X-Offender
Oct 3 2012, 02:08 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 3 2012, 09:25 AM)

Why Baggio? You mean because of the Brescia connection?
Yep.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 3 2012, 11:12 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 3 2012, 11:21 AM)

Hindering the development isn't even the biggest consequence of those contracts. The big money that was spent on them was the big mistake, I would have had no problem keeping all those players for the years they were kept, but certainly not at 4m a piece which was what most of them were earning
For me it's a clearance sale not a rebuild
I don't know. Even with the spared money, everything would be more-less the same. Look at us now - all we did is get rid of those big contracts, but in return - nothing?
Rossoneri7
Oct 4 2012, 10:57 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 4 2012, 02:12 AM)

I don't know. Even with the spared money, everything would be more-less the same. Look at us now - all we did is get rid of those big contracts, but in return - nothing?
Montolivo
X-Offender
Oct 9 2012, 01:19 PM
There are recurring rumors about us wanting Guardiola for next season, and we're ready to hand him a young and quality team. My "dream" would be signing Yanga-Mbwia this Winter, then sell Robinho and Boateng and with the money sign Criscito and Mkhitaryan (whom I think can become a world class player in a big club) next summer. Imagine this team:
Abbiati
Abate - Zapata - Yanga - Criscito
Montolivo - De Jong - Nocerino
Mkhitaryan
Pato - ElSha
Jack Sparrow
Oct 9 2012, 02:08 PM
Do not forget that Guardiola can be as much a stubborn *** as Allegri. It's just that he has the titles to match. In any case:
QUOTE
Pep Guardiola is not interested in a possible coaching position at Milan, according to Mexican defender Rafael Marquez.
The 33-year-old centre-back played under the Spanish tactician at Barcelona for two years, and has confirmed that the Champions League-winning Coach would not consider a move to Serie A.
“I have met with Pep a few times during his stay in New York,” he told Cadera SER. “I am sure he'll be back in football soon, and I think it will be in the Premier League.
“He would be the perfect Coach for Arsenal.”
Guardiola has taken a year sabbatical following his record-breaking four seasons at Camp Nou, and has been linked with a number of positions across Europe, including at the Rossoneri and Manchester United.
I don't think Guardiola is good enough a coach to win with the players we have. At the same time, I'm not sure he will be interested in a team-building project. Especially with the kind of pressure the Italian media puts.
kurtsimonw
Oct 9 2012, 03:30 PM
Where in England?
Jack Sparrow
Oct 9 2012, 03:37 PM
United most probably. Or Arsenal or Chelsea or any of the big four. He can't coach anywhere except Barca in Spain...and Germany would be too small a pond.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 9 2012, 04:29 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 9 2012, 03:19 PM)

There are recurring rumors about us wanting Guardiola for next season, and we're ready to hand him a young and quality team. My "dream" would be signing
Yanga-Mbwia this Winter, then sell Robinho and Boateng and with the money sign Criscito and
Mkhitaryan (whom I think can become a world class player in a big club) next summer. Imagine this team:
Abbiati
Abate - Zapata - Yanga - Criscito
Montolivo - De Jong - Nocerino
Mkhitaryan
Pato - ElSha

Well, from what I've seen, Yanga isn't worth the trouble. As for Mkhitaryan, I think we'll sign Iarmolenko.
Jack Bauer
Oct 9 2012, 04:40 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 9 2012, 07:29 PM)

Well, from what I've seen, Yanga isn't worth the trouble. As for Mkhitaryan, I think we'll sign Iarmolenko.
Yarmolenko is not an AM though, he's winger/second striker.
maldini03
Oct 9 2012, 05:08 PM
Never heard of this Mkhitaryan fellow. Are we linked? I say make a move for Rossi, Yarmolenko, and Yanga. I also believe that De Sciglio could be something special so I'm all for letting him play out the season as our starting LB, fighting with Antoninni. So a no to Criscito for me. Has anyone been keeping tabs on Ganso, because if we decide to cash in on the Prince we may as well get a playmaker, and with Robinho linked to Santos it seems feesable.
X-Offender
Oct 9 2012, 05:11 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 9 2012, 06:29 PM)

