Good god how low Robinho is valued these days. A totally unknown kid is more expensive.

And to think City paid €45 million for him a few seasons ago.

nvm

Indeed. And not just that...remember his first season with us here? We used to criticize him but say "he'll do better when he settles in". Who would have though that the best was already in front of us..

But I think Binho is also a Allegri casualty. I refuse to believe someone can fall in form due to just age.

And here i remember robinho was this guy who would be in those videos with atrocious rap music with huge transfer fees and now just considered swapped for a unproven youngster, This is some adriano stuff man xD

Yep. I used to be the fiercest Robinho supporter in here, always defending him when everyone else was criticizing him. But now the guy has fallen so low, I just can't fathom his presence anymore. The sooner we sell him and Boateng and sign a quality trequartista/winger, the better.

He's a CM naturally but he plays mostly AM. Good player technically, strong with both feet. Good passing and shooting ability.

If your expecting kaka, he's not it but maybe with time he can be pretty good. Not the best talent out of brazil but quite good. I"d say Ganso is better but at least this guy isn't injured 24/7

News:


-Various sources have come out saying that Felipe Anderson to Milan is close to being done and that Robinho is included in the deal. Milan and Santos could wrap the deal up in December and a January move could take place.

-Sneijder is heading for a january exit. Inter have told him he won't play until he accepts a pay cut which is an infringement on his contract. If it goes to court, he will have the right to walk away on a free transfer. Contacts have been made from Russia but he has declined them.


-Galliani has contacted Parma about a possible move for Jon Biabiany. No prices reported yet. We are in the market for wingers.


Berlusconi:

"We intend to build a new milan over the next 3 years. Buying players? Yes we will buy 1 or 2 champions for the next season. This new milan will be young so that the cycle can last a long time.


Guardiola? We will try to sign Pep, but it's difficult.
There are some English clubs after Guardiola, especially City who have directors that we know very well.


A swap deal including Pato and Balotelli? I don't like making exchanges.







-The owner of PSG has contacted berlusconi about a possible buy out of the club. Sheik Al Thani has offered a reported 500m euros for the out right purchase of Milan. Negotiations are set to begin soon as milan is currently in a favourable financial position for investors.

-Chinese investors have also contacted Berlusconi about the purchase of possible shares and sponsorships. Berlusconi has told the media that he will listen to all potential investors as he looks to pump cash into the club.





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Sell! Sell! Sell! Sell!

Sell equity..sell equity...sell equity. Financial investment is the order of the day. 35% for 300 million!!

I don't like the idea of Milan owned by the Chinese.

Me either.

you mean partly owned?

and what are your(to whoever feels that way can answer) concerns? (I understand if there are any)

Eh, it will open up the next big frontier China for us. We can be rolling in cash, as a lot of Chinese people already love Milan (thanks in no small part to the classy players we've had over the years like Maldini and Shevchenko). Of course, they come with their own way of doing things, but I wouldn't say no.

Particularly if that is the last resort, and they don't have much say in highest-level decision making. 40% max.

Galliani said he will not be selling Robinho. Berlusca said we are not selling Pato and we are sticking to Allegri.

I believe 0% of what Galliani said and 75% of what Berlu said. Meaning Robinho will be sold, Pato is staying and Allegri will be kept until the end of the season and then he's out.

At this point it would be very shocking if robinho lasted past the January window

Galliani is the biggest liar of this universe.

News:


-Sneijder could leave inter in january and move to milan. Apparantly his wife does not want to leave milan and Inter want to get rid of him as soon as possible. However, berlusconi is not open to the idea as his wages are too high.


-Van Basten recommended a young upcoming dutch player to berlu who we could potentially try to buy in january.


Our approach will be younger players in the next couple markets.


-Galliani: "There will soon be a big surprise about the new Milan shirts. They will always remain red, black & white but I won’t say more." Rumors say our next sponsor will be Pertamina (State Oil and Natural Gas Mining Company') is an Indonesian state-owned oil and natural gas corporation based in Jakarta.



