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KillerMax
It can work and it can work well if we can keep posession and play as one fluid team. And also Good defenders. Let's call Silva back from his loan to PSG. I'm sure he is ready to come back to play with the big boys now... rolleyes.gif
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2012, 03:29 PM) *
Sure if we consider a DM as your stereotypical DM in a computer simulation. In real life I have found Montolivo to be a clumsy judge of a tackle, De Jong to be oft times rash and out of position, and Strootman to get a bit overrun.

Is there a resolution for this? Nope. Obviously we don't have the quality to make a tactically bullet proof squad.

That's why I would choose Strootman as anchor and not De Jong. De Jong on the other hand is a great ball-winner who don't have to stick to one certain position like the anchor does. And with two defensively strong midfielders, there's no problem with Montolivo's defensive capabilities. It would when he's the anchor, or when there's only one midfielder who's strong defensively. Montolivo can focus more on playmaking and attacking when both Strootman and De Jong plays rather than Strootman and Nocerino. The latter being defensively very weak, and also in holding possession. It will end up Montolivo acting as the 2nd most defensive midfielder.
Fillipo Simone
We're speaking as if we know Strootman at all. Other then Chu, has anyone watched him play for PSV?
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 19 2012, 07:25 PM) *
We're speaking as if we know Strootman at all. Other then Chu, has anyone watched him play for PSV?


Do youtube clips count?
X-Offender
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 19 2012, 03:29 PM) *
Sure if we consider a DM as your stereotypical DM in a computer simulation. In real life I have found Montolivo to be a clumsy judge of a tackle, De Jong to be oft times rash and out of position, and Strootman to get a bit overrun.

Is there a resolution for this? Nope. Obviously we don't have the quality to make a tactically bullet proof squad.


Dude, I didn't even mention the word DM. I just said that a midfield consisting of De Jong, Strootman and Montolivo is strong defensively. Actually, it's too strong. You need a box-to-box mid in there who can attack the space, cover a lot of ground and help in the defensive duties. Nocerino does that job better than De Jong IMO, that's why my vote goes for him. De Jong is only good at winning balls and making simple passes.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 19 2012, 06:50 PM) *
Do youtube clips count?

Nah, I need the real thing wink.gif
Bluesummers


My friend's brother finally shows up in the game (fm 2013).

Can't wait for him to debut for the first team biggrin.gif


PS: He's Milan's best rated youth player wink.gif They gave him a better rating than cristante and maldini 96.gif
TriniKing_CE
Cool... cool.gif
d'Arc.LP
Rumor is that Milan is preparing a €7.3m bid for Ashley Cole.
Fillipo Simone
He'd be terrific. Best LB since the days of Serginho and Maldini.
X-Offender
But he's 31. Why not go for Criscito instead?
X-Offender
Oh, and there are also rumors about us wanting to get Merkel back.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 21 2012, 11:45 PM) *
But he's 31. Why not go for Criscito instead?

Because he's cheaper and better? I don't mind age any more.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 21 2012, 11:51 PM) *
Because he's cheaper and better? I don't mind age any more.


I don't know about cheaper, but yeah, Cole is better.
d'Arc.LP
Mediaset reports that Silvio Berlusconi recently called Gattuso again to convince him to become a part of Milan's coaching staff.

Mediaset also reports that Silvio Berlusconi also called Nesta to convince him to become a part of Milan's coaching staff.

Guardiola is likely to take Milan's coaching job, but he wants to personally meet Berlusconi for discussing the goals and strategies [GdS]
Jack Sparrow
Finally. A new philosophy. I'm afraid Allegri is not the person to build a Milan v4.
Zed.D
A definite YES to Cole, though I can't see him coming. Turkish or Chinese teams can offer better contracts to these players than Il club piu titolato al mondo. dry.gif
Bluesummers
nowww let me tell you somethin' there son, hwwwweee aint gon get no ashleeyyy cole now son, hweee aint got there them fundsss, hwee as damnnn broke as a redneck after a custody battle over a huntin' dooggg
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 22 2012, 07:33 AM) *
Finally. A new philosophy. I'm afraid Allegri is not the person to build a Milan v4.

Noowww sonn, tell me hwwwat gave you thaaat silly ideeaaa, right thereee. Hwee can't build notin' with them there handicappps.
X-Offender
Are you OK, Blue?
acid911
No alarms, X-Off, our current state of affairs sometimes does this to people. biggrin.gif sad.gif Blue is 100%, I'm sure!
d'Arc.LP
Sport Mediaset links Marco Van Basten with the Milan bench if Allegri is sacked.
han2503
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Oct 21 2012, 09:15 PM) *
Rumor is that Milan is preparing a €7.3m bid for Ashley Cole.