Well, from what I've seen, Yanga isn't worth the trouble. As for Mkhitaryan, I think we'll sign Iarmolenko.
Well, I don't know much about Yanga to be honest. Just threw him in there because we've been linked with him, and I thought he was supposed to be good. Mkhitaryan, on the other hand, is just awesome. I saw Shakhtar's game against Juventus, and even though most people were drooling over their number 10 Willian, Mkhitaryan is the guy that really impressed me. He made the most difficult things look so simple. Great vision, agility, speed, good shot. IMO he'll be the new Kaká. There would be no point in us signing Yarmolenko as we already have El Shaarawy, unless we want to play a pure 4-3-3. But right now I think we need a quality trequartista than anything else.
X-Offender
Oct 9 2012, 06:21 PM
According to El Mundo Deportivo, we've offered to Guardiola a contract of €6 million per season for next year. La Repubblica today also mentions that his staff will include Baggio and Maldini.
Link
Zed.D
Oct 9 2012, 06:32 PM
Guardiola-Maldini-Baggio
That sounds too good. some journalist just got bored, methinks.
X-Offender
Oct 9 2012, 07:03 PM
Why? I think it's very possible.
Jack Bauer
Oct 9 2012, 07:27 PM
He won't come without a promise for a certain amount from our budget for transfers. Certainly higher than we have been spending recently. Can we provide that?
Fillipo Simone
Oct 9 2012, 07:50 PM
If we sell Robinho and Boateng, and if some investors come in - why not? And only Berlusconi knows how close Milan actually is to some investors.
Jack Bauer
Oct 9 2012, 08:02 PM
It's a big if about the investors. I'll believe it when I see it.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 9 2012, 08:39 PM
Well, the business world is a different pair of shoes. You may never even hear about it, but it still can be happening.
Rossoneri7
Oct 9 2012, 08:58 PM
A new investor would find a better ROE investing in an EPL team, heck a Championship team than in Italy.
X-Offender
Oct 9 2012, 09:06 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 9 2012, 10:58 PM)

A new investor would find a better ROE investing in an EPL team, heck a Championship team than in Italy.
They have to invest with their heart.
Anyway, according to Tz-online.de, Bayern are ready to offer €23 million for Boateng.
LinkIf it's true, we'd be foolish not to accept. With those money we can sign a proper, quality trequartista no problem.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 9 2012, 09:25 PM
Boateng? What good could he bring to Bayern? I really don't see why they'd go for him.
Rossoneri7
Oct 9 2012, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 10 2012, 12:06 AM)

They have to invest with their heart.

Hah, then your talking about Berlusconi
X-Offender
Oct 9 2012, 09:33 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 9 2012, 11:25 PM)

Hah, then your talking about Berlusconi

Yes, Berlusconi and his big, huge, immense heart.
d'Arc.LP
Oct 9 2012, 09:44 PM
Milan President Silvio Berlusconi ready to offer Pep Guardiola 6 million per year to coach the Rossoneri.
Source: beIN Sport
han2503
Oct 9 2012, 10:42 PM
I don't get how we could ever afford Pep, or the team he would inevitably demand from the management. Such a move would make the sale of Silva pointless.
X-Offender
Oct 10 2012, 12:15 AM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 10 2012, 12:42 AM)

I don't get how we could ever afford Pep, or the team he would inevitably demand from the management. Such a move would make the sale of Silva pointless.
Berlusconi is literally in love Guardiola, so maybe he's willing to make that sacrifice. Anyway, we're talking about next season, cause Guardiola has confirmed he won't train for this season.
X-Offender
Oct 10 2012, 12:21 AM

Allegri, last call. The Milan coach must not lose on 20 October against Lazio, otherwise he will be sacked. Tassotti to take his place. For next year Guardiola has been contacted, but an investment of €80 million is needed.
han2503
Oct 10 2012, 09:19 AM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 10 2012, 12:15 AM)

Berlusconi is literally in love Guardiola, so maybe he's willing to make that sacrifice. Anyway, we're talking about next season, cause Guardiola has confirmed he won't train for this season.
Still, it's not just about bringing Guardiola but also about providing him with the players he personally requests
Jack Sparrow
Oct 10 2012, 09:24 AM
Guardiola's style will not suit Italy or Milan. Well..okay..I mean the Barcelona style. You saw how hard pressed Barca were to break down our defence last year. Yes..it was a stronger team than now...but we're talking about one of the strongest teams in Italy going against one of the strongest teams every assembled and holding fast.
So can Pep really change the way he coaches? Can he adjust to Silvio 'wanting' 4 defenders and 3 attackers?? I dunno. Pep's Barca cannot and will not be the same as Pep's Milan. If he tried to enforce that blueprint he would fail.
And 80 million??

No way. Give us a stadium instead. At least that's not FFP deductible.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 10 2012, 10:33 AM
I think Pep understands football in Italy. He played for Brescia and allover has a Italian connection. I don't think he'll do a "Luis Enrique" and pretend he's in Barcelona playing against Almeria.
As a proto-Xavi/Pirlo type of player I think he understands the concept of midfield and the team as a defending and attacking unit. This surely will present a improvement.
han2503
Oct 10 2012, 10:41 AM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 10 2012, 10:33 AM)

I think Pep understands football in Italy. He played for Brescia and allover has a Italian connection. I don't think he'll do a "Luis Enrique" and pretend he's in Barcelona playing against Almeria.
As a proto-Xavi/Pirlo type of player I think he understands the concept of midfield and the team as a defending and attacking unit. This surely will present a improvement.
Atm, ANYTHING is an improvement over the noob that is coaching us. Even Tasso would do a better job
acid911
Oct 10 2012, 07:03 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 10 2012, 02:33 AM)

Yes, Berlusconi and his big, huge, immense heart.
X-Offender
Oct 11 2012, 12:27 AM
According to Gazzetta's tomorrow edition (front page, main article), Berlusconi has decided to launch an assault to Guardiola. He's ordered Galliani to fly to New York (where Guardiola is currently with his family) and convince him to accept our bench. This is part of a long-term project that includes important investments in players as well.
LinkHm...
Rossoneri7
Oct 11 2012, 07:11 AM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 11 2012, 03:27 AM)

