interested in signing FC Barcelona's Samuel Eto'o this offseason, while Ronaldinho is no longer a priority.

"Eto'o forms part of the group of forwards who are priorities for us at this time," the Italian club's director, Umberto Gandini, was quoted as saying by sports daily Marca on Thursday.
However, Ronaldinho "does not form part of the first list," Gandini added.

Gandini's remarks echo those of Milan's general manager Ariedo Braida two weeks ago. Brieda said the Italian powerhouse needed Eto'o more than Ronaldinho but acknowledged a large transfer fee would be required to sign the Cameroon international.

Both players, who helped Barcelona win the 2006 Champions League, appear likely to leave soon. The Catalan club is undergoing a makeover after two trophy-less seasons, and coach Frank Rijkaard has already been replaced with Pep Guardiola.

Barcelona would reportedly seek €40 million (US$61.6 million) for the 27-year-old Eto'o, a three-time African player of the year who has scored 77 league goals in his four seasons with the club.

Ronaldinho, who has lost his status as the world's greatest player after a poor season, would likely command a lesser fee. The Brazilian, a two-time world player of the year, is also a year older than Eto'o.

At present, the club most interested in signing Ronaldinho appears to be Manchester City, which said this week it has held talks with the player's representatives.

Milan is seeking reinforcements after failing to reach next season's Champions League, the seven-time European champion only managing a fifth-place finish in the Serie A.
Warchant
SPEND THE MONEY!!! BRING BOTH OF THEM!!!!

sorry...i'm starting to fall inline with some of the other people here who are tired about us not spending a lot of money. i understand debt and all of that, but signing players like etoo and ronaldinho will sell more jerseys and put fans in the san siro every freaking week.

it's an investment you can make money off of...i don't understand what the problem is!

are we seriously going to lose a world class player to Man City?? MAN FREAKIN CITY!?!?!?!?
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 12 2008, 04:50 PM)
are we seriously going to lose a world class player to Man City?? MAN FREAKIN CITY!?!?!?!?
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No World class player would go to Man City anyway, so we don't need to worry about that.
CrazyMilanFan
i dont think that our board will consider selling kaka i mean acmilan.com was full of kaka and his family considering that I dont think kaka will be sold but this means that we will not get drogba bcoz chelsea will ask for kaka in exchange and hopefully Milan will simply say no....... similar situation is with eto barca want pirlo he is really importan to milan wont neotitate with that as the condition so i think that is why milan is looking towards adebayour in more detail
morgoth
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 12 2008, 05:50 PM)
SPEND THE MONEY!!! BRING BOTH OF THEM!!!!

sorry...i'm starting to fall inline with some of the other people here who are tired about us not spending a lot of money. i understand debt and all of that, but signing players like etoo and ronaldinho will sell more jerseys and put fans in the san siro every freaking week.

it's an investment you can make money off of...i don't understand what the problem is!

are we seriously going to lose a world class player to Man City?? MAN FREAKIN CITY!?!?!?!?
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Simply because spending money you don't own will generate interests, and those interests will increase every year to make your debt grow, grow and grow, in the ned Milan will end like Man U!!! No thanks, I'll stick with Banera, Borcchi and Borriello!

(Wow juwt realized that I picked up 3 Milan players whose name starts with a "B", does that mean something?! unsure.gif )
fresh_prince7
That were a B-grade team now.. dry.gif
CrazyMilanFan
Leonardo To Scolari: Kaka Deal Impossible
AC Milan technical director Leonardo has warned new Chelsea manager Luiz Felipe Scolari that Kaka will not be moving to Stamford Bridge.



Scolari is reportedly set to be handed a huge transfer kitty this summer and the 26-year-old Kaka is said to be top of his wanted list.

Former Brazil boss Scolari, who will begin his new job on July 1, handed Kaka his international debut in 2002 and included the AC Milan star in his World Cup winning squad.

But Leonardo has said that despite the links between the Portugal boss and the playmaker, any transfer should be considered impossible.

"It's normal for a Brazilian coach to try to bring in Brazilian players," he said to BBC Sport.

