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Short version: the announcement on Milan Channel definitively puts aside the hypothesis that Sheva was coming back.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 21 2008, 07:23 PM) 
Short version: the announcement on Milan Channel definitively puts aside the hypothesis that Sheva was coming back.
MR Silvano Ramaccioni where are you?
This is why Chelsea will not go to the right direction with this kind of crazy behavior ! they killed Sheva with their stupid system and they didnt understand ! they are very arogant people only for Abramovic pockets , not anything else ! they cant understand very ordinary relationships !
So... Rafa Marquez + Senderos + Kovac + Ivanovic --> not good enough. If we have to buy B-class defenders, just land Stendardo.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 21 2008, 06:35 PM)
So... Rafa Marquez + Senderos + Kovac + Ivanovic --> not good enough. If we have to buy B-class defenders, just land Stendardo.
We gonna have to make do with any of them that comes except Senderos..
What's the point of buying some who's at same level or even lower then Bonera and Kaladze?
Oh, no. nonononono. NOT Senderos. Please.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 21 2008, 06:44 PM)
Oh, no. nonononono. NOT Senderos. Please.
He's the worst out of all of them....We don't need him
Galliani speaking : " The negotiations for Shevchenko is skipped. AC Milan had given the willingness to acquire the player on loan with a right of redemption but Chelsea has said no because they wanted an outright ''
i hate u Chelrshshshshki
i hate u Chelrshshshshki
Anyone wanna give me odds on Shevchenko smiling for the cameras with Galliani before monday?
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 22 2008, 01:14 AM)
Anyone wanna give me odds on Shevchenko smiling for the cameras with Galliani before monday?
That would be the same as me getting a cookie for swearing on this forum.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 22 2008, 12:44 AM)
Anyone wanna give me odds on Shevchenko smiling for the cameras with Galliani before monday?
The way things are at the moment, I'd rather give odds of me getting hit by a 30-foot-diameter meteorite while fishing out in the Antarctic Ocean.
In a word, Sheva has as much chance of being on camera with Galliani as Ronaldo winning the 2009 Champions League with Milan. It's Chelsea we're talking about. They first screwed Ivanovic and now the Ukranian. But stranger things have happened in world football.
Maybe there's a chance of something being worked out. I wouldn't want to hold my breath for this, though.
ADRIANO GALLIANI ON THE SHEVCHENKO NEGOTIATIONS
8/21/2008
NAPLES - Here are the declarations made by Adriano Galliani on the negotiations for Andriy Shevchenko, during the 8th edition of the Trofeo Birra Moretti: "There was a negotiation to get Shevchenko on a loan deal with the right to a purchase, but then Chelsea changed the mode of the negotiation. Milan don't want any other formula, so the negotiations are over. This was their decision, Milan only want a loan deal with the right to a purchase, so now we will go on with our champions."
AC MILAN.COM
Very painful that we can't get him back..Anyways..we'll do with what we have..
8/21/2008
NAPLES - Here are the declarations made by Adriano Galliani on the negotiations for Andriy Shevchenko, during the 8th edition of the Trofeo Birra Moretti: "There was a negotiation to get Shevchenko on a loan deal with the right to a purchase, but then Chelsea changed the mode of the negotiation. Milan don't want any other formula, so the negotiations are over. This was their decision, Milan only want a loan deal with the right to a purchase, so now we will go on with our champions."
AC MILAN.COM
Very painful that we can't get him back..Anyways..we'll do with what we have..
Oh well ...
Now get a CB! Milan should be focusing on their main priority.
Now get a CB! Milan should be focusing on their main priority.
WHAT?? We're interested in Senderos? That must be a joke! Or a nightmare! ****ing keep that useless piece of **** away from Milan! Just what are they thinking can anyone please tell me? What is this? Why are we interested in players of this level, is our plan to win Serie B in a couple of years, or what? Marquez? Senderos? Wake up and go get a serious defender for ****s sake!!!
It's actually so painful for me that I have this weird big smile on my face...
QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Aug 21 2008, 11:49 PM)
Very painful that we can't get him back..Anyways..we'll do with what we have..
It's actually so painful for me that I have this weird big smile on my face...
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 21 2008, 10:31 PM)
WHAT?? We're interested in Senderos? That must be a joke! Or a nightmare! ****ing keep that useless piece of **** away from Milan! Just what are they thinking can anyone please tell me? What is this? Why are we interested in players of this level, is our plan to win Serie B in a couple of years, or what? Marquez? Senderos? Wake up and go get a serious defender for ****s sake!!!
