You see to be in a real good mood, Blue. Great news today, and even better presentation!

The difference there is that Allegri didn't want Ronaldinho, while he seems fond of Robinho, never really had any issues with him and always gave him regular playing time.


Agreed


Thank GOD!!

As for that Pato bit. If Pato really is fit and ready Allegri has just sunk to a new low for me and he should be thrown head first into a pile of sh!t!!

Actually, sources are necessary for every poster, a country-western style won't suffice. Please, follow the forum rules, it really is simple.

ohh commonn theree darlin'......Prettyy pleaseee with sugar on top

I repeat, rules should really be followed.

Can't disagree with this even if I tried. Robinho is the luckiest darned soul alive, in this regards.

Muntari not called up for Ghana, Milan have De Jong's replacement

Link

Great

Coaches don't decide if a player is fit or not, that's up to the medical team. And we all know they're retards, so I wouldn't be shocked if they're wrong.

It makes no sense to me that Allegri wouldn't play Pato and declare him unfit, unless the board has set their minds on selling him in January. We are still paying his wages after all.

I don't know. This situation is very strange.

I would suspect that his agent would know he's fit based on what the medical team are telling Pato.


That would make no sense though, why would they want other clubs to think that Pato is still injured if they want to sell him, that would continue to beat down his barely there price tag.

Doesn't make sense to continue to say he's injured if they really want to sell him. And personally I don't thinkt that's the case, right now is a terrible time to sell Pato.

News:


-Allegri: I am happy with Niang's progress. He is developing well and he is on the right on track.




-Steaua Bucharest have rejected Milan's loan offer for Vlad Chiricheș. They want 8m euros for him.




-We have contacted Andrelecth about a move for lucas biglia. We are using Luciano D'Onofrio (lawyer/agent/football transfer expert) to negotiate a deal. Our main competition for him is wolfsburg.



-We have identified De Jong's replacement. Galliani has contacted Genoa today and has reached a verbal agreement for a loan move for Juraj Kucka. They will discuss financial terms and a potential buy out clause for the 26 year old slovakian midfielder next week.

Milan currently have Kevin Constant on loan and Francesco acerbi on a co-ownership with genoa.






-Raiola was at the sansiro tonight with Galliani. Raiola has worked with Galliani since 2010 taking part in every transfer window procedure. He will also take part in the January transfer window as he has a good relationship with milan.

QUOTE

Raiola: "If Niang is like Balotelli? I don't think that Niang resembles anyone."

Raiola: "Tonight was the first time that I saw Niang live, and you can see that he has something special."

Raiola: "Two years ago Balotelli asked me to get him back to Italy, but since that negative period he hasn't asked me again."

Raiola: "How much Robinho is worth? I never speak about this on tv. We're evaluating all the offers from Brazil."

Raiola: "Robinho is an important player for Milan, and that's why they haven't really considered any of the offers received so far."

Raiola: "If Vladimir Weiss is good enough for Milan? He's a player who's ready to play for a big club."

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Kucka... Great.

He's not that bad is he? I haven't managed to watch genoa at all this year.

He's been crap for more than a year now.

What is it with you guys and this Belgian club? It's spelled - ANDERLECHT!

Better than strasser/muntari/ambro?

I remember he was promising a couple years ago. Inter wanted him bad or something.




Hahahhahahahahhahahhaha

Yeah, key phrase: "a couple of years ago". He's been crap ever since, hence why everybody didn't want him anymore. Honestly, I don't know how he's been performing this season, but I'd rather stick with Ambro/Strasser/Muntari than sign him.

You would say no to him even if he was free like constant? He's 26, not even worth giving him a shot?

Agreed. In fact, he never was that promising. Inter watched him maybe, but they never signed him, nor did he ever do something special with Genoa.

What's the point in filling our team with mediocre players? I wouldn't say no to Sneijder for free, but Kucka? He can stay where he is.

ah ok fair enough.

He actually fell apart with the Genoa fans due to his poor performances if I remember correctly. The guy's not worth the trouble.

So far:


We have 32 players on our squad and Galliani has said publicly that milan will try and reduce their squad size.


Players who could potentially be on their way out.