-Berlusconi:
“We will try to keep our books in order, as with this economic crisis in Europe we really cannot afford outlandish expenditures. The idea is to reconstruct a young team within a time-period of no less than three years that can lead to a new era of success. Don’t forget the team of champions was built with one big signing per year.”


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I don't know; I'm all against it. I don't agree with China's overall policy, so it's a no for me on any occasion.


Hmh? New sponsor already? And new shirts? Why that surprise, what they're gonna make them more "Asian" so they can sell more or what?

I just hope it's not some kind of atrocity.

Bra and panties? *shot*, Do hope it looks nice, I've liked Fly Emirates and Bwin on the milan shirts along with The OPEL ones, always added a little to em

Hopefully it's not a change of brand from Adidas to Nike, I always ..ALWAYS will prefer adidas, more comfy more stylish, Also bigger as i remember too.

Pato is reason enough to justify the sale of Pato. Whoever buys him is stupid, he's not worth what we will likely get at some point.

Sad, but true

lulz Robin Van Persie (incredible injury history and controversy) only cracked the 20 goal mark at 28
Wayne Rooney cracked the mark at 24
Drogba got there at 28
Christian Vieri at 27
Batigol at 24
Even Sheva only got there at 22 So did Cristiano Ronaldo and Fernando Torres

Given Pato's injury history, and his scoring rate (the scoring RATE is world class no matter how you look at it); provided there's any possible way he can recover he on course to be at least more prolific than Most of the World's world class strikers. I'd say he's at least worth our patience until he's 24. It's also hilarious that you are a staunch Allegri fan but our number 1 hope doesn't get the benefit of the doubt

Agreed.

Pato's problem is that he looks very stiff and slow, won't stay uninterested cause that's not the case. He should start playing for the team, like receive the ball, defend it or pass it and act like a true prima punta. Kinda like Pazzini. He's never going to be the old, fast-paced Pato that would beat anyone on one-on-one's. Those days are dead and gone. He should also be played regularly to regain momentum.

He hasn't lost his pace. People used to say that regularly about Kaka, R9 even Arjen Robben when they got injured....and then saw it back after a prolonged time while playing fit. He needs a good run and it'll all fall into place...even the dribbling and beating his man.

Allegri made a comment about Pato being too hot headed and that's the one thing I'll choose to believe from the charlatan...because I SEE him rushing things on the pitch. He wants too much while putting out too little (my gut feeling is that he's scared to re-injure himself). What we're left with is a lazy-looking half-@$$ed looking player who might not necessarily be as lazy or nonchalant. This is also why his passing is atrocious....always in a rush.

He played slower when he just came to Milan, got involved in the play and turned on the afterburners when he had his chance. These days it just seems that he thinks he can sniff out a goal here and there without much movement, which isn't working at all.

Why do you think does days are gone?

Michael Owen was a striker who's game was built around his pace. He kept getting similar muscular injuries to what Pato has (and these would affect Owen less because he was fully developed) and even though he was only 26/27 still, he was never the same player. Pato can still be a good player, but he's always going to be injury prone now and not what he once was.

Pato's not solely "built around pace" he has a lot of pace but not nearly as one dimensional as his detractors suggest
He can score when he's not 100%, he can head the ball well, take free kicks and he can poach well. HE NEEDS TO WORK MORE. That's all. When his confidence improves so will his speed. It's not like anything has been broken or stretched so the mechanics of his movement would remain relatively unscathed save for a few extra pounds of muscle

Because his muscular structure has changed.

Well, I'm not a doctor, but I'm sure this still can be fixed. Sure, he'll always be injury prone, but look at some of the players who managed to recuperate and maintain playing on the same level.

Don't get me wrong, he could still recuperate and start playing on high levels again, although that's still doubtful. I just don't think that we'll ever see the old, quick Pato, who could easily dribble past many opponents, and who could even play as a winger like he did under Leonardo. The Pato of nowadays can only be a prima punta IMO. He doesn't have that acceleration and speed that distinguished him in the past, and I don't think he'll ever be able to regain those traits. Instead, he should use his physical strength, intuition and accuracy in front of the goal to his advantage in order to become a quality CF.