"But signing Kaka is impossible, because he is here at AC Milan and will be here until the end of his career."

Leonardo, like Kaka, also played under Scolari when he was Brazil head coach; and has backed the 59-year-old to be a big success in England.

“Chelsea need an important victory - they are looking to the Champions League," added Leonardo.

"Scolari won the World Cup with Brazil in 2002 and then took Portugal to the finals of the European Championships two years later. So I think he is a good appointment.

"Chelsea were the nearly team of European football last season. They came so close to the Champions League and Premier League.

"I think Scolari can bring something more to them, so they arrive at the right result next time."


Nice read but these kind of stuff change every week but leanardo is a very gud source specilly when it comes to brazillian innocent.gif
Zed.D
Why doesn't Scolari try for R10? it's more realistic than signing Kaka. and if there's one coach who can help R10 revive his career it's Big Phil!
Warchant
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 12 2008, 01:58 PM)
Why doesn't Scolari try for R10? it's more realistic than signing Kaka. and if there's one coach who can help R10 revive his career it's Big Phil!
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from what i've been reading a lot of people think that he is going to go after ronaldinho and that he would easily pick chelsea over man city.

the part that pisses me off is the he has said that he wants to play for milan mad.gif
Portman
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 12 2008, 02:46 PM)
I don't rate any of those all that high. Zambro used to be great, but he is on a decline. Flamini is solid, but is a DM and that was not an area we needed cover for.

GK, DC, SB, AM, ST

^^Those are our priorities. So far, we have sort of covered SB with Antonini and Zambro. The rest still need to be addressed.
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So true. I'm telling this for weeks but some of you still think Zambrotta is Sergio Ramos or Daniel Alves... when he's not even half of the good ol'Zambro.

And Flamini is a player that I never liked but yes, he can be useful.
kurtsimonw
I think Sergio Ramos is better than both Alves and Zambrotta myself. He's a good defender, and incredible going forward, he's more of a goal threat to thanks to him being superb in the air.
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 12 2008, 11:00 PM)
I think Sergio Ramos is better than both Alves and Zambrotta myself. He's a good defender, and incredible going forward, he's more of a goal threat to thanks to him being superb in the air.
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I think he's the best RB at the moment too.

Alves is not as good defending but better in set pieces (both are top top top going foward).

Zambrotta did that too. 5 years ago.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Portikins @ Jun 12 2008, 11:13 PM)
I think he's the best RB at the moment too.

Alves is not as good defending but better in set pieces (both are top top top going foward).

Zambrotta did that too. 5 years ago.
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Seen Ramos play against Russia?
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 12 2008, 05:04 PM)
Seen Ramos play against Russia?
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seen him for madrid when they lifted the title?
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 12 2008, 06:51 AM)
Well, all I am trying to say is that this is the off-season, where the 'sport' media have nothing to write appart from the transfers (thank God there are the EUROs, or you'd be fed BS after BS ..)

What Braida, Galliani, and co do, is a method that has been used for so long now ... They've been using it since and before the Madrid-Perez era ... Whereby they don't get drawn into the crazy figures that clubs would like to collect off of Milan's back ...

Last season and the one before it ?! What about them ? You know exactly what Im about to say here, so please spare me ..

10M for Buroc is not too much, 40M for Ronaldinho is not too much and 50M for Eto'o is not too much ... This is Milan after all, but also this is the difference between this management and the rest (this is the longest standing management of any successful club out there and it has been boosting healthy funding along with healthy results for the past two decades) ... What you need to understand, is not what Galliani, Braida or even Silvio says per say, rather understand that this is not a message to the fans ...

Milan have already addressed the fans .. And told us that there will be changes to the team, and that is what I am expecting ... With that said, it is still too early to speculate !!
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World Class post! I have come to believe the same thing. Media just creates a bunch of bs. I just hope we hurry and start negotations quickly or we'll have to settle for trash/seconds. If we dont get drogba/eto/adebayor:( then we'll have huge problems. WE cannot alone depend on boriello.