Gabriel (loan)

Vila (loan/permanent)

Mesbah (permanent)

Carmona (loan)

Valoti (loan)

Traroe (permanent)

Niang (loan)

Robinho (permanent)





I agree with most of these decisions except robinho and niang. I think we should keep niang and let him play gradually and Robinho should be sold only if we can get someone to come in and fill his spot. If we can land balotelli, i'd say it would be smart. Otherwise it will be difficult if say bojan picks up a long term injury to only field pazzini, sharaawy and niang.

One question: why is the spacing in you posts always that way Blue? Hitting Enter a dozen times isn't necessary you know?

to seperate it, so its not a big paragraph of text. Easier to read.

Considering we play with Boateng and two strikers, I really don't think Robinho's absence would be felt that much. He's only started playing regularly in the last three weeks or so. Besides, Pato could finally... Nah, who am I kidding. Cross Pato. But still, four strikers (Bojan, Pazzini, Shaarawy, Niang) should be enough. If we receive an offer of €10 million for Robinho I'd sell him on the spot.

Mesbah, I forgot about him. What an incredibly awful player.

+1
Same goes for Traore

Agreed. Enough of terrible free transfers draining our budget with their uselessness. If we need guys to be around for training then call up young guys. They can't be much worse than guys like Mesbah and they may actually benefit and grow into decent players. At the very least that will make them more valuable to sell/use as parts of swap deals.

Watching strasser yesterday has made me think that we should be giving our youth team a try. I'd rather call up cristante and others instead of playing with clowns like mesbah and traore

No need, because Mesbah and Traore are just fillers. They didn't play more then 90 minutes this season, so they're pretty irrelevant.

The problem is they bulk up our squad and weigh down our wage bill.

These guys need to be offloaded first thing in January before we even think about signing anyone

Look..for all we know they're probably brought in as favours for other clubs. Or we genuinely made a mistake. Not every single transfer can be Noce right.

I agree they need to be offloaded. And I prefer offloading Robinho if we must in summer. The position he occupies is too critical for a new player to just come in and replace without a problem. God forbid, we end up in January having to find a new formation/tactic again. We know how long it takes Max to come up with one that works. :-)

It breaks my heart, but for me Flamini is the one that should go.

Gabriel - Loan
Flamini- Permanent
Traore - Permanent
Mesbah - Permanent
Vila - Loan (though I feel wrong about this, since we haven't even seen him play)

Of course, Permanent or loan with option would be the same I imagine.

These are definite moves. All the rest if they moved, would require immediate replacements.

Yeah I agree, selling robinho without a proper replacement wouldn't be too smart.

According to Corriere dell Sport:

• We've found an agreement about Romanian defender Chiriches, which includes a loan with purchase option of €7 million at the end of it;
• Acerbi might be directly swapped with Kucka;
• Robinho is valued €12 million by the club.

Because at some point they may have to deal with FFP, and they are not going to accomplish that without reducing player wages, and that will not happen if they hold on to players that just worm the bench.


Source = goal.com

So getting some money + a reduction in wages may look good to them at some point. OTOH, that does not mean that they will just cave in and accept a ridiculous offer.

On a related note, I would not trust anything said by Galliani (or any other executive at Milan or other teams) until the transfer season is over. Even if you are trying to offload a player, you probably still want to extract maximum value, which means you will set the price high and explain to everyone why you cannot afford to lose the player. Similarly, if you want to buy someone you may still claim that you are "fully covered" in the role, and getting a new player is unnecessary.

Finally, any reason "Winter Transfers 2013" is not "pinned"?

And that's all well and good, but as I said, they'll have more than just an offer from us on the table.

Is a player going to move for 20m on £100k a week to *insert big club* or free on £80k a week to Milan. I think both the player and Man City will pick one option, not us.

How good is this Chiriches guy?

No idea. Apparently Chelsea are/were after him to replace Terry.

Berlusca: "We're trying to strengthen the team by signing young champions. I hope someone will come (in January, I presume). Robinho? I hope I can convince him to stay, he has class".

Galliani: "We will try to keep Robinho, although he has nostalgia of Brazil. We'll see..."

Link

Yes, let's all try and keep the very useful and expensive Robinho.

News:


Howdy ya'll uncle blue here to give you your daily news.




-Big Ol' Berlusconi: "Howdy there boys and girls, now don't you worry your silly head about the transfer window, my old steed galliani is hot on the trail of a few bukaroos. We have targeted 3-4 bright eyed broncos, but we don't wanna reveal their names as getting them may be a little tough if them crazy news agencies found out. We wouldn't want them ol' prices to go up neither"

(translation included below)



Now back to regular news



Berlusconi: "We're considering to sign 3-4 players, but I won't reveal the names because then the negotations will break down, and then the prices will go up."

