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han2503
I think people here are falling into the trap of getting waaayy ahead of themselves.

I think these last few transfer windows have thought us enough.

I'm not getting my hopes up.

Plus, kurt, your idea sucks major @ss!

Giving up both Boateng and Abate, 2 of our few really good players to get a huge whiner like Sneijder who's always injured anyway would be stupid. I'd only jump for joy at Sneijder if we manage to get him for free

@ x-off, no we shouldn't even think about selling Pato for that amount. I do like the idea of sending him on loan though. See how he does without our disaster doctors messing with him. If he does well there, he'll not only increase his price but he'll also give us some hope for the future. Him and Balotelli together would be my ideal combo.

There are other ways to get Balotelli. We need to be patient, see how this thing with City plays out.

Also, if we get Balo in then you can forget about Sneijder. Those are 2 huge contracts that we'd have to fork out, which once again, renders the sale of Silva useless. Because for 6m I'd rather have kept him then got Sneijder

For me, our top priorities should be removing some of the heavy baggage we have and making 2 or 3 really smart moves. Strootman and that defender we're being linked with look smart on paper, and if we somehow manage Sneijder on a free it would be genius.

I feel that atm, it's too soon for Balotelli to come here. But I conceed that this could be our only window of opportunity
Bluesummers
News:


-We are linked with Nene as a replacement for Robinho who will leave in January. Nene doesnt feature in ancelotti's plans this season.


-Arda Turan is looking to leave A. Madrid. We are linked.


-Berlusconi anncounced today that he is enganged to 27 year old Francesca Pascale.



-Ariedo Braida has come out and stated:

"We are not after Vlad Weiss. We are not interested in wingers or wide players huh.gif



-Corinthians have offered 15m for pato. Milan are currently evaluating the deal. The italian media believes that if the price was around 25m, milan would agree to the deal. There are also talks about Paulinho or Cassio maybe included in a swap deal. The possibility of a loan move also exists for January.



-We are heavily linked with Van Ginkel today, italian media believes galliani and braida really want him.



-Flamengo have hired Davide Lappi to negotatie terms with Milan for Robinho. Santos and Flamengo both want Robinho this january.



ms/mn/fi/cm/tmw
Zed.D
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Dec 18 2012, 02:49 AM) *

-Berlusconi anncounced today that he is enganged to 27 year old Francesca Pascale.


I just puked a little bit in my mouth. puke.gif
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Dec 18 2012, 01:42 AM) *
I just puked a little bit in my mouth. puke.gif

You puked just after hearing about it. Imagine what she would have to do in the near future to earn something from this marriage..
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Dec 18 2012, 01:51 AM) *
You puked just after hearing about it. Imagine what she would have to do in the near future to earn something from this marriage..


Well, she did agree to it .. And must be thrilled to marry a billionaire .. Don't let her tender age fool you, gold diggers would do worse than marriage tongue.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Dec 17 2012, 10:51 PM) *
You puked just after hearing about it. Imagine what she would have to do in the near future to earn something from this marriage..

You think she's not already doing something now?

Silvio has proven that he can get a bit of "bunga bunga" whenever his heart (and by heart I mean the one between his legs) desires.

This one clearly makes the "extra" effort...

@ blu's news...

Not too entusiastic about those rumours. It seems like we're going to experiance the same path we did this summer. First there are a lot of promising rumours about our transfer market and then it degenerates into what we ended up with.

Only thing I'm hopeful about is getting Robinho out to finance the new midfielder and that CB
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 18 2012, 02:00 AM) *
Not too entusiastic about those rumours. It seems like we're going to experiance the same path we did this summer. First there are a lot of promising rumours about our transfer market and then it degenerates into what we ended up with.

+1. That's why I'm not too excited about all those rumurs just yet. Plus, Italian press specializing in speculation and Galliani knows how to use it.
Fillipo Simone
How did this exactly turn into a Berlusconi engagement thread?
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 17 2012, 11:13 PM) *
How did this exactly turn into a Berlusconi engagement thread?