Right now we have:
Inzaghi 35
Pato 18
paloschi 18

this is a huge problem. At the minimum we need 4 strikers with 2 being world class and 1 being good off the bench and 1 reserve.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 13 2008, 03:51 AM)
Right now we have:
Inzaghi 35
Pato 18
paloschi 18
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Actually:

Inzaghi 34/35
Borriello 26
Pato 18/19
Paloschi 18/19
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{Ronaldo 31/32}
{New striker}

If the new "WC striker" arrives, we'll be allright with this department.

Why isn't anyone mentioning Cruz? He's been great for Inter ever since and could be avaible. Why not try to get him?
Zed.D
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 12 2008, 11:24 PM)
from what i've been reading a lot of people think that he is going to go after ronaldinho and that he would easily pick chelsea over man city.

the part that pisses me off is the he has said that he wants to play for milan  mad.gif
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Personally it'd hurt less to see us losing him to Chelsea rather than Man City...
CrazyMilanFan
actully we are not losing him we are letting him go
dst
Alves is an attacking RB. He's amazing going forward, can also play as RW and DMF, has great vision and is a good scorer. A ****.

Ramos is a defensive RB who is also good at going forward. Great in defense. Can play at CB but he's not good in that position. What I don't like about him is that he often has disastrous games! A huge ****. A ****-well.

If we can judge all RB's (defensive and attacking) on the same basis then in my view Alves is much better than Ramos. Much better than anyone else out there.

Edited to remove naughty words.
CrazyMilanFan
there are rumours that arsenal are redy to sell adebayour and gallaini will go to london next week hopefully he will not meet with chelsea official becoz rite now they are very irritating
dst
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 13 2008, 12:50 PM)
there are rumours that arsenal are redy to sell adebayour and gallaini will go to london next week hopefully he will not meet with chelsea official becoz rite now they are very irritating
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This is Corriere, right? I still hipe it's all ********!

Edited to remove naughty words.
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 13 2008, 10:55 AM)
This is Corriere, right? I still hipe it's all ********!
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yea it is though it is on milannews as well i dont see milan negotating with chelsea or barca rite now bcoz of kaka and pirlo so that is why i think our first choice is adebouyr and we cant lose these 2 players for a stiker becoz without any of them we are a joke
Rossoneri7
According to SKY Italia ... The Gunners have replied to Milan and they have given the green light to Adibayor .. They are asking 40MM, 5yr contract worth 5MM/season is what is being rumored to be the contract.


Both Galliani and Carlo want this guy .... And I remember Maldini's interview last season, where he was commenting on Emanuel, he said that he was a unique player. Tall, fast, agile and can move in tight spaces (i.e. through Italian defenses) ... He is not a BIG name as Zlatan or Eto'o, nonetheless, if he signs for Milan I would welcome him smile.gif



p.s. I doubt he will end up at Milan though .. It's just this time of the season, where you can't really pinpoint who the targets are
dst
I wish Wenger really asks for 50m! Then we surely won't sign him!! smile.gif
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 13 2008, 12:27 PM)
I wish Wenger really asks for 50m! Then we surely won't sign him!! smile.gif
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i think arsenal will sell him for less than 40 million i thin it would be abt 30-35
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 13 2008, 10:49 AM)
According to SKY Italia ... The Gunners have replied to Milan and they have given the green light to Adibayor .. They are asking 40MM, 5yr contract worth 5MM/season is what is being rumored to be the contract.
Both Galliani and Carlo want this guy .... And I remember Maldini's interview last season, where he was commenting on Emanuel, he said that he was a unique player. Tall, fast, agile and can move in tight spaces (i.e. through Italian defenses) ... He is not a BIG name as Zlatan or Eto'o, nonetheless, if he signs for Milan I would welcome him smile.gif
p.s. I doubt he will end up at Milan though .. It's just this time of the season, where you can't really pinpoint who the targets are
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NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

Spending that ammount of money will be more then stupid!!! He's not even worth half that. If we are willing to spend 40M on Adebayor, then we should be willing to spend that on Eto'o, maybe he will cost just a bit more, but we will actually be bringing in quality, not mediocrity.

