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kurtsimonw
Still only 23 too.

The fact we are Milan is a saving grace for us right now. We can still attract some fairly decent players based on our name.

3/4 years down the line if we can keep El Sha, sign Balo and Pastore, that'd be a nice group of players up front. wub.gif
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 18 2012, 08:01 PM) *
3/4 years down the line if we can keep El Sha, sign Balo and Pastore, that'd be a nice group of players up front. wub.gif


Yeah, but I can't see how we might sign Pastore when PSG splashed around €40 million for him. Balotelli can happen because City would sell him even for €20 million I believe. The problem though are his wages. Unless he decides to take a substantial cut, then there's no point in signing him. And the fact that Mino Raiola is his agent doesn't help things either. The guy sees only $$$.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 18 2012, 08:12 PM) *
Yeah, but I can't see how we might sign Pastore when PSG splashed around €40 million for him. Balotelli can happen because City would sell him even for €20 million I believe. The problem though are his wages. Unless he decides to take a substantial cut, then there's no point in signing him. And the fact that Mino Raiola is his agent doesn't help things either. The guy sees only $$$.

Who knows. Maybe this summers sale of Thiago/Ibra has a hidden clause? And if PSG is serious concerning Ronaldo - well, Pastore could be marked as a surplus.
Zed.D
Imagine if we sign both Pastore and Verratti in the summer... we have Monto but when he's out we're screwed. I want that kid at Milan. he looked very promising once I saw him play.
Fillipo Simone
What tells you we'd sing Verratti in any way?
Zed.D
Just wishful thinking... but maybe we do, if he has to go back to Italy.
Fillipo Simone
Maybe, but didn't the kid state he's a Zebra?
X-Offender
We had the chance to sign Verratti and we didn't. That kid will become great. I doubt any PSG manager would want to lose him.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 18 2012, 07:12 PM) *
Yeah, but I can't see how we might sign Pastore when PSG splashed around €40 million for him. Balotelli can happen because City would sell him even for €20 million I believe. The problem though are his wages. Unless he decides to take a substantial cut, then there's no point in signing him. And the fact that Mino Raiola is his agent doesn't help things either. The guy sees only $$$.

Yeah Pastore's a dream. Only way is getting him slightly cheaper summer '15 when he has 1 year left on summer '26 when he's free, but that's a long way away.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 19 2012, 01:42 AM) *
Maybe, but didn't the kid state he's a Zebra?


I don't remember reading anything about that. did he?

But let's say he did, so what? those things don't matter much nowadays. Balotelli was a Milan fan but ended up at Inter. Chiellini was a Milan fan but ended up at Juve. there's many similar cases... if we really intend to sign him, we can do it. especially after selling them Ibra and Silva for what many of us believe was not enough money, I expect Baldy to have secured first options on one or two of PSG's players. maybe I'm expecting too much...
TriniKing_CE
KillerMax
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X-Offender
Chiriches' agent: "I know Milan are interested, they've seen the kid live many times, but I have never spoken with anyone of the Milan management".

Link

So much for the agreed loan deal. Or maybe he's just bluffing.
Bluesummers
News:


-We are linked with Kaka


-Lucio is on his way to sao paulo


-We are interested in buying De rossi. Media believes we'll bid cash + abate and acerbi for him.


-We are going after a dutch player, van basten has gave us a few names and we'll look to sign one of them in january.



-Pastore: "Sooner or later I will wear the Milan shirt. I'm certain of that."



-Leonardo told galliani pastore is not available. They are however open to the idea of abate move to psg.





-Italian media says that Pato and Robinho will both leave this window and 2 forewards will arrive.

-Chelsea have jumped in the race for Alexandre Pato. Abramovich wants him.

-Rumours in brazil suggest a paulinho pato swap could take place.



-Pato's image has been removed from the offical Ac milan store in Milan.


-The italian media believes that Berlusconi has given Galliani the green light in selling both Pato and Robinho.



tmw/cm/fi/mn



Bluesummers
Galliani:


"Signing new players? It depends from who will leave. We have many players, and we can remain like we are.

Robinho? I try to keep him, he loves us all, I understand that he wants to go back to Brazil, but he can wait another year".
Zed.D
QUOTE
-Pato's image has been removed from the offical Ac milan store in Milan.

Oh man... this is it I guess. can somebody check to see if it's true? I don't know where it's supposed to be...


I hope we sell him to another European club. it's just too soon to treat him like Adriano.
Zed.D
QUOTE
Milan wipe Pato off website
By Football Italia staff

Alexandre Pato’s future at Milan is more in the balance than ever, as he has mysteriously vanished from the club’s merchandising website.

