It is obvious that many on this forum don't find the title 'most title winning club in the world' to hold much weight. And that could be understandable, considering if you look at it from a narrow perspective and just consider the last three years over all achievements.

But when you leave that narrow perspective behind and look at the whole picture; Galliani and Co. are as much responsible at getting Milan to the top as any player that sweated on the pitch.

The reason I got attached to Milan, more than any other team when I first started to watch football is the values and philosophy of this club. It is the main reason behind the fusion that is within Milan as a structure and a team, look at Madrid, Barca, inter, etc some might argue that they are the top teams, in the span of 10 years, non of those teams have been close to Milan's record and if you want to stretch it even further in the past 20 years this club had come a long way. And for Silvio to call his club the 'most title winning club in the world', then it is only just.

Now you want to analyze how Milan got to that title ? A record which placed Milan on the top of Europe to tally with the club's heavyweight status.

exactly bro. well said +1

That's why i always say (even in ma status) Milan is the best team in the world..NO PROBLEM WAT SO EVER..Totally right...

Darmian? who is darmian and why do we act like hes something special? If zambro gets injured and maldini/kaladze gets injured then you really want to play with antonini-bonera-senderos-janku

we are the best the club and we have facts to prove it over the long term. We have had by far the best transfer window and i know so many of my friends who are chelsea/arsenal/madrid/barca etc fans who are very very mad that their teams are doing such a poor job in the summer window.


Be proud of our summer and hope for a good season.

Just because you're not informed about our youth squad and potential youth talent doesn't mean you can attack someone you probably have never seen play. Darmian is a very talented kid who has it in him...

I've seen the kid play in person and I was impressed. Tell me, what does Brocchi have to do with our backline? And you're making a lot of "IF" statements...

Seriously, stop wishing our players get injured.

That's all we need to do..hope for a great and d best season after 3 years of a bad serie A season most especially...

pato is talented darmian is unknown there is a difference dont get it confused. and no i'm not wishing our players got injured stop saying things i didn't i said IF but apparently you dont read exactly what i write.

Just because you don't know him, doesn't mean he's unknown. He's represented his respective U-19 Team quite well. You don't ever read anything I write... so why I should read what you write anymore?

By the way, Darmian is quite talented.

Very well talented..Darmian is the future..

talented = pato
unkown talent= darmian

otherwise i would even say kurt is talented.

Wait till he plays and lets see what he does and then you can judge him. playing for u 19 is not the same as Serie A.

Just because you say he's unknown, doesn't mean he's untalented. You can ask other people here about their opinions on this matter. Darmian isn't unknown.

The Fish doll would give you cookies R7,..I'm pretty sure.


Counterquestion: why should we not treat Darmain as something special?

he was quite gud for itlay juniors and in pre season frinedly that biarra morroti trophy but yea it is true we cant consider him a first team player just yet he needs to show more of his talent and ability in coppa i suppose

WHA!? Don't bring me into this! Who says I'm not talented anyways?

It's not that I don't concider it a big achievement, don't get me wrong, but I just don't like Galliani constantly boasting it out to anybody who listens and him constantly using it as an excuse for our recent short comings.

There is a time when you just have to say enough is enough. This is why records are kept. Galliani doesn't need to repeat it over and over again.

It get's annoying and imo that phrase under our badge is not classy. Which in my eyes is what Milan enbodies most, class.

Soon enough If Darmian Fails TO Impress, We will regret this transfer.
I know the whole Ifology is wrong, but looknig at what may happen can benefit you.
If we Sold oddo and We had the Likes of Maldini,Nesta, And Kaaldze ready..We may have been in a better position, but Now If the injuries continue for our CB's and Zambrtoa doesnt get back in form...Bonera...Wher would he play?..Cb and Rb at Once?
ABout the Young Talent we sold, Any news if it was on a loan or something?