Well you know the little lady will cost us a few million tongue.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 17 2012, 11:44 PM) *
@ x-off, no we shouldn't even think about selling Pato for that amount. I do like the idea of sending him on loan though. See how he does without our disaster doctors messing with him. If he does well there, he'll not only increase his price but he'll also give us some hope for the future. Him and Balotelli together would be my ideal combo.

There are other ways to get Balotelli. We need to be patient, see how this thing with City plays out.

Also, if we get Balo in then you can forget about Sneijder. Those are 2 huge contracts that we'd have to fork out, which once again, renders the sale of Silva useless. Because for 6m I'd rather have kept him then got Sneijder

For me, our top priorities should be removing some of the heavy baggage we have and making 2 or 3 really smart moves. Strootman and that defender we're being linked with look smart on paper, and if we somehow manage Sneijder on a free it would be genius.

I feel that atm, it's too soon for Balotelli to come here. But I conceed that this could be our only window of opportunity


Haha, I knew you would flip at the idea of selling Pato. For €15 million I would ship him personally to Brazil. The guy's broken beyond repair if you ask me.

By the way, Santos have made a new offer of €7 million for Robinho.

Link

Still not enough. Cough up €10 million and he's all yours.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 17 2012, 11:41 PM) *
Haha, I knew you would flip at the idea of selling Pato. For €15 million I would ship him personally to Brazil. The guy's broken beyond repair if you ask me.

By the way, Santos have made a new offer of €7 million for Robinho.

Link

Still not enough. Cough up €10 million and he's all yours.

15m when he has the potential to be worth 35m if he gets over these injuries? Of course I'd flip my lid!

However the loan is something I would like Galliani and Co to seriously consider. That being said, I wouldn't think Barbara would go for it wink.gif

If we get 10m for him we should call ourselves lucky and snatch it, but anything less and I'd rather keep him
Jack Bauer
Real paid €24m, City bought him for €42m, we got him for €18m and now we will be lucky to get €10m and he's only 28 y.o. How the mighty have fallen.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 17 2012, 05:41 PM) *
Haha, I knew you would flip at the idea of selling Pato. For €15 million I would ship him personally to Brazil. The guy's broken beyond repair if you ask me.

By the way, Santos have made a new offer of €7 million for Robinho.

Link

Still not enough. Cough up €10 million and he's all yours.

15m? You must be crazy. His market valuation is 28.5m Euros


I personally think selling him at this point is stupid, we might as well ride it out and see what happens. A loan move wouldn't be bad, but i'm opposed to selling him unless its 30m.

If he gets over his injuries and he will in time as his body finishes developing 24-25, we will have a quality striker.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Dec 18 2012, 01:50 AM) *
15m? You must be crazy. His market valuation is 28.5m Euros



I personally think selling him at this point is stupid, we might as well ride it out and see what happens. A loan move wouldn't be bad, but i'm opposed to selling him unless its 30m.

If he gets over his injuries and he will in time as his body finishes developing 24-25, we will have a quality striker.


Good luck with that.
Bluesummers
News:


-Official: Delio Rossi named Sampdoria coach.

-We are linked with Drogba. Juventus are also linked.


-We are linked with lewandowski. Juventus are also linked.


-We are linked with Matri


-We are linked with Pastore


-Inter are interested in signing Chamack from arsenal.


-Newyork redbulls have said that Henry will not be moving to Arsenal.


-Balotelli has refused to pay the 340,000 pound fine issued by City.


-Javier hernandez is drawing closer to an exit from manchester united as they prepare a move for robert lewandowski. Everyone is linked.



-David Villa could leave barcelona this january, everyone is linked.


-Chelsea and City have both enquired about Zlatan Ibrahimovic.


-Manchester City are interested in buying the 20th MLS franchise, new york for 100m euros.


-Huntelaar has rejected Inters approach for him.