Haha, I was waiting for you to give your insiteful thoughts regarding Sanderos 
Not to scare you, but the mediaset commentator on Canale 5 kept mentioning him A LOT during the game tonight. Hopefully it's just rumours :fingerscrossed:
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 22 2008, 01:36 AM)
Not to scare you, but the mediaset commentator on Canale 5 kept mentioning him A LOT during the game tonight. Hopefully it's just rumours :fingerscrossed:
Yeah I heard his name and thankfully I cannot speak Italian cause I would not have a TV now...
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 21 2008, 10:51 PM)
Yeah I heard his name and thankfully I cannot speak Italian cause I would not have a TV now...
Neither can I, so I can't tell you what they were saying. What I don't understand is Carlo saying he wanted a quality CB and if not we might as well stay with what we have. And yet, the only guys we've been linked with are mediocre at best, Ivanovic was a big question mark so a loan would have been the best option.
And Carlo himself mentioned Marquez!!!! I mean, what the hell!!!???
TMW reports that Galliani says Senderos is the next target after milan's Sheva move failed...This is crazy maine..Senderos of all people..Dang thats bad...He can't defend well in Premiership talkness of Serie A..(No offense to premiership teams though)
QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Aug 22 2008, 12:24 AM)
TMW reports that Galliani says Senderos is the next target after milan's Sheva move failed...This is crazy maine..Senderos of all people..Dang thats bad...He can't defend well in Premiership talkness of Serie A..(No offense to premiership teams though)
i think gallaini only said defender we will see i dont think he mentioned a defender
I see the journalists hypothesizing Senderos in a couple of places. I don't see any Milan figures mentioning him by name.
Cripes Senderos!! 
He makes Kaladze's calamities look good.
@Filippo_Simone: I saw your post about A-class and B-class defenders, and while I agree, it would be great to get in a top class CB, I'll have to ask you, who's available. I think Ivanovic is the best of the B-class, and he's all we can afford at the moment.
He makes Kaladze's calamities look good. @Filippo_Simone: I saw your post about A-class and B-class defenders, and while I agree, it would be great to get in a top class CB, I'll have to ask you, who's available. I think Ivanovic is the best of the B-class, and he's all we can afford at the moment.
Well Shevchenko is not coming back, just as well a legend should not be treated to some of the fickle fans here that simply love Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo and any other fancy name that comes along until they go diabolical.
Senderos? Are they serious, that guy is like the Swiss Titus Bramble, sign him and Arsenal fans will be laughing.
Senderos? Are they serious, that guy is like the Swiss Titus Bramble, sign him and Arsenal fans will be laughing.
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 21 2008, 10:36 PM)
Haha, I was waiting for you to give your insiteful thoughts regarding Sanderos Not to scare you, but the mediaset commentator on Canale 5 kept mentioning him A LOT during the game tonight. Hopefully it's just rumours :fingerscrossed:
He's dead right about Senderos. Senderos is horrible.
But we need to focus on what we have to do! No Sheva... thank goodness because that would divert our attention from the immediate need of a central defender.
And lets move away from Ivanovic. We shouldn't deal or talk with Chelski anymore. No more.
Senderos was a complete joke a few years ago. while Wenger's managed to make him a little better in the past two seasons or so, he's still miles away from Milan's third CB quality. I'd rather we get no one and stick with Darmian.
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 21 2008, 07:03 PM)
I really think it was for the better. Chelsea isn't reasonable to deal with in this regard, and we really have to look elsewhere. Lets have our fingers crossed that we can find a defender.
I don't think we can blame Chelsea. They are their players, so they will look to get the terms they want.. otherwise they're helping out an opposition team without getting anything out of it. Which is pretty stupid.
Galliani is who I blame. He seems to think that other clubs will basically give players away, and even when we looan players he wants the club giving us the player to pay half the wages! I'm still not certain we have that much money to spend, I really don't think we do. Why else would we be haggling over a % of wages?
QUOTE
@Filippo_Simone: I saw your post about A-class and B-class defenders, and while I agree, it would be great to get in a top class CB, I'll have to ask you, who's available. I think Ivanovic is the best of the B-class, and he's all we can afford at the moment.
Ivanovic? No, the best B-class defender is Stendardo. This is the only one from all these mentioned I would like to see with us. Anyone else,..would become surplus the moment we got ourself a A-class defender, and that moment has to come. We have Darmain and Albertazzi for the youth-department, we have B-class defenders like Bonera who have potential (but he won't IMO) to become more, we have veterans like Nesta and Maldini. Were do you see Ivanovic jumping in? I'd rather see more of Darmain or Albertazzi then play the Chelsea practice-team with Ivanovic...
