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kurtsimonw
Llorente for free next summer?
Jack Sparrow
Doesn't make sense. Why would they let him go for free. And if they do, almost every other club can offer him better wages than we can.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 10 2012, 03:38 PM) *
Why would they let him go for free.

Well they won't have much choice in the matter, he's out of contract.
dst
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 10 2012, 04:38 PM) *
Doesn't make sense. Why would they let him go for free. And if they do, almost every other club can offer him better wages than we can.

We can offer him one month free of criticism on milanfan and...

Jack Sparrow
Nope. Sorry. That girl is sacred. She is our Vestal Virgin, our Joan of Arc.
kurtsimonw
Virgin like Paris Hilton?
X-Offender
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William405
XD
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 10 2012, 11:22 AM) *
Virgin like Paris Hilton?

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BVR
I am sure Pato took care of that by now.
TheOgre
Good news
http://football-italia.net/24997/milan-line-strootman-bid
Fillipo Simone
Hmh, out of the blue. And I thought we can archive Strootman along with the others - Ganso, Eriksen, etc. Seems yet another long line of Strootman slogans forthcoming.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 13 2012, 07:45 PM) *
Hmh, out of the blue. And I thought we can archive Strootman along with the others - Ganso, Eriksen, etc. Seems yet another long line of Strootman slogans forthcoming.

It's just a report, it could be completely true or completely false. Not really going to get my hopes up for this one to happen
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 13 2012, 09:51 PM) *
It's just a report, it could be completely true or completely false. Not really going to get my hopes up for this one to happen

Naah, I never meant it's something concrete. Only that now Strootman will once again start to appear in all those "Milan reinforcement" projections, just like this summer.
Dracoris
Why do we want him? We got "Italy's best transfer" in De Jong!!
BVR
It seems that Ganso is on his way out of Santos finally after having coins thrown at him and called mercenary. He is probably going to either Cruzero or Sao Paulo, the release clause for domestic transfer is much lower. Who knows maybe in January we can get him if the new clause isn't insane.
acid911
QUOTE (BVR @ Sep 14 2012, 07:10 PM) *
It seems that Ganso is on his way out of Santos finally after having coins thrown at him and called mercenary. He is probably going to either Cruzero or Sao Paulo, the release clause for domestic transfer is much lower. Who knows maybe in January we can get him if the new clause isn't insane.

Why do we want him? We got "Italy's best transfer" in De Jong!! sleep.gif
kurtsimonw
YOU JUST COPIED WHAT DRACORIS SAID!
Fillipo Simone
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CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 14 2012, 03:51 AM) *
Why do we want him? We got "Italy's best transfer" in De Jong!!

I don't know, maybe Traoré and Flamini aint so good, and Ambrosini won't last forever.
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 14 2012, 07:45 PM) *
YOU JUST COPIED WHAT DRACORIS SAID!

Yup. I did that on purpose. sad.gif Galliani has a terribly knack of over-exaggerating things. De Jong is good, and may even be the best incoming player in Serie A this year (though for me that's debatable), but my point is it's pretty much futile to expect transfers that fans want. At least for the near future.

We are, and could very well be stuck with no-name or has-been players, unless something big changes!
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 14 2012, 06:32 PM) *
Yup. I did that on purpose. sad.gif Galliani has a terribly knack of over-exaggerating things. De Jong is good, and may even be the best incoming player in Serie A this year (though for me that's debatable), but my point is it's pretty much futile to expect transfers that fans want. At least for the near future.

We are, and could very well be stuck with no-name or has-been players, unless something big changes!


What should change is players becoming more affordable - thats the big change to be expected
TriniKing_CE
Dream on - Like that's going to happen!
maldini03
I think we need serious additions in Jan. I say make Rossi a top priority, and if Allegri is gone begin to build the team in the image of the next coach
X-Offender
QUOTE (maldini03 @ Sep 19 2012, 03:34 AM) *
I think we need serious additions in Jan.


Stop it there. We don't have the money. goodheart.gif
maldini03
Well one can dream right... hasn't stopped us in the past... Cough cough.. Fab, Dzeko, Kaka Cough cough...
X-Offender
QUOTE (maldini03 @ Sep 19 2012, 06:27 AM) *
Well one can dream right... hasn't stopped us in the past... Cough cough.. Fab, Dzeko, Kaka Cough cough...