-Arsenal have contacted milan about Stephen El Shaarawy. Wenger is said to have 75m euros available to him to spend during the transfer window. Among his targets are Zaha, Demba Ba and Diame.


-Santos make official bid of 7m. It is expected milan will reject it as they have set the minimum to 10m.


-Pato is said to be open to a move to corinthians. Corinthians have said that they are willing to negotiate a deal, whether its a loan + buy option, co-ownership or full transfer. They have also said they are willing include a clause that milan will get a 10 or 20% of transfer fee if he is resold at a later.



goal/mn/ms/fi/cm/tmw
Bluesummers


Berlu's new wife. Sigh...shes gonna cost us isn't she sleep.gif
Fillipo Simone
Of all the (very unlike rumors), I'd like Drogba. He'd be awesome with SES, a real upgrade to Pazzini.
X-Offender
I don't think we're linked to Drogba, just Juventus.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 17 2012, 07:14 PM) *
I don't think we're linked to Drogba, just Juventus.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/ac-...ba-camp-3697731


Not gonna happen imo, just the media bored. Shocking that its sky though because they usually dont make up sh*t.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Dec 18 2012, 03:58 AM) *
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/ac-...ba-camp-3697731


Not gonna happen imo, just the media bored. Shocking that its sky though because they usually dont make up sh*t.


I think he'll end up at Juve.
Bluesummers
Bluesummers
Bluesummers


Yepes the boss king.gif
Jack Sparrow
I did say he was very good. *High Fives kurt*
Bluesummers
I don't usually post non related milan news, but this is big!


Breaking news:


Sheikh Bin Abdulrahman Al-Thani, PSG's owner has declared that he intends to make PSG the best club in the world and will do what is necessary to achieve this.

The PSG owner has declared his interest in signing not only Cristiano Ronaldo but Jose Mourinho as well.


Al-Thani: "Ronaldo, Mourinho? Ofcourse, we are very interested in them. cristiano Ronaldo and Jose Mourinho are objectives for Paris Saint-Germain"


The media believes the owner has set aside over 100m euros to bring the duo to paris.


Canale Football


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This is just stupid, where is uefa and FFP. They cannot realistically afford this and then pay him his wages with 75% tax. They already have to pay ibra 60m a year.
Fillipo Simone
We'll see, that's on a wish, nothing more.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 18 2012, 05:42 AM) *
We'll see, that's on a wish, nothing more.

still if they actually go ahead with this its just stupid.

We can't even afford 10m euro players and we are considered a big club.


The seperation between PSG, Madrid and City between everyone else is way too big.
Fillipo Simone
It has to break at some point. And such a wasteful transfer would make that possible wink.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 18 2012, 02:51 PM) *
It has to break at some point. And such a wasteful transfer would make that possible wink.gif


Agreed, yet I beg to ask are they buffoons?

I am even more interested in how PSG will conform to FFP. With the transfers of TS and Zlatan added on top of Lavezzi, Pastore and the likes ... Let alone this dream transfer that Blue mentioned above ... None of the top clubs could do this, City cant, Madrid cant ... I don't know, and with the due date to conform already elapsing and some clubs are already on the receiving end of fines for not conforming (Malaga comes to mind, as they didn't receive participation money from UEFA) ... I find it disgusting really that we have to conform and they have an 'arrangement' of sorts.

The arrangement I refer to is directly correlated with Qatar Investment Authority's HUGE, no HUMONGOUS investments in Europe ... You can call it a bailout package in its own form to the weak economy of the greater EU. WC2022 is 'scheduled' to be in Qatar, but does it all make sense now? innocent.gif

And I don't think it stops at PSG and football, its on a grander scale of things that UEFA/FIFA are only a small participants of and are forced to turn a blind eye on them.

Unfair? I agree.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 17 2012, 10:44 PM) *
Plus, kurt, your idea sucks major @ss!