The striker had been on the banner representing the e-store, but has now been replaced by Kevin-Prince Boateng, Massimo Ambrosini and Stephan El Shaarawy.

A similar vanishing act occurred just before Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva were sold to Paris Saint-Germain this summer.

It has been said that Milan Vice-President Adriano Galliani is flying out for talks with Corinthians over a €15m offer for Pato.

Bluesummers
Robinho and pato gone....cry.gif No more brazillians cry.gif
Bluesummers

I want my brazilliansss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
han2503
Can't believe it's going to come down to this.

I really feel like I can't identify with any players on this team anymore. What a mess we've turned into. And also, what was the point of turning down that offer from PSG last season if we're going to f@cking give up on him now for 15m FFS??!!
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Dec 19 2012, 01:57 AM) *
-We are interested in buying De rossi. Media believes we'll bid cash + abate and acerbi for him.

biggrin.gif Good one.
Rossoneri7
'Pato is the problem' .. As Silvio described it .. Not in the sense that the player is not good, as he has played alongside champions for the years he spent with us. He gained a lot of experience and will most likely tap into that at a less
demanding league? Or, could very well be that our wages can not accommodate for a player constantly rehabilitating? Or, his contract expiring in 2014 and the player has lost interest in renewing with the club?

Doesn't matter what, I believe Milan has done enough for the player; we sent him to several places, last of them the US and he still gets injured. Nothing more we can do, I hope he blossoms somewhere else and gets a chance to win. He has been a professional through and through.
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 19 2012, 02:24 AM) *
Can't believe it's going to come down to this.

I really feel like I can't identify with any players on this team anymore. What a mess we've turned into. And also, what was the point of turning down that offer from PSG last season if we're going to f@cking give up on him now for 15m FFS??!!

It makes sense if he refused to sign a contract extension (ends in 16 month) or if we discovered some another medical issue.

Also, in Brazilian press it was reported 15m for 50% of his rights IIUC. http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/fute...-afirma-tv.html
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 18 2012, 11:28 PM) *
'Pato is the problem' .. As Silvio described it .. Not in the sense that the player is not good, as he has played alongside champions for the years he spent with us. He gained a lot of experience and will most likely tap into that at a less
demanding league? Or, could very well be that our wages can not accommodate for a player constantly rehabilitating? Or, his contract expiring in 2014 and the player has lost interest in renewing with the club?

Doesn't matter what, I believe Milan has done enough for the player; we sent him to several places, last of them the US and he still gets injured. Nothing more we can do, I hope he blossoms somewhere else and gets a chance to win. He has been a professional through and through.

That's not the point.

WHY give up on him now when we could have cashed in and solved a few headaches last winter? It simply goes against everything we've done in the past to just give up on him

There are various courses this club could take. In terms of his contract, we can renew and spread his current wage out a bit more, I'm sure Pato has not lost interest in this considering he's still with Barbara. We can send him out on loan, see how he does there with different people in charge of his care. What specialist did we take him to? Some quack in the US who attributed all his problems on his balance or whatever the hell he said was wrong with him?

x-off is right in saying now that we should have cashed in when we had the chance. This is not cashing in. This is losing money and giving up on someone that the club had a hand in messing up in the first place.

As for the De Rossi rumours. Pure, 100% BS. We could never afford DDR, and he's not leaving Roma. We could have signed him on a free this summer if we had made the push, but DDR won't be leaving Roma, certainly not to join Milan.

As for the Abate rumour it's even more ridiculous that we'd sell him

I'm really feeling disheartened with these rumours right now. The players being mentioned as players going out are ones we should keep hold of while the real baggage in this team is seemingly not being addressed
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Dec 18 2012, 11:33 PM) *
It makes sense if he refused to sign a contract extension (ends in 16 month) or if we discovered some another medical issue.

Also, in Brazilian press it was reported 15m for 50% of his rights IIUC. http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/fute...-afirma-tv.html

I don't think he's refused. I just think that the club hasn't offered him one. Had they put a new contract on the table we would have most likely heard about it.

If it's 15 for 50% then it's slightly more acceptable and gives us the chance to get him back if he manages to recover his fitness with another team
Jack Bauer
He's still in the roster page: http://www.acmilan.com/it/teams/roster
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Dec 18 2012, 05:26 PM) *
biggrin.gif Good one.

I know tongue.gif

han2503
Also why would PSG want Abate?

Didn't they buy Van der Weil this summer and I know they also have other options in that position.
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 19 2012, 02:39 AM) *
I don't think he's refused. I just think that the club hasn't offered him one. Had they put a new contract on the table we would have most likely heard about it.

If it's 15 for 50% then it's slightly more acceptable and gives us the chance to get him back if he manages to recover his fitness with another team

I think we offered. They (our mangement) are not (that) stupid, nobody wants to lose him for free. But that just speculation. I'm just saying there might be a reason we don't know about yet. Also, his medical situation is very unclear right now.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Dec 18 2012, 11:43 PM) *
I think we offered. They (our mangement) are not (that) stupid, nobody wants to lose him for free. But that just sprculation. I'm just saying there might be a reason we don't know about yet.

Surely his agent or Galliani would have spoken about it at some point.

Who knows, the Pato case has turned into a huge mystery
Jack Bauer
It would seem that AC Milan are coming closer to the prospect of signing Atalanta’s Federico Peluso.

The defender had been linked with the Rossoneri as well as Juventus, but it appears that the Bianconeri are diverting their attention to 26-year-old Salvatore Bocchetti of Rubin Kazan.

28-year-old Peluso is having a standout season, and in the eyes of Massimiliano Allegri he would be a perfect fit in the Diavolo.

With the Rossoneri now said to be definitively leading the chase for Peluso, it is speculated that a deal would be more likely to happen in June, but they will surely not be wasting an opportunity for a January switch.

Peluso has been capped by the national team three times, scoring one goal.

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2012/12/ac...lanta-defender/
Bluesummers

@Milanello: Galliani will try to sign Armero on a loan deal + a buy-out clause. Valoti could be a part of the deal, according to Sky.

As a part of the Armero-negotiations, Galliani will also try to get an option to sign Benatia next summer.

Galliani is expected to meet with Corinthians on the 26th of December in São Paulo to negotiate about Pato.

@Milanello: Galliani will meet with Flamengo on Monday to negotiate about Robinho. Meanwhile, Raiola is trying to get Santos to offer €10m.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 19 2012, 01:28 AM) *
'Pato is the problem' .. As Silvio described it .. Not in the sense that the player is not good, as he has played alongside champions for the years he spent with us. He gained a lot of experience and will most likely tap into that at a less
demanding league? Or, could very well be that our wages can not accommodate for a player constantly rehabilitating? Or, his contract expiring in 2014 and the player has lost interest in renewing with the club?

Doesn't matter what, I believe Milan has done enough for the player; we sent him to several places, last of them the US and he still gets injured. Nothing more we can do, I hope he blossoms somewhere else and gets a chance to win. He has been a professional through and through.


Rightly put. He's injured all the time, doesn't seem to get any better, earns way too much given the circumstances, and has a contract expiring soon. We've tried everything, we've waited a long time for him to return, but nothing seems to change. I think selling him at this point would be the right thing to do.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 19 2012, 01:24 AM) *
Can't believe it's going to come down to this.

I really feel like I can't identify with any players on this team anymore. What a mess we've turned into. And also, what was the point of turning down that offer from PSG last season if we're going to f@cking give up on him now for 15m FFS??!!

Yeah, really. And to think just a year and a half we were on course winning the scudetto and solidifying our old/new identity. Now almost everything is gone. Ambrosini remains the only player I care about, Nocerino and Abate come in second but far behind. Heck, even Flamini is near - and you know what that means.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 19 2012, 01:39 AM) *
I don't think he's refused. I just think that the club hasn't offered him one. Had they put a new contract on the table we would have most likely heard about it.

If it's 15 for 50% then it's slightly more acceptable and gives us the chance to get him back if he manages to recover his fitness with another team

+1
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Dec 18 2012, 11:55 PM) *
I don't remember reading anything about that. did he?

But let's say he did, so what? those things don't matter much nowadays. Balotelli was a Milan fan but ended up at Inter. Chiellini was a Milan fan but ended up at Juve. there's many similar cases... if we really intend to sign him, we can do it. especially after selling them Ibra and Silva for what many of us believe was not enough money, I expect Baldy to have secured first options on one or two of PSG's players. maybe I'm expecting too much...

--yeah indeed. But like han said, only a madman would hand out such a talent. If things go right, he could spend another decade with PSG.

That said, I think the only person beside the board that believes in the PSG project with heart and soul is Leonardo. Maybe his playing days count. Because when I see all of them, Ancelotti, Silva, Ibra, Pastore, Menez...I think, gee, they sure like the money but their mind and heart is somewhere else.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Dec 18 2012, 08:34 PM) *

@Milanello: Galliani will meet with Flamengo on Monday to negotiate about Robinho. Meanwhile, Raiola is trying to get Santos to offer €10m.

I thought we were asking 15... wtf!
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Dec 19 2012, 03:13 AM) *
I thought we were asking 15... wtf!


No, it's €10 million. Santos have offered only €6 million so far.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 19 2012, 04:03 AM) *
--yeah indeed. But like han said, only a madman would hand out such a talent. If things go right, he could spend another decade with PSG.

That said, I think the only person beside the board that believes in the PSG project with heart and soul is Leonardo. Maybe his playing days count. Because when I see all of them, Ancelotti, Silva, Ibra, Pastore, Menez...I think, gee, they sure like the money but their mind and heart is somewhere else.


I remember Giggs giving an interview not a couple of years back, where he referred to the salary that players used to receive in the 1990s and early 2000s, and compared that to what they receive now ... Moral behind it is that players no longer focus on the shirt, but on the cars, houses, and all the flash that comes with their packages of our modern days in football.

Then again its the entertainment business, couldn't expect any less.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 19 2012, 08:31 AM) *
I remember Giggs giving an interview not a couple of years back, where he referred to the salary that players used to receive in the 1990s and early 2000s, and compared that to what they receive now ... Moral behind it is that players no longer focus on the shirt, but on the cars, houses, and all the flash that comes with their packages of our modern days in football.

Then again its the entertainment business, couldn't expect any less.

Yeah, and it's a process. Just compare the salary of, say Pazzini and Gerd Müller. It's shocking.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 19 2012, 05:28 AM) *
Yeah, really. And to think just a year and a half we were on course winning the scudetto and solidifying our old/new identity. Now almost everything is gone. Ambrosini remains the only player I care about, Nocerino and Abate come in second but far behind. Heck, even Flamini is near - and you know what that means.


Zed.D
BTW, I don't think Pato is injured. he was left out of the last few games because he's going to be sold in January. he can't be injured when his agent says he's 100% fit. no way a knock could've kept him out for this long. it all makes sense now...

Unless another act of heroism happens.
Bluesummers
News:

-Kevin strootman is our main january target, but we dont' value you him higher than 10m and are not willing to meet PSV's demands for him. We could sign Van Ginkel or another dutch player instead.


-Armero is looking like he will be coming here in January as negotations have taken off between udinese and milan. Right now the discussions seem to be going fine as a proposal for a loan + buy option for Armero with Valoti potentially going in the other direction in a similar deal has interested them.


(if we lose valoti for this guy i'm gonna be pissed. Kid is very good)



-We are not interested in lewandowski.


-We are interested in Peluso.


-Galliani has proposed a direct swap between paulinho and pato to corinthians.



-We are linked with Mohammed Sissoko, who plays for PSG.


GDS/mn/fi/cm/tmw
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Dec 19 2012, 03:10 PM) *
(if we lose valoti for this guy i'm gonna be pissed. Kid is very good)


This guy? Armero is one of the best fullbacks in Italy, not just some random dude. I couldn't care less about Valotti.
X-Offender
By the way, what's the point in a direct swap between Pato and Paulinho when we could just get the €15 million and use those money to purchase Strootman instead.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 19 2012, 07:31 AM) *
This guy? Armero is one of the best fullbacks in Italy, not just some random dude. I couldn't care less about Valotti.


He's good, but not that good. This kid is very talented, he'll be worth way more than Armero by the time hes 26.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 19 2012, 07:42 AM) *
By the way, what's the point in a direct swap between Pato and Paulinho when we could just get the €15 million and use those money to purchase Strootman instead.

because paulinho is much better than strootman
X-Offender
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Dec 19 2012, 03:43 PM) *
He's good, but not that good. This kid is very talented, he'll be worth way more than Armero by the time hes 26.


Yes, like most of our "promising" Primavera kids. I've seen Valotti, he's nothing special. I'd rather get Armero instead. The only youngster I'm really interested about is Mastour.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Dec 19 2012, 03:43 PM) *
because paulinho is much better than strootman


Only that Strootman is a DM, whilst Paulinho is more of a CM/AM. And much better? I highly doubt it.
William405
Don't they want 20mil for strootman?
X-Offender
QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 19 2012, 05:45 PM) *
Don't they want 20mil for strootman?


Mediaset says 9-10 million should be enough, but we want to get him for even less. Typical Galliani. rolleyes.gif
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