I think it's very important to look at what may NOT happen as it is to look at what may happen. We can all say we have a great RB in Zambrotta.. but you have to look at in from both sides. On the good side we have a very experienced RB who will be looking to impress at his new club. On the bad side we have somebody who has been very poor for Barca and Italy over the last two years, making silly mistakes, with an unproven guy behind him.

Loaning Oddo out wasn't a god move, in my opinion.

+1. Particularly loaning him now. We could always have waited. Yes, his crosses were horrendous, but still he was finding his feet in the squad.

Just a random thought I had: Whether we should have sold Emerson too, if we had a chance? Instead of ruining his career (of what's left of it) with us. Even though he can be more or less useful than Brocchi, I don't think he'll get much playing time with guys like Ronaldinho, Flamini, Gattuso (staying), Amrbosini (captaining), Antonini (plus his Uruguayan friends), and Seedorf (getting back to playing in the midfield). So that's 7 guys at least, well ahed of him.

Carlo literally ruined his career by bringing him here at the wrong time, and the rest was ruined because of his injuries. He'd be much, much better used at a mid table Serie A club. Loan, maybe? Or let him leave, unless he wants to stall his career like Simic. Or worse yet. Ba.

What do you guys think? Surely there is some time left. 48 hours, maybe. I know he won't go (nothing in the news), but that doesn't mean he shouldn't. For the sake of everyone. And most importantly himself. Because he still has that little reserve of talent left in him, which shouldn't go to waste.

The last thing we needed to do was loan out a defender.

Defender as in Oddo? Yeah, that was a bit of an unexpected and stupid thing to do.

^^

Yep.

It probably wouldn't be the worst idea to release or loan Emerson. He's definitely going to get very limited game time this season and could probably be a key player for a smaller team. Alternatively he may be happy just being part of the Milan team and contributing when needed, like Cafu and Serginho did last term.

I think we are still fine in defense, but maybe with the money we got from Brocchi's sale (2.7 million Euros approximately), we could use that towards one more defender...

Yes, I just realized there is only what? 48 hours left? Was it until the 31st?

As far as Emerson... I think he's still in a middle of a contract. I'd be in favor of a loan deal for him back to Brazil. So he doesn't sit on the bench the whole time. He's considered a surplus midfielder... and we should do the same as we did to Brocchi. I previously said give him another chance, but at this point there are too many midfielders far better than him.

I don't think we need another loan and Milan usually does not release their players. If Emerson recuperates, he'll be a great back-up. I was fine with having Brocchi on the bench/stands and for Coppa matches as well...

Did the Italian FA not change the deadline then? I know England changed it so it finishes on midnight Monday night, so it finished on a working day as opposed to a Sunday, I just assumed everyone else had as well.

what a roller coaster of emotions! we are fast approaching the end of this transfer window, and it appears that we're finally done on the market..and i gotta say..this has been one unforgettable, legendary thread! FOREVER HAIL The Summer of 2008 Milan Transfer Window!!!

Loan then sell maybe? Because Emerson sure doesn't sell much shirts, so the only way to get good money out of his transfer would be to maybe get his form and fitness back.


True! The best transfer season since when we snapped Nesta. And after that Rui Costa too. Sure helps heal the misfortunes of the last two transfer windows.

I wouldn't say it's that good, because after all, Nesta is Nesta, and it was amazing to get a player like him who if not for Lazio's problems would have never transfered to another team

Quite right. We obviously can't compare this one to when Nesta came to us. Or even Rui. I think what I meant was that this one was the only worthy transfer season after those two came to us. The stuff inbetween was mishmash. Some good signings, Ronaldo, Pato. Others not so good. I think I didn't explain it well enough, maybe. After Nesta, means not necessarily better than that transfer, but one worth noticing.

Still Fester spent, what over 30-40 million Euros (some deals are still kept in dark), but overall I'd say a job well done. Which for a guy like Galliani, coming from me, means 'We love you bald man'. Don't take that personal, anybody. Galliani will always be Galliani. So we shouldn't get too comfortable with him. But getting players like Zamborghini, R80, Flamini, Sheva, and then calling the right cards with Brocchi etc. deserves a bit of a praise.