And guys,..why are we so upset with Senderos? Haven't we agreed on this being the silly part of the silly season?
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 22 2008, 08:17 AM)
I don't think we can blame Chelsea. They are their players, so they will look to get the terms they want.. otherwise they're helping out an opposition team without getting anything out of it. Which is pretty stupid.
Galliani is who I blame. He seems to think that other clubs will basically give players away, and even when we looan players he wants the club giving us the player to pay half the wages! I'm still not certain we have that much money to spend, I really don't think we do. Why else would we be haggling over a % of wages?
Galliani is who I blame. He seems to think that other clubs will basically give players away, and even when we looan players he wants the club giving us the player to pay half the wages! I'm still not certain we have that much money to spend, I really don't think we do. Why else would we be haggling over a % of wages?
I understand that... they are their players... but they should be more reasonable.
I don't blame Galliani at all. He's a good man. And loaning out players that aren't happy is a good thing... because unhappy players can cause problems. We have a bottom line. And Milan was offering a more than reasonable offer to pay most of his wages...
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 22 2008, 09:44 AM)
I understand that... they are their players... but they should be more reasonable.
Can I ask your opinion on the Villa/Liverpool/Barry saga then? Do you think Villa should lower their valuation of him so he can go to Liverpool?
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 22 2008, 08:46 AM)
Can I ask your opinion on the Villa/Liverpool/Barry saga then? Do you think Villa should lower their valuation of him so he can go to Liverpool?
Um, well that's a different matter. I'm unsure of that issue, but I think negotiation would be proper. Shevchenko is certainly not worth the 20 million mentioned by Chelsea.
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 22 2008, 09:50 AM)
Um, well that's a different matter. I'm unsure of that issue, but I think negotiation would be proper. Shevchenko is certainly not worth the 20 million mentioned by Chelsea.
A players worth is very subjective though, and to be honest, a player is worth what the selling club thinks he's worth.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 22 2008, 09:54 AM)
A players worth is very subjective though, and to be honest, a player is worth what the selling club thinks he's worth.
True.
But the terms for Sheva were more than reasonable on Milan's part. Loaning out a player is not unreasonable...
moe senderos stuff at differen sources while corrie saying that chelsea mite offer sheva to roma
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Aug 22 2008, 10:10 AM)
moe senderos stuff at differen sources while corrie saying that chelsea mite offer sheva to roma
senderos is a joke but what if he actully comes this is like finding a replacment for digao
this is like finding a replacment for digao
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Aug 22 2008, 10:37 AM)
senderos is a joke but what if he actully comes this is like finding a replacment for digao
this is like finding a replacment for digaoThe worrying thing is that Wenger has bought in a new #3 CB.
I don't know if it's just journelistic maths:
Milan want backup CB + Arsenal have new backup CB = old Arsenal backup CB to Milan.
Or maybe there's truth to it, I sure hope not.
It will be a new low for Milan if that bald headed dork comes 
Mediaset is reporting in a rather long article that Shevchenko negotiations are not over; they indicate that talking is still going on and perhaps a loan-with-required-purchase of 15MM will be agreed. The Sheva-to-Roma rumors, according to this article, are unfounded.
The article also talks about Sendros and indicates that he's being pursued at Flamini's suggestion.
link
The article also talks about Sendros and indicates that he's being pursued at Flamini's suggestion.
link
Flamini, NOOOO!
although flamini is someone who i ham already a fan of but senderos no plz no bcoz it is quite simple senderos sucks
Haha. Well in news that may come as a relief to some, tuttosport has interviewed Senderos' agent. The agent has denied any contact with Milan over Senderos.
(Okay, it's tuttosport and not generally reliable. I hope they're right this time though).
(Okay, it's tuttosport and not generally reliable. I hope they're right this time though).
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 22 2008, 11:54 AM)
Haha. Well in news that may come as a relief to some, tuttosport has interviewed Senderos' agent. The agent has denied any contact with Milan over Senderos.
(Okay, it's tuttosport and not generally reliable. I hope they're right this time though).