I think he has it in him as I've seen short glimpses of it. He's just soooo hesitant. That it is frustrating for you at home when you're watching on TV to accept. You can see that he's holding back on everything from really running through his paces, challenges and everything in between.

That being said, I can't help but feel that I really cannot blame him for playing like he is as his very promising carreer has turned into a nightmare due to mistreatment.

EXACTLY!!!! omg I feel like hugging you (no homo) right now

The kid was doing EVERYTHING well, taking defenders off the dribble left and right, shooting from distance, passing well, taking and scoring f**king free kicks...and what we do? "hurr duurrh he needs to bulk up derp"

People also forget that in his new body everything is different but I can't totally say that he's not trying. for starters he wouldn't have gotten all of this muscle if he himself wasn't hitting the weights. He'd have been really fat.

It's sad that ppl neglect the mitigating circumstances and choose to guzzle the haterade instead Yet they have no problem getting behind the charlatan n00b who has shown pretty much NOTHING even in his iBra/Silva riddled success

The problem is that sport is just as much mental as it is physical. If your head is 100% in the game, then you can only be half the player.

Agreed, but the only way I can see Pato having that again if he has a true run of a good number of games and he remains injury free.

Allegri is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. If Allegri is cautious about playing Pato due to injury concern or lack of form he's a jerk with a vendetta against the player. If he plays Pato twice a week for the next month leading to his fragile body breaking down again he's called an idiot who trains his players too hard. The man just can't win with some of you.

And Pato has played 5 times in a month. We played 7 games in that period, starting 4 of them. It's the right balance, in my opinion.

The Statinator!

Numbers are the law.

Well yeah ok. But, you're forgetting what he said in his press conference then to bench him afterwards. If Allegri said that he's being careful with Pato then that would be acceptable I guess. Then, we can talk about the time he preferred Niang over him. That's not all in the stats Kurt.Is it?

News;

-Pato and his agent met with galliani, everything is resolved now as galliani confirmed he is milans future.


-We have made an official request to the calcio for 15 year old mastour hachim to feature with the first team. Serie A rules currently state players have to be 16 in order to play.


-Players who could leave:


Mesbah like Turin and Palermo, Flamini and Traore could return to France, Didac Vilà may follow the call of Spain while Strasser and Carmona could go on loan in teams battling for the salvation in Serie A.



-Fenerbachee has offered 15m for robinho.


-There are talks for a matri and pazzini swap in january.


-Silva has come out and said that milan have proved their worth on the pitch by winning 7 champions league and that PSG should look to their example.



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1. One could wish for all these things to happen but something tells me we won't be getting rid of these guys so easily

2. Jump at it!! 15m could finance a move for a good midfielder

3. Does it really matter? Both are on the same level of mediocre. At least Matri would attract some females to the stadium though

4. Classiest player we've had playing for us in a while that cannot be grouped as part of the old gaurd. Wish we could see a return sometime in the future

Also good news about Pato. Obviously we're not going to sacrifice him for someone who will be out the door come summer

1. LOL, are we that desperate?

2. I don't think Robinho would accept the destination. He only wants Santos.

If santos are willing to match that then he can go imo. But we shouldn't lower his price too much. If there are clubs willing to pay up to 15m for him then we should try to push him in that direction

We'll see. These are only just rumors.

We need to sell Robinho at all cost, and hopefully sign a decent winger in January. If we're gonna continue playing with 4-3-3, that is.

news:


-Nocerino's agent has come out and said that nocerino dreams of playing for Napoli.


-Kaka's dad has hinted Kaka is on his way out. He has said he wants to remain in europe.


-Lucio said he is unsure of his future in january


-we are close to signing young argentine lucas mugni.



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Why would Nocerino want to leave us now? I don't see how Napoli would need him anyway.

And why is Lucio rethinking his status? Isn't he injured?