Berlusconi: "It's a shame about De Jong but now our champion is back, the guy we signed from Inter, Muntari."

Berlusconi: "I haven't thought about a replacement for Robinho. We're trying to make him forget about his longing to return to Brazil."

Berlusconi: "Milan can ask anything of me, except for asking me to be on the pitch while wearing the number 9 shirt."

Berlusconi: "I will be at Milanello tomorrow to speak with the coach and players."






-We have acquired potential teams for the players that might be leaving our club in january. There are several teams interested in our players.


Gabriel will go to a team in Serie B

Mesbah/Acerbi will be included in the deal for kucka

Didac, will head to either espanyol or valencia

traore will head to a team in france

flamini will head to a team in france

Valoti has Novara on his mind

Carmona will go to brescia or empoli

Robinho will go to santos






Galliani: "Robinho wants to go back to Brazil, but we want to keep him here."

Galliani: "Robinho has some offers from Brazil. We're in talks and we'll see what happens. He misses Brazil."



Santos vice president: the Robinho deal depends on Milan and claims "Milan are not interested in any of our players."



Robinho's father:

“Robinho will not leave Milan,”

“He does not want to deceive the fans of other clubs.

“The Rossoneri have already sold other strikers, so they will not let him leave too.

“These stories are only rumours – he will not move from Milan [in January]. I'm sure he will go to Santos in the summer.”




-Pablo Armero could make his move to milan. Galliani has offered cash (8m) + a youth player for his services.




-Steau Bucharest has accepted milan's loan deal with an option to buy for 7m euros. The young romanian CB will be a milan player after a medical and personal negotations.




-We are linked with Man city player Guidetti.



-Juventus have said no to our proposal of a swap between pazzini and matri



-We are pressing manchester city over balotelli. We want a loan + buy deal, while city only want straight up cash.



-Newcastle have joined the race for biglia. They are our number 1 competitor.



-Inter have proposed a swap deal between Boateng and Sneijder, we have declined the deal.



-media in the netherlands believe that strootman is on his way out in january. Where to? Arsenal and Manchester United are in pole position.





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Balotelli's new tattoo:

First of all, as I already stated in my previous post, I agree that even assuming Man City is under some financial pressure, "that does not mean that they will just cave in and accept a ridiculous offer".

If we are serious (a big "if" there), I would expect we would eventually make some sort of a semi-decent offer (as we eventually we were ready to do with Tevez, once we got serious - remember that deal got canned when Berlu refused to sell Pato, which would have raised the funds needed to buy Tevez). From Man City's perspective, my understanding is that they are not sitting on a lot of offers for Balo right now (other teams are fully aware of his problems, and his recent performance has been rather "spotty"). Also, Man City has recently gone public with an ultimatum (which will limit their options and may force the issue), and at some point, Balo's contract *will* expire. From Balo's perspective, I do not believe money is his only consideration (plenty of interesting stories about that, I remember hearing something about him handing out £50 bills to random people at supermarkets). Moving back to Italy and wearing the Milan shirt are also important (remember what happened when he was still playing for Inter).

Let's be clear, I believe the chances of this deal happening are rather slim, but I do not consider it impossible.

(And, as I explained on my last post, statements from management in either team are likely to be misleading.)

Armero? Why do we want him now?

These statements from Berlu or Baldie are meaningless. They could just be posturing intended to squeeze more money out of whatever deal we make. Then again they could be serious (opinion on Italian press is mixed, I have seen at least one article stating that selling Robinho right now would be a big mistake).

The only logic I could see is that his value is probably at it's lowest point in a while right now. Best time to get him and hope he improves?

I'm sure after his first season in Udine there were silly figures being thrown around with rumours to Juve/Napoli.

What good would do to keep a mediocre, expensive player against his will? Robinho clearly wants to return to Brazil, and his high wages are not justified by his performances. I hope we can squeeze around €10 million from Santos or whichever club wants him and get done with it.



Yeah, could be, but we have a good player in Constant who's gradually developing into a quality LB. That's why i find it a bit odd. This is actually hilarious. We've been longing for a good LB for years now ever since Jankulovski's decline, and now that we finally might have one, we want to sign another one? Oh dear.