Sure, but dreams are so far from our reality right now.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 19 2012, 04:20 PM) *
Sure, but dreams are so far from our reality right now.


Yup.

But we could be in the loop for that defender from France, and probably strengthen some other areas.
X-Offender
Carlo Mazzone, Guardiola's coach during his spell at Brescia, reveals: "One day he called me and told me he'd visit me soon. I asked him 'as a tourist or as a Serie A coach'? He told me 'both'. I believe that next year he'll be training either Milan or Inter".

Link

Interesting...
acid911
Quite. smile.gif At this point in time, I wouldn't say Inter. Guardiola seems to have that special respect for Maldini, for Milan, and well I wouldn't be surprised if there were some preliminary discussions between us and him. Anyway, wherever he goes, I suspect the management of that club will make some splash signings. They'd have to.
Fillipo Simone
Well, I really cannot predict our signing policy. But splashing money seems rather unlike.
acid911
But then bringing in a big-name coach, in my opinion, is even more unlikely. unsure.gif It's either the start of a new project (even with young but talented names), or no famous/experienced coach worth his salt will take up the job. It'll be a waste of their talents, trying to - and probably failing - to earn gold with our current crop of players.

Talent which could be put to much better use at other clubs or weaker leagues (if the money is good).
Babis911
I dont think we can fill Guardiola's conditions as a club right now. And by conditions i mean salary+transfers! The guy isn't gonna come to play with Mesbah for LB and Pato 1 week in and 6 out...
KillerMax
QUOTE (Babis911 @ Sep 26 2012, 07:51 AM) *
I dont think we can fill Guardiola's conditions as a club right now. And by conditions i mean salary+transfers! The guy isn't gonna come to play with Mesbah for LB and Pato 1 week in and 6 out...


That's the block I see too. But many thing can change.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 26 2012, 11:12 AM) *
But then bringing in a big-name coach, in my opinion, is even more unlikely. unsure.gif It's either the start of a new project (even with young but talented names), or no famous/experienced coach worth his salt will take up the job. It'll be a waste of their talents, trying to - and probably failing - to earn gold with our current crop of players.

Talent which could be put to much better use at other clubs or weaker leagues (if the money is good).

And that's why Allegri didn't get the ax. Berlu would have done it sooner if this wasn't the case.
acid911
Agreed. sleepysmiley03.gif He may yet do it, but first he'd have a rope in a new animal first. A big name coach would have to be very desperate to come here (in this situation, that is), and well let's just say these are not desperate times. If Allegri does go, it'll be another low-key coach that takes his place, this much I am sure.

That is unless some things get a shake up in Milan, mostly the team and medical staff. Top coaches look for projects, new ones preferably. They very rarely look to play a hero in a stale, sinking or wrecked ship.
Forza Milan!
QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 26 2012, 04:20 PM) *
Agreed. sleepysmiley03.gif He may yet do it, but first he'd have a rope in a new animal first. A big name coach would have to be very desperate to come here (in this situation, that is), and well let's just say these are not desperate times. If Allegri does go, it'll be another low-key coach that takes his place, this much I am sure.

That is unless some things get a shake up in Milan, mostly the team and medical staff. Top coaches look for projects, new ones preferably. They very rarely look to play a hero in a stale, sinking or wrecked ship.

I disagree. Even with the recent changes, Milan still has a competitive squad and a solid reputation. That counts for something. Arguably, the financial restructuring is the basis for a "project". May not be enough to attract a top name established coach (though Rafa already offered his services), but there are good coaches that would look at Milan as a ”step up" in their career. Think of someone like Guidolin, Montella, Gasperini, just to name a few (and yes, these guys already have jobs, but I am sure there are others I am not aware of).