(Okay, it's tuttosport and not generally reliable. I hope they're right this time though).
oh this is one of gud articles by tuttosports i dont think wenger will sell any of his player to us or maybe he will have his revenge by selling senferos
Tuttomercatoweb is reporting that Lazio's deal for Matias Fernandez may fall through because Fernandez hasn't been able to get an EU passport. They hint that Lazio may rethink their options and put in a bid for Brocchi.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 22 2008, 04:19 PM)
They hint that Lazio may rethink their options and put in a bid for Brocchi.
Finally!
The weel of fortune turns and turns,.. 
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 22 2008, 12:19 PM)
Tuttomercatoweb is reporting that Lazio's deal for Matias Fernandez may fall through because Fernandez hasn't been able to get an EU passport. They hint that Lazio may rethink their options and put in a bid for Brocchi.
one of the best news i have heard for a while
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Lazio Eye Brocchi If Fernandez Move Fails
Lazio may turn their attentions to Milan’s Christian Brocchi as they may not be able to sign Mattias Augusto Fernandez because of a passport issue.
The Biancocelesti have been keen on the young midfielder but he doesn’t hold an Italian passport and this is likely to lead to problems given the number of non-EU players in the team.
Complications surrounding Fernandez’s transfer may force the Aquilotti to look elsewhere. Tuttomecatoweb claims Brocchi is the alternative and he may arrive according to his agent, Alessandro Moggi.
“He is at Milan for now but anything can happen in the last week of the transfer window,” Moggi told Tuttomercatoweb.
Brocchi doesn’t seem a part of the first team plans at the Rossoneri this season and he is likely to be loaned out.
Lazio are on standby and ready to swing into action if their move for Fernandez fails.
Delio Rossi has been strengthening well this term as the club attempts to rise back to the pinnacle of Serie A.
Reports in Italy claim further reinforcements are likely to arrive and Brocchi is the hot favourite to come in.
Lazio may turn their attentions to Milan’s Christian Brocchi as they may not be able to sign Mattias Augusto Fernandez because of a passport issue.
The Biancocelesti have been keen on the young midfielder but he doesn’t hold an Italian passport and this is likely to lead to problems given the number of non-EU players in the team.
Complications surrounding Fernandez’s transfer may force the Aquilotti to look elsewhere. Tuttomecatoweb claims Brocchi is the alternative and he may arrive according to his agent, Alessandro Moggi.
“He is at Milan for now but anything can happen in the last week of the transfer window,” Moggi told Tuttomercatoweb.
Brocchi doesn’t seem a part of the first team plans at the Rossoneri this season and he is likely to be loaned out.
Lazio are on standby and ready to swing into action if their move for Fernandez fails.
Delio Rossi has been strengthening well this term as the club attempts to rise back to the pinnacle of Serie A.
Reports in Italy claim further reinforcements are likely to arrive and Brocchi is the hot favourite to come in.
Come on Galliani make this happen!!!!!
Poor Brocchi. if he know he's so LOWly rated he would've left us a long time before 
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Aug 22 2008, 04:03 PM)
Poor Brocchi. if he know he's so LOWly rated he would've left us a long time before
Would you leave Milan if people didn't like you? I know I would not.
Anyway, I don't want Brocchi to go. As a 4th choice DMF he's very good in my opinion. The thing is, Carletto thinks Brocchi can be a playmaker too which is where all goes wrong! He played as an AMF at Fiorentina but that means nothing... I play as an AMF in my team too at times that does not mean I can play as an AMF at the biggest level...
I kinda thought Brocchi was Carletto's only other option to the Flamini type MF(since Emerson was out of it). I don't want him to go either. It's not that he's bad. It's just that he's not the bee's knees compared to Seedorf, Kaka and Pirlo. He isn't a crowd favourite like Rino either.
He's 80% of the time done the job he was put on the field to do. Of course he's another one of those players who go unnoticed. In fact he's like Favalli. Very good for a third choice player.
In any case I'd rather have a Brocchi on my team, than someone like Tiago or Almiron.
Pana you play as AMF for your team? Are you sure in your case, AMF isn't something like Auxilliary Mirinda Fetcher? Gee whiz, you're second choice waterboy... 
I kid, I kid, I know you're a RB for Panathinaikos.
He's 80% of the time done the job he was put on the field to do. Of course he's another one of those players who go unnoticed. In fact he's like Favalli. Very good for a third choice player.
In any case I'd rather have a Brocchi on my team, than someone like Tiago or Almiron.
Pana you play as AMF for your team? Are you sure in your case, AMF isn't something like Auxilliary Mirinda Fetcher?
Gee whiz, you're second choice waterboy... I kid, I kid, I know you're a RB for Panathinaikos.
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