I'll definitely drink to that one... this has been an unforgettable transfer season. Calls for the opening of a bottle of red wine.

your welcome ...

Aha, you're back then! The thread was worth it. It really was.

woah. long time no see! change your picture though man, he's the enemy now!

likewise, hope everyone's had a nice summer

ya i probably should

agreed. legendary summer

Guys i think all of us doubters owe R7 and Tennie and others who remained positive an apology.

Coming from me, thanks for keeping faith in the team as it helped me to keep faith and i remained patient and was rewarded and learned an important life lesson from this summer. Its better not to judge until 31 and its still not the 31 but to me i have renewed faith in galliani and the management. To R7 and tennie and others Thanks for always remaining positive no matter how doubtful this forum gets, milanfan really needs more guys/gals like you here.

... umm the season hasnt even started?

im talking about transfers.

Some folks prefer to wait until the season is actually underway before judging the quality of our transfers. Having the fastest car in the garage doesn't amount to a hill of beans if you can't win any races.

to each his/her own but i have no doubt.

I was looking around another Milan forum, and an Italian poster that watches pretty much all the Calcio show on Italian TV said that an expert that was talking said that Milan actually made about €10m profit this transfer window. I don't know how that happened but if he's right, hats of to Galliani

Thats what i think too. If the new players dont perform consistently or cant handle the pressure or whatever then will we have made the right decisions?

Its best to judge the new signings by December - January time

Some reports from Italy suggest Palermo is interested in Borriello. But only pure speculations.

Yes. The simple reason is we can never be sure about these things. Even if we spend 300 million and got guys like Drogba, Benzama, Gomez, Essien, Casillas, Alves, and who not, they can flop big time too, if things don't work out. The thing is, having these players is better than not having them. Could we have done better? Yes, there is always room for improvement. But we could have done far worse, which we didn't.

But I rejoice in knowing that we made our moves in the transfer season to make our year a success. Even if it doesn't pan out right, we'll at least know that we tried. With these things, there is never a guarantee. One can sign an unknown, and he may turn out great, we may sign the best striker in the world and he may be injured for more than half the season. Erm, Ronaldo. Besides, there will be a whole year to ponder over how things are turning out.

So pessimists, optimists, and realists, rejoice! For there is still one day to the start! The start of something new! Something great!

i'm surprised with that overall we made money, but i made a rough calculation right before we bought R10 of all our transfers and we were in the green by around 20-25 m.

thing i dont know if they're also counting wages because if they do then i'm sure we dint make 10m, if not then it's possible.

Galliani has always been good managing the club from an economical perspective, it's just when the experts (leonardo, carlo, senior squad members) dont push hard for who they want then we've ended up with funky transfers, and his player evaluation is suspect, and of course the comments. but yes overall i think this time around he deserves credit for a job well done, and he followed through in bring those 7-8 new players.

I think eerybody should be looking forward to the season. Even if I don't like some of the new signings or I feel they were bad value for money, we made mistakes, etc. At least we've done something. I think we will definitly make the top 4 next season, no question, and we can look forward to watching Milan in the league instead of us fielding our reserves in order to rest them for the CL. Hopefully a good start against Bologna, and if we can get our players to play to their potential, we could be awesome.

I don't think wages are being counted but in terms of money spent on just the transfer fees I think we've dont exceptionally well.

But if there really was a profit made overall, I can't understand why we couldn't just spend some money on another CB and a GK. Clubs like Fiorentina went in the red by something close to €50m same goes for Inter. But anyway, moving on, hopefully these issues get taken care of next summer because I think before we get a top quality CB and a top quality keeper we simply cannot win the league

Relax, we'll win the league. Prepare for awesomeness! Ho Ha!

Inter are in the red by well over €250 million.