rolleyes.gif Sometimes I don't know if Braida and Fester even have a brain

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 13 2008, 11:27 AM)
I wish Wenger really asks for 50m! Then we surely won't sign him!! smile.gif
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laugh.gif biggrin.gif
m1ke
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 13 2008, 12:39 PM)
Spending that ammount of money will be more then stupid!!! He's not even worth half that. If we are will to spend 40M on Adebayor, then we should be willing to spend that on Eto'o, maybe he will cost just a bit more, but we will actually be bringing in quality, not mediocre.
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This is pretty much what I was going to post. Adebayor is simply not worth that amount of money. I can see why he's liked by Carlo etc - he would probably form a decent partnership with Pato. But we could get better players for the money (Eto'o, Drogba, Gomez - even Berbatov would be available for 40m).

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 13 2008, 12:39 PM)
rolleyes.gif Sometimes I don't know if Braida and Fester even have a brain
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I think we should reserve judgment before we start insulting the management on this one. They've made it clear that they're interested in Adebayor, but they've certainly not said that they'd pay 40m for him. Which makes me think this has come from another bored journalist looking to stir things up a bit (there seems to be quite a few of them around at the moment!). We have quotes from Galliani saying that 20m for Ronaldinho is 'too expensive', and even Carlo said that Boruc at 10m was out of our price range! (did anyone see him last night? 96.gif) laugh.gif Adebayor for 40m is laughable.
KillerMax
Adebayor? I'd welcome him. But with that kind of money we could try for Benzema or Berbatov.
han2503
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 13 2008, 12:49 PM)
Adebayor? I'd welcome him. But with that kind of money we could try for Benzema or Berbatov.
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I personally think that both those would be available for 40M and are twice the players Adebayor is. Benzema especially is exectly the type of player we need, he reminds me of a young Sheva back in his day at Kiev

@Mike. I know it's harsh to bash them, but with the way that things are going I can't help but to feel frustrated, and if now we spend a ridiculous ammoun for Adebayor because we become desperate like we've done in the past (Oliveira) I can't help but to feel p!ssed off at them.

The reality is simple, Inter have Mourinho and a great team, and unlike Manicini, Mourinho is no idiot and will transfor that team of parrenial losers to winners. Roma have a great young team with a talented coach. Juve will continue to build from were they left off last season with some smart purchases and Fiorentina are undeniably building a great, young, talented team of their own, and they also have a great coach managing them.

If we don't do anything this summer then we will find ourselves were we've been these last 2 seasons, fighting for 4th
dst
Seeing how desperate for a striker we have become and having in mind the goal shortage of the past two seasons I have to say one thing:

**** YOU KRISTEN PAZIK!


... dry.gif stupid b...h!
morgoth
OMG!!! If we Milan signs Adebayor it will be a sad day for me sad.gif even for 10M€ I won't sign him, I hope Wenger ask for a huge amount of money and Adebayor will never be mentioned in the same sentence as Milan!!!
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 13 2008, 01:30 PM)
Seeing how desperate for a striker we have become and having in mind the goal shortage of the past two seasons I have to say one thing:

**** YOU KRISTEN PAZIK!
... dry.gif stupid b...h!
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laugh.gif laugh.gif

but true mad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 13 2008, 02:36 PM)
OMG!!! If we Milan signs Adebayor it will be a sad day for me sad.gif even for 10M€ I won't sign him, I hope Wenger ask for a huge amount of money and Adebayor will never be mentioned in the same sentence as Milan!!!
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If Wnger does that it would be the only time that I can honestly say that I like him
morgoth
Ten Cate has been appointed as a coach of Panathinaïkos!
kurtsimonw
Is that £40m for Adebayor or 40m/euros? Either way it's far too much.
dst
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 13 2008, 06:35 PM)
Ten Cate has been appointed as a coach of Panathinaïkos!
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He's not good as a coach. He needs to be the adviser. When he was Ajax's manager I wished someone was there to hold him back! biggrin.gif
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