I am am not normally someone that looks at the coach as the person to blame. However, the team today is in a rut and playing well below their potential (on paper we are not worse than Samp, Atalanta, or even Udinese). So something needs to change, and I believe that will not happen with Allegri (too inflexible, relationship with players is not strong enough to inspire the team).
acid911
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Sep 27 2012, 01:51 AM) *
I disagree. Even with the recent changes, Milan still has a competitive squad and a solid reputation. That counts for something. Arguably, the financial restructuring is the basis for a "project". May not be enough to attract a top name established coach (though Rafa already offered his services), but there are good coaches that would look at Milan as a ”step up" in their career. Think of someone like Guidolin, Montella, Gasperini, just to name a few (and yes, these guys already have jobs, but I am sure there are others I am not aware of).

Well, that are just the guys I had in mind in my post above. happy.gif These aren't top guys, and well that's exactly what we may have to do with at this point in time. These or any other Serie A coaches. Which may be a good thing in the end, but really the biggest names will not touch this Milan, unless we have a truck full of $$$.

QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Sep 27 2012, 01:51 AM) *
I am am not normally someone that looks at the coach as the person to blame. However, the team today is in a rut and playing well below their potential (on paper we are not worse than Samp, Atalanta, or even Udinese). So something needs to change, and I believe that will not happen with Allegri (too inflexible, relationship with players is not strong enough to inspire the team).

Agreed. sad.gif Allegri practically lost it all after the departure of Silva and Ibra. These were the two guys he had a good relationship with, and for all intents and purposes these two were half the team. Allegri has had problems with seniors (most of which are gone), and established players (like Mexes, Pato, and more).

The only groups he seems to be at peace with are youngsters (El Shaarawy, De Sciglio) and duds.
Jack Sparrow
We need something like this in our mid-field. If nothing else the music in that video is groovy.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 28 2012, 01:32 PM) *
We need something like this in our mid-field. If nothing else the music in that video is groovy.

The problem is we were never even after someone like him. Juve were the only interested big club in Italy, which is ironic considering the options they have in midfield
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 28 2012, 03:48 PM) *
The problem is we were never even after someone like him. Juve were the only interested big club in Italy, which is ironic considering the options they have in midfield


Well, he actually stated a few days ago that he had refused to sign for the Primavera Milan when he was younger because he didn't feel like moving at such a young age.


QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 28 2012, 03:32 PM) *
We need something like this in our mid-field. If nothing else the music in that video is groovy.


Pulp Fiction closing theme. headphone.gif
Bluesummers
NEWS:

Maldini or Giuseppe Biesuz might be our new CEO as Galliani may take a job offered by the FIGC


Robinho will be sold in January to Santos. Rafael might come as part of the deal


Yarmelenko is our top target as he's a free transfer next summer.


We have pressed Guardiola's agent hard to begin negotations for next year. Guardiola has agreed to meet and discuss things in december



We are interested in Yann Sommer of Basel (GK). It looks like this will be Abbiati's last season with us.


Ferguson wants Sharaawy but Galliani has said hes' not for sale. Valuation 25m.
Rossoneri7
I do hope Galliani does leave. He has done a splendid job thus far. A lot of criticism was (and remains) directed towards him for taking down the club, I hope that his departure does not cause a void in terms of running the club. As whoever replaces him will face a challenging task to emulate his predecessor.
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 2 2012, 11:50 AM) *
I do hope Galliani does leave. He has done a splendid job thus far. A lot of criticism was (and remains) directed towards him for taking down the club, I hope that his departure does not cause a void in terms of running the club. As whoever replaces him will face a challenging task to emulate his predecessor.

Galliani might have done some really great things for this club, but he's also made some huge mistakes. The biggest one of all is making decisions with his heart instead of using his head

I hope that when it is time for his replacement the person coming in won't let such things cloud his judgement, that's why I think someone like Maldini wouldn't be ideal for the CEO job, there are many areas in which Maldini can be given a job, and imo, it's blasphemy that he hasn't been offered a position with the club yet.
Rossoneri7
Well, then you too are making decisions with your heart when you refer to Maldini not appointed a job yet as blasphemous tongue.gif

On a serious note. Let us put this renewal of old players case to rest please ... As we all know Milan couldn't/cant afford players, especially with demand from EPL teams, the Spanish giants and the Bundesliga offering better terms to 'insert player name' in comparison to us. The renewal of old players was fueled by sentiments (I wholeheartedly agree), but there is more to that story. More in the sense that we do not know, nor foresee the club's policy. We can not go on and point fingers at the man without knowing the full story. To keep fueling assumptions based on bias against Galliani is just not right.