Your arguing with me for the sake of it is getting pretty tiresome now han. Yes, God forbid I want to bring in one of the better playmakers around who's actually going to be available for a good price. rolleyes.gif

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I did say he was very good. *High Fives kurt*

And look at who the tackle master in the league is. Is it one of our midfield players? No, it's that scrub from Serie B quality team Napoli.
han2503
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 18 2012, 03:25 PM) *
Your arguing with me for the sake of it is getting pretty tiresome now han. Yes, God forbid I want to bring in one of the better playmakers around who's actually going to be available for a good price. rolleyes.gif

What does arguing for the sake of arguing have to do with anything here.

I disagree with other as well but we discuss it.

I don't agree that we should give up 2 of our few good players to get someone like Sneijder. Who I personally admire a lot as a player, and I'm a fan personally. But he has issues with his team. Why should we jump the gun and give players up to get someone that, should we play our cards right, could come on a very good deal.

Keeping our current core of good players should be key. Making a few smart moves each window is also hugely important for us.

Also you have to consider the Balotelli aspect. Should there be a realistic chance to get both on good prices, I think it would have to come down to making a choice. I'd personally choose Sneijder in that event. But who knows how the window will play out. It still hasn't opened yet. If we have to cash in I'd rather we cash in on the baggage we have like Robinho, Flamini, Traore, Mesbah, etc. These are all players who many bottom/mid table clubs are interested. Selling off Boateng and Abate is just a terrible idea
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 18 2012, 04:35 PM) *
Also you have to consider the Balotelli aspect. Should there be a realistic chance to get both on good prices

Well, X-Off was talking hypothetically and mine was in a response to that. I don't think it's realistic or likely that we'd get all of those players anyways. But I think money from Abate+Boateng would be enough for Sneijder.
X-Offender
Apparently Pato has accepted Corinthians as his possible destination and we're very interested in closing the deal for €13 million + €2 million of bonuses.

Sources: Mediaset, TMW

Bye-bye Patinho?
Fillipo Simone
So we're gonna sell him for less then we payed initially?
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 18 2012, 06:23 PM) *
So we're gonna sell him for less then we payed initially?


Oh, how our butts hurt now when we could have easily sold him for €35 million in January whilst the majority in here were like "Oh, we shouldn't sell him, he'll be our next star yada-yada". Look at him now, being sold for peanuts to some Brazilian club. Big star he turned out to be. rolleyes.gif
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 18 2012, 12:18 PM) *
Apparently Pato has accepted Corinthians as his possible destination and we're very interested in closing the deal for €13 million + €2 million of bonuses.

Sources: Mediaset, TMW

Bye-bye Patinho?

I've read on a Milan group (fb) that the 15 mil is for 50% is this true?
X-Offender
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Dec 18 2012, 06:29 PM) *
I've read on a Milan group (fb) that the 15 mil is for 50% is this true?


Nope, I believe it's €13 million for his full purchase and €2 million of bonuses related to trophies, goals etc.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 18 2012, 12:31 PM) *
Nope, I believe it's €13 million for his full purchase and €2 million of bonuses related to trophies, goals etc.

cry.gif

I feel sick... puke.gif
kurtsimonw
15m? Shocking management from this club. For a team who seem obsessed with money, they've basically just burned 20m by not selling Pato at the right time.
X-Offender
Well, if we are willing to sell him for only €15 million to Corinthians, it means two things: 1) no other club is interested in him, 2) his injury crisis probably has no solution. Otherwise, I don't think we'd have given up on him so easily.

But yeah, not selling him for €35 million in January was probably the dumbest decision Berlusconi has ever taken since he took over this club 26 years ago. And I know Zed will tell me that I sound like a broken record again, but it's just that damn irritating!
han2503
If we do sell him for that kind of money then that's the biggest jump over the gun I've ever seen. At least loan him for the rest of the season. See how he does with another team and most importantly, different medical personnel.

It's just sheer idiocy to sell him now
X-Offender
Pato's burned, nothing can be done about him. He'll spend the rest of his career in Brazil, or maybe sign for some mid-level Spanish club like Betis. He'll be Ricardo Oliveira/Rafael Sóbis level at best.