Cole is the best LB around right now, I think he'll renew with Chelsea, can't see him coming to Italy tbh

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 21 2012, 09:45 PM) *
But he's 31. Why not go for Criscito instead?

Cole is miles better.

I'd only take Criscito if he's cheaper

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 21 2012, 09:46 PM) *
Oh, and there are also rumors about us wanting to get Merkel back.

This is getting beyond ridiculous now. We shouldn't have given him to Genoa in the first place!!

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Oct 22 2012, 07:59 PM) *
Sport Mediaset links Marco Van Basten with the Milan bench if Allegri is sacked.

Anything better than the dud we have now
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 23 2012, 01:05 AM) *
This is getting beyond ridiculous now. We shouldn't have given him to Genoa in the first place!!

Nothing ridiculous about it, once you get a hang of how things are done in Italy. wink.gif mellow.gif It was all part of the plan from the very start. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if we paid good money to get him back. And then seeing Galliani (if he is here by then) say that we brought in another champion. The only question that remains is when.
CHU-LIP
Criscito would cost double money, but is much younger. Cole being 31? He is not far away from getting worse with the days, like Zambrotta maybe. You are lucky when and if Cole will be good for three seasons, and that is pushing it. It's likely two. Even for double money, it's better spent on Criscito than on Cole. I rather go with someone who not may become mediocre in two years time.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 22 2012, 09:05 PM) *
Cole is the best LB around right now, I think he'll renew with Chelsea, can't see him coming to Italy tbh

I can see him leaving. He seems pretty pissed off with the FA for how the dismissed everything he said about the Terry case.

Whether he'd come here is another thing, hopefully.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 23 2012, 03:36 AM) *
I can see him leaving. He seems pretty pissed off with the FA for how the dismissed everything he said about the Terry case.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.
d'Arc.LP
It seams that Nesta could come back to Milan (as a player) for 3 months when they have the holidays in their leauge. Something like Beckham deal.
KillerMax
Didn't he already deny that?
Fillipo Simone
Guys, I've noticed that we have become a bit laid-back in recent updates. Please do mind adding or mentioning sources to information and rumors.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Oct 23 2012, 11:25 AM) *
It seams that Nesta could come back to Milan (as a player) for 3 months when they have the holidays in their leauge. Something like Beckham deal.


Nesta already stated that he wont come back to Milan on a 'Beckham deal'. I personally wouldn't want him back.
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 23 2012, 10:40 AM) *
Guys, I've noticed that we have become a bit laid-back in recent updates. Please do mind adding or mentioning sources to information and rumors.


source of my last post. http://infokosova.net/sport/661-plani-berl...-allegri-n.html
Fillipo Simone
Thanks smile.gif
X-Offender
Galliani: "Allegri will stay till the end of the season".

Link

I surrender...
X-Offender
Anyway, the fact that we're so desperate to keep Allegri till the end of the season makes me believe that something big will happen next year. The Guardiola and Arab/Russian rumors seem even more believable at this point.
kurtsimonw
Agreed. If we were to bring in a new coach now and then someone bought the club, they may have someone else in mind, so would result in another change.
X-Offender
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 25 2012, 10:19 PM) *
Agreed. If we were to bring in a new coach now and then someone bought the club, they may have someone else in mind, so would result in another change.


Well, I don't think we're going to sell the whole club, just part of the ownership, like 25% of the shares. I think the main reason why Allegri has not been fired yet is that we want to sign Guardiola at all cost for next season. Anyone who would come right now instead of Allegri would have to accept to leave at the end of the season, and let's be honest, there aren't many good coaches who would agree to that.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 26 2012, 12:00 AM) *
Well, I don't think we're going to sell the whole club, just part of the ownership, like 25% of the shares. I think the main reason why Allegri has not been fired yet is that we want to sign Guardiola at all cost for next season. Anyone who would come right now instead of Allegri would have to accept to leave at the end of the season, and let's be honest, there aren't many good coaches who would agree to that.

Yep, agreed. But anyway, I think we need a short term coach to achieve a psychological break and try saving this season. Because, I doubt Guardiola is all fired up for playing Europa League next season.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 25 2012, 10:13 PM) *
Yep, agreed. But anyway, I think we need a short term coach to achieve a psychological break and try saving this season. Because, I doubt Guardiola is all fired up for playing Europa League next season.