I say this from a moral and ethical stand point and not for my backing of the management team that has made this club the success it has achieved to date.

han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 2 2012, 12:52 PM) *
Well, then you too are making decisions with your heart when you refer to Maldini not appointed a job yet as blasphemous tongue.gif

On a serious note. Let us put this renewal of old players case to rest please ... As we all know Milan couldn't/cant afford players, especially with demand from EPL teams, the Spanish giants and the Bundesliga offering better terms to 'insert player name' in comparison to us. The renewal of old players was fueled by sentiments (I wholeheartedly agree), but there is more to that story. More in the sense that we do not know, nor foresee the club's policy. We can not go on and point fingers at the man without knowing the full story. To keep fueling assumptions based on bias against Galliani is just not right.

I say this from a moral and ethical stand point and not for my backing of the management team that has made this club the success it has achieved to date.

His mistakes aren't just tied to the contract renewals. I can make a 5 page list of mistakes that he's made, specifically from 2005 onwards.

Like I said, the man did some great things for Milan thanks to the backing from Silvio, but he's also made some terrible mistakes along the way, mistakes which are partly to blame for where we currently find ourselves.

The past is the past, but the future is bleak for us. Don't say it's a rebuilding project, because this is not what that is. And don't compare us to Juve because their rebuilding project came from massive funding by the Agnelli family.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 2 2012, 01:57 PM) *
Galliani might have done some really great things for this club, but he's also made some huge mistakes. The biggest one of all is making decisions with his heart instead of using his head

I hope that when it is time for his replacement the person coming in won't let such things cloud his judgement, that's why I think someone like Maldini wouldn't be ideal for the CEO job, there are many areas in which Maldini can be given a job, and imo, it's blasphemy that he hasn't been offered a position with the club yet.

Actually, I don't think it was his mistake, not his biggest at least. The whole big contracts thing only partially prevented the teams development.

And I think Maldini would be the right guy. We need heart as well if we're gonna be Milan again - the famous winning Milan with charm and heart. Galliani may got caught in the moment for a while, but actually I think he's a good combination of heart and reason, in a overall assesment.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 2 2012, 03:04 PM) *
His mistakes aren't just tied to the contract renewals. I can make a 5 page list of mistakes that he's made, specifically from 2005 onwards.

Like I said, the man did some great things for Milan thanks to the backing from Silvio, but he's also made some terrible mistakes along the way, mistakes which are partly to blame for where we currently find ourselves.

The past is the past, but the future is bleak for us. Don't say it's a rebuilding project, because this is not what that is. And don't compare us to Juve because their rebuilding project came from massive funding by the Agnelli family.

Yes, we're incomparable with FIAT/Agnelli, because they're a brand holding a grunge on Italy's industry a century or so. But this is a rebuild. What should it be if not a rebuilding scheme?

But anyway, how reliable is that Galliani story?
X-Offender
You know what I'd like? Guardiola with Baggio as his second. cool.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 3 2012, 02:17 AM) *
You know what I'd like? Guardiola with Baggio as his second. cool.gif

Why Baggio? You mean because of the Brescia connection?
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 3 2012, 12:08 AM) *
Actually, I don't think it was his mistake, not his biggest at least. The whole big contracts thing only partially prevented the teams development.

And I think Maldini would be the right guy. We need heart as well if we're gonna be Milan again - the famous winning Milan with charm and heart. Galliani may got caught in the moment for a while, but actually I think he's a good combination of heart and reason, in a overall assesment.


Yes, we're incomparable with FIAT/Agnelli, because they're a brand holding a grunge on Italy's industry a century or so. But this is a rebuild. What should it be if not a rebuilding scheme?

But anyway, how reliable is that Galliani story?

Hindering the development isn't even the biggest consequence of those contracts. The big money that was spent on them was the big mistake, I would have had no problem keeping all those players for the years they were kept, but certainly not at 4m a piece which was what most of them were earning

For me it's a clearance sale not a rebuild
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