According to Gazzetta's tomorrow edition (front page, main article), Berlusconi has decided to launch an assault to Guardiola. He's ordered Galliani to fly to New York (where Guardiola is currently with his family) and convince him to accept our bench. This is part of a long-term project that includes important investments in players as well.
LinkHm...
Guardiola will not transform us into Barcelona. Even if we purchased the players he needs. Barcelona's 4-3-3 is taught from grass-roots to the senior level. It was a work in progress for over a decade and it finally paid off for them. The same will not happen at Milan.
Nevertheless, he has the credentials and trophies to back a bid in taking the bench at Milan. I would consider him a prime candidate and welcome him.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 11 2012, 08:07 AM
Right
Jack Sparrow
Oct 11 2012, 08:38 AM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 11 2012, 01:41 PM)

Guardiola will not transform us into Barcelona. Even if we purchased the players he needs. Barcelona's 4-3-3 is taught from grass-roots to the senior level. It was a work in progress for over a decade and it finally paid off for them. The same will not happen at Milan.
Nevertheless, he has the credentials and trophies to back a bid in taking the bench at Milan. I would consider him a prime candidate and welcome him.
Exactly. I would be happy with him taking part in the grass roots program. But then that means keeping success away for another 5 years.
Why would a record breaking coach want to do that?? He can easily do just like Mourinho and constantly only switch to clubs which can challenge for trophies from the word go.
And why is Berlusconi alright with investing in players for Guardiola and not Allegri? Is it purely because of playing style?
Rossoneri7
Oct 11 2012, 09:01 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 11 2012, 11:38 AM)

And why is Berlusconi alright with investing in players for Guardiola and not Allegri? Is it purely because of playing style?
Not really, it is clearly the fact Milan is under construction now (in an effort to create a fortress financial position), by the next transfer windows we will gradually see investments in the club. Allegri's problem is wrong-timing.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 11 2012, 09:03 AM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 11 2012, 11:01 AM)

Not really, it is clearly the fact Milan is under construction now (in an effort to create a fortress financial position), by the next transfer windows we will gradually see investments in the club. Allegri's problem is wrong-timing.
You really think? I'd say lack of competence primarily.
kurtsimonw
Oct 11 2012, 09:11 AM
Leonardo and Allegri are/were clearly scapegoats. Allegri's success of the past 24 months has given Berlusconi more time to waste.
Rossoneri7
Oct 11 2012, 09:17 AM
Well, we had to conform to a cumulative loss of 45MM over three years starting from 2012. Noting that we average 60MM loss per annum due in most part to wages consuming 90% of our Revenue. We had to reduce our wages by strictly enforcing a wage-cap. The same is the primary reason why players prefer to go to the EPL than Serie A.
Jack Bauer
Oct 15 2012, 05:56 PM
Milan are keeping an eye on Cameroon and Marseille stopper Nicolas N’Koulou, the Italian giants have confirmed.
“He is a player who we have been monitoring since he was with Monaco,” Diavolo director Ariedo Braida told La Provence.
“At the minute, we already have six players in his role and therefore he is not at the top of our list. It’s also not that easy to sign players anymore because of asking prices.
“It would be difficult to sign him during the January transfer window, but we’ll continue to watch him to understand whether he could do a good job for us in the future.”
N’Koulou, 22, signed a four-year contract with his current club after leaving Monaco in June 2011.
http://www.football-italia.net/26162/milan...koulou-interest
CHU-LIP
Oct 15 2012, 06:39 PM
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Oct 15 2012, 07:56 PM)

“At the minute, we already have six players in his role and therefore he is not at the top of our list. It’s also not that easy to sign players anymore because of asking prices.
Yepes, Mexes, Bonera, Zapata, Acerbi and...?
Jack Bauer
Oct 15 2012, 06:57 PM
Yeah, Braida is a little senile there.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 15 2012, 07:44 PM
Maybe he's counting de Jong as well?
Jack Bauer
Oct 15 2012, 07:48 PM
Why would he? Can't see any reason for de Jong to play CB (did he play there in the past at all?) unless a really major injury crisis.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 15 2012, 07:52 PM
He's done it in the past for HSV. Milan is know for doing such "errors"; just remember how Seedorf was a striker.
kurtsimonw
Oct 15 2012, 07:53 PM
Unless he means one of the full backs can play there? I can't imagine who though.
han2503
Oct 15 2012, 07:54 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 15 2012, 07:52 PM)

He's done it in the past for HSV. Milan is know for doing such "errors"; just remember how Seedorf was a striker.
Lol, exactly
When the counted Ambro as a CB and then resorted to playing him as a striker in some games, or how Urby is everything but a GK these days.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 15 2012, 07:56 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 15 2012, 09:53 PM)

Unless he means one of the full backs can play there? I can't imagine who though.
Hmh. That makes me think of Didac Vila.
Jack Bauer
Oct 15 2012, 07:58 PM
Maybe our Algerian diamond can.
Bonera - Acerbi - Mesbah - Antonini. I would love to see that defensive line in some coppa game for entertainment purposes.
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