...

Or maybe we won't sell him at all. biggrin.gif
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 18 2012, 04:50 PM) *
Pato's burned, nothing can be done about him. He'll spend the rest of his career in Brazil, or maybe sign for some mid-level Spanish club like Betis. He'll be Ricardo Oliveira/Rafael Sóbis level at best.

...

Or maybe we won't sell him at all. biggrin.gif

I don't believe that. Those players were always medciore at best. Pato has the potential and talent to be great. His body has given up on him right now, but if he can manage to recover from that he can still be great. Which is why giving up on him now is the stupidest decision ever. Whcih yes, makes me wish that we had cashed in last season if it's going to come down to this
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 18 2012, 04:50 PM) *
Pato's burned, nothing can be done about him. He'll spend the rest of his career in Brazil, or maybe sign for some mid-level Spanish club like Betis. He'll be Ricardo Oliveira/Rafael Sóbis level at best.

...

Or maybe we won't sell him at all. biggrin.gif

I don't believe that. Those players were always mediocre at best. Pato has the potential and talent to be great. His body has given up on him right now, but if he can manage to recover from that he can still be great. Which is why giving up on him now is the stupidest decision ever. Which yes, makes me wish that we had cashed in last season if it's going to come down to this
Jack Bauer
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Paris Saint-Germain’s Javier Pastore has surprisingly stated that he one day expects to play for Italian giants Milan.

While he recently rejected January links with both Milan sides, the Argentine has left the doors wide open for a Diavolo switch at some point in the future.

“Sooner or later I will play in the Rossoneri shirt,” he told Italian magazine Chi in an interview. “I’m sure of that.

“I have a splendid rapport with Vice-President Adriano Galliani and director general Ariedo Braida. I often dine with them, away from prying eyes, when I’m in Milan.

“I miss Italy and I love your country, while Milan are magic. First I want to win with PSG, but after that I will wear the Milan shirt.”

The creative midfielder, who left Palermo in August 2011 for Paris Saint-Germain at a cost of €43m, has had his form problems in the French capital this season.

http://www.football-italia.net/28594/pasto...re-milan-future
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 18 2012, 06:46 PM) *
If we do sell him for that kind of money then that's the biggest jump over the gun I've ever seen. At least loan him for the rest of the season. See how he does with another team and most importantly, different medical personnel.

It's just sheer idiocy to sell him now

+1

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 18 2012, 06:50 PM) *
Pato's burned, nothing can be done about him. He'll spend the rest of his career in Brazil, or maybe sign for some mid-level Spanish club like Betis. He'll be Ricardo Oliveira/Rafael Sóbis level at best

You're comparing a true world class striker with one-hit wonders who were hyped and nothing more. It's not just unfair, it's also wrong. I don't think we can foresee what will happen. It's easy to make such predictions now that everything seems so somber and grim.
Fillipo Simone
Good to know. For all I know, Pastore can turn out to be very good.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 18 2012, 07:27 PM) *
You're comparing a true world class striker with one-hit wonders who were hyped and nothing more. It's not just unfair, it's also wrong. I don't think we can foresee what will happen. It's easy to make such predictions now that everything seems so somber and grim.


I'm not comparing their talents, I'm comparing their paths. I just don't see Pato living up to his talent anymore. His body has given up on him. Stuff like that has made champions like Ronaldo spend half of his career on the sidelines or in van Basten's case, quit football.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 18 2012, 07:28 PM) *
Good to know. For all I know, Pastore can turn out to be very good.


I though you didn't rate him very highly a couple of years ago. Or maybe I'm just imagining stuff.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 18 2012, 07:47 PM) *
I though you didn't rate him very highly a couple of years ago. Or maybe I'm just imagining stuff.

People used to rocket him sky high; sure, he was decent back then and now he's pretty good. Still not exactly brilliant, but with our situation he'd do nothing but good.
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