More like, no Europe at this point.

There are interim-coach options that we could make use of, anyone at this point is better than sticking with Allegri.

Letting him stay will just continue to plummet us into the abyss. Allegri cannot save this situation.
Zed.D
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 25 2012, 10:39 PM) *
Galliani: "Allegri will stay till the end of the season".

Link

I surrender...


I don't believe that, honestly.
han2503
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 26 2012, 10:09 AM) *
I don't believe that, honestly.

You cannot believe a word Galliani says, in fact, he usually does the opposite of what he says.

If we lose the next few games it won't even be a choice for Galliani, he'll be forced into it.
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 26 2012, 01:35 PM) *
You cannot believe a word Galliani says, in fact, he usually does the opposite of what he says.

If we lose the next few games it won't even be a choice for Galliani, he'll be forced into it.


I think Berlusconi has left everything to Galliani for this season. He knows he's in no position to give orders after literally destroying our team this summer.
Fillipo Simone
Maybe this is partly the a reason for the his absence?

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Former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi sentenced to four years in jail for tax fraud

Former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has been sentenced to 4 years in jail following a tax fraud trial.

An Italian court delivered verdicts today against the former Prime Minister and others in a six-year-old tax fraud trial.

Prosecutors in the case had demanded that Berlusconi be given a sentence of 3 years and eight months, along with a sentence for Fedele Confalonieri - the chairman of his Mediaset conglomerate - of three years and four months.

Berlusconi stepped down in November of last year, after Italy came under increasing financial pressure to deal with its extraordinarily high debt.

Berlusconi was continually criticised inside and outside of Italy for his failure to come up with persuasive financial reforms.

The allegations in the case related to a scheme to purchase rights to broadcast US movies on Berlusconi's private television networks through a series of offshore companies and had falsely declared the payments to avoid taxes.

The prosecutors also alleged that they inflated prices for the TV rights of some 3,000 films as they relicensed them internally to Berlusconi's networks, pocketing the difference amounting to around €250 million.

Other charges of false accounting and false statements in financial reports were thrown out because the statute of limitations expired.

Prosecutors also demanded six years for Paolo Del Bue, a founder of the private Swiss bank Arner, who is accused of money laundering, and three years and eight months for Hollywood producer Frank Agrama.

The trial began in July 2006, but was put on hold by a now-defunct immunity law that shielded the Berlusconi from prosecution while he was premier until it was watered down by the constitutional court. The trial also faced delays as Berlusconi cited conflicts with his schedule as premier.

Berlusconi has been tried numerous times for connected to his business affairs.

He has always denied wrongdoing and alleged that the cases were politically motivated. In each case to date, he has been cleared or seen the statute of limitations expire.

The statute of limitations in this case is set to expire sometime next year. In Italy, cases must pass two levels of appeal before the verdicts are final.

Berlusconi is also on trial in Milan on charges of paying for sex with an under-age teenager and trying to cover it up.

It is believed that Mr Berlusconi will appeal against the ruling.


Source
han2503
He'll weasel his way out of it like every other time
Rossoneri7
This is the first judiciary level. The case still has to be passed onto the 2nd and 3rd ruling. Berlusconi will appeal this and probably be forced to pay a fine for the tax evation. But no jail time IMO.
d'Arc.LP
Sky and Gazetta are convinced that Robinho will be sold in January as Milan have received good offers for him
han2503
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Oct 29 2012, 03:15 PM) *
Sky and Gazetta are convinced that Robinho will be sold in January as Milan have received good offers for him

At this point we should take it if it's good and replace him with a creative player, because we are absolutely desperate for someone with some vision who can provide a great final ball
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2012, 05:29 PM) *
At this point we should take it if it's good and replace him with a creative player, because we are absolutely desperate for someone with some vision who can provide a great final ball

And Robinho at this point has absolutely nothing to offer.
X-Offender
I say sell both Robinho and Boateng and sign a top notch trequartista/winger, someone with vision and creativity.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 29 2012, 08:38 PM) *
I say sell both Robinho and Boateng and sign a top notch trequartista/winger, someone with vision and creativity.

No, I wouldn't sell Boateng. He's a great player imo who's being used incorrectly by the idiot coaching this team

Imagine a diamond midfield like this

DJ
Boateng--Monto
AM


A top class AM would really make that a top